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Fulcanelli Little Laguz Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Less than three
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#19776: May 19th 2013 at 7:13:13 AM

@JHM - Thanks for the advice, I'm probably thinking a little too much about how to describe the scene when I should just write the way the character would experience it in that situation.

Now for me, taking a long "Noooooo" seriously is pretty difficult. I'll often put myself in a situation though where I would want either a long "No" or someone saying a name in the vein. I usually just have to think of a way around it.

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Masterofchaos Since: Dec, 2010
#19777: May 19th 2013 at 8:03:03 AM

It all depends on if people do it well.

MajorTom Since: Dec, 2009
#19778: May 19th 2013 at 8:34:13 AM

Taking a poll here: can you take Big "NO!" - or more specifically, the elongated "Nooooooooo" variant of it - seriously?

Yes. I can take it seriously if the context is good. For example the infamous no in Revenge of the Sith. While very memetic, it is able to be taken seriously given context.

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19779: May 19th 2013 at 12:40:22 PM

How do I say "this person who did eye readings claimed that she could not "read" my eyes because they were too dark, which supports the idea that it's mostly white people going to these conventions because if there were more non-white people, a much higher proportion of them would have very dark eyes like mine, and therefore she would lose a lot of business" for an academic paper?

KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#19780: May 19th 2013 at 12:53:44 PM

[up]Well, that's eas...

Oh. For an academic paper. Damn. Something like "the eye reader's inability to read 'dark' — i.e. non-Caucasian — eyes suggested she expects and receives very little non-Caucasian business at this convention."

ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19781: May 19th 2013 at 12:56:54 PM

I am Caucasian though. Which is why this is hard.

KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#19782: May 19th 2013 at 1:08:14 PM

[up]Huh. You're right, that does complicate matters. Can't think of anything off the top of my head...

TeraChimera Since: Oct, 2010
#19783: May 19th 2013 at 3:01:04 PM

"The eye reader claimed to be unable to read 'dark' eyes, which are rare — though not unheard of — in Caucasians, while they are more common in non-Caucasian races. This suggests that the people attending eye-reading conventions are mostly Caucasian; otherwise, the eye reader would either be out of business or would have learned to read dark eyes already."

You'll need some support for dark eyes being non-Caucasian, though.

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#19784: May 19th 2013 at 4:01:59 PM

What's meant by dark eyes in this context?

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#19785: May 19th 2013 at 5:14:34 PM

Huuum.. I was thinking... Is there a thing such a mystery\detective story set in a Standart Fantasy Setting\JRPG setting? Just wondering.

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Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#19786: May 19th 2013 at 5:19:36 PM

There was a heist novel done in fantasy by I want to say Sanderson IIRC

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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19787: May 19th 2013 at 5:25:12 PM

Well iriscope is a method by which you "read" the lines/veins/whatever in the iris to tell stuff about the person. It's a newagey pseudomedicine thing. So blue eyes, no problem. Green? sure. Hazel? yep. Brown? Well, light brown would work, but the almost-black color that I have would need "special equipment" that she didn't bring to the fair I was researching. This color isn't very common for caucasians but is very common for people with dark complexions.

edited 19th May '13 5:28:05 PM by ohsointocats

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#19788: May 19th 2013 at 5:31:02 PM

I know plenty of white people with dark brown eyes more so than I know with blue or green. Has been like that my entire life, I'm one of few*

white people I've ever meet with blue eyes so it might just be that area or that person's area.

edited 19th May '13 5:32:44 PM by Vyctorian

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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19789: May 19th 2013 at 5:35:17 PM

How dark? Like this? There are a lot of varieties of brown eyes, more than people give credit for.

Also keep in mind that this fair was in Holland. From what I can tell very dark eyes/pale skin is more of an eastern European thing, and I bet in the US a lot of it comes from mixing with native populations/etc. I know that this "oh I can't read your very dark brown eyes" would not fly at an American fair.

edited 19th May '13 5:38:37 PM by ohsointocats

Vyctorian ◥▶◀◤ from Domhain Sceal Since: Mar, 2011
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#19790: May 19th 2013 at 5:38:40 PM

The Holland thing might explain it, and yes I'd say I've seen more eyes like that than blue if not blue definitely green. I can count the number of green eyed people I remember meeting on one hand, but I'm in America not Holland.

edited 19th May '13 5:39:07 PM by Vyctorian

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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19791: May 19th 2013 at 5:43:04 PM

I don't really pay much attention to eye color but I did notice that most white brown-eyed people tend to be like this or this.

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#19792: May 19th 2013 at 7:55:43 PM

I may have accidentally dropped a plot-line into my story a book early*

edited 19th May '13 8:04:41 PM by Vyctorian

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Fulcanelli Little Laguz Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Less than three
Little Laguz
#19793: May 19th 2013 at 9:12:39 PM

Barely got any actual work done today, I mostly just tried to rethink a few scenes and elements.

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Collen the cutest lizard from it is a mystery Since: Dec, 2010
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#19794: May 20th 2013 at 4:28:25 AM

Re: Big "NO!". I prefer Little "No", to be honest. The more despair, the better. Big "NO!" seems to hammy to be taken very seriously.

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ohsointocats from The Sand Wastes Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
#19795: May 20th 2013 at 5:12:12 AM

I can take a NO! seriously but not a Noooooooooooooooo!.

Hermiethefrog Since: Jan, 2001
#19796: May 20th 2013 at 7:49:39 AM

I realized I gave a character of mine who's a doctor the initials MD.

Didn't do that on purpose but HOLY FUCK THAT IS SO PERFECT.

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#19797: May 20th 2013 at 9:17:36 AM

Thought: Is Romeo and Juliet a romance story and a tragedy, or both?

KillerClowns Since: Jan, 2001
#19798: May 20th 2013 at 9:27:34 AM

[up]...I honestly don't follow what you're trying to say there. Did you perhaps mistype something?

Masterofchaos Since: Dec, 2010
#19799: May 20th 2013 at 9:33:37 AM

I probably have to rewrite this sequel because a major plot line for the third book got dropped in way too early and is becoming the main focus of the book. |D

[up][up]

Don't know what you're trying to say either.

edited 20th May '13 9:34:16 AM by Masterofchaos

chihuahua0 Since: Jul, 2010
#19800: May 20th 2013 at 9:39:22 AM

[up] I'm asking something. According to the RWA, a romance novel must have a Happily Ever After, but it sounds too narrow. Does that mean Romeo and Juliet is just a tragedy, or is it a romance too?

edited 20th May '13 9:40:13 AM by chihuahua0


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