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He was in the Ryloth arc of Clone Wars I believe. I think the Twi'Leks in that arc had French accents which is what Hera slips into when she gets mad at him.

edited 10th Dec '16 3:40:25 PM by Kostya

Twi'leks in TCW were based on the French resistance during WWII, so that's why they have that accent.

Cham Syndulla was in the third episode of the Ryloth Trilogy (which was also Mace Windu's focus episode), and Supply Lines, which was the precursor to that arc. It's the episode with Jedi Master Ima-Gun Di.

Ah, Master Di.

The hero the Galaxy deserved.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

So not only do we have Kanan and Ezra in the Rebels; we're also going to see them meet Obi-Wan? Luke's quite the last hope when there are two other Jedi working for the Rebels.

edited 11th Dec '16 8:26:59 AM by Kostya

One could conveivable spin it to mean that Kanan and Ezra have zero chance against Vader and the Emperor, and everyone knows it. That would make Luke the last hope given that he's the only one who might be strong enough to beat them. But that's pretty retcon-y, and definitely not what the original movies intended.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

Isn't it, though? Yoda was still alive, and the Skywalkers were still considered their only hope. Just because there are other Force-sensitives carrying on the legacy of the Jedi doesn't mean they are capable of defeating a Sith.

And people keep picking on Kanan and Ezra's presence as if there weren't a bunch of other Jedi running around in the old EU, either.

It was also a problem with the Old EU but at least none of the stories I read had them actively working with the Rebels.

I don't dislike the idea that Kanan and Ezra exist. I'm more confused by where their story is heading. If Rebels doesn't end with them out of commission in some way it could introduce problems.

I suppose but why are Luke and Leia better equipped to fight Vader? They have even less training than Kanan and Ezra. I guess it could be a raw power thing but I never got the sense that Luke was overwhelmingly strong in the Force.

edited 11th Dec '16 8:59:45 AM by Kostya

I was thinking it was likely a raw power thing. Luke and Leia are the children of the Chosen One, after all. But there's also the possibility that the family connection makes Luke better equipped to reach Vader, though that's pretty recon-y too. It's pretty clear that Yoda, at least (and possibly Obi Wan as well) considers Vader beyond redemption and expects Luke to kill him. Maybe they're banking on the hope that Vader would go easy on his children, rather than just murder the hell out of them like he has every other Jedi?

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

That's possible but for a different reason. Instead of showing mercy Yoda may have expected Vader to let his guard down while trying to tempt Luke to the Dark Side. That could have provided him with an opening to finish him off despite the skill and power difference.

I think Luke is supposed to be extremely strong in the Force. I mean, Vader says as much does he not?

I always figured that was potential strength. The stuff he does in the movies isn't terribly impressive.

That's mostly the problem of Sequel Escalation. Yoda lifting an X-Wing out of the swamp was presented as a huge deal in the original trilogy. Fast forward a few decades, and you have stuff like The Force Unleashed, where they're pulling Star Destroys out of orbit. It's definitely noted a few times that Luke is strong in the Force, but it's not entirely clear whether that means "strong enough to have been a jedi" or "strong even in comparison to the jedi".

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

This is from EW's article on a list of things to expect from Rogue One following the premiere of the movie yesterday.

So I'm going to guess that the ship resembling The Ghost in Rogue One is most definitely the Ghost, and there might be other things in the movie that imply the presence of the Ghost crew. Maybe a vocal cameo, perhaps?

edited 11th Dec '16 1:18:07 PM by higherbrainpattern

Maybe they'll talk about Hera or something. She's the head of Phoenix Squadron.

Or, more simply, just namedropping Phoenix Squadron. And maybe Lothal.

Except, no, that never happened. It was shot out of orbit and he guided the crash so that it didn't run him over. Still pretty fucking OP, but not nearly to the extent people exaggerate. If Starkiller really was that strong he could have just ripped Sheev in half and the Death Star along with him.

edited 11th Dec '16 11:42:44 PM by TheAirman

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Doesn't change my point. Luke is supposed to be strong in the Force. The fact that he doesn't do anything especially impressive in the original trilogy isn't because he's weak, it's because EU stuff has gotten way more over the top than what we see in the original trilogy.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

I think Luke being the chosen one because he is strong diminishes the story a tad? Luke being the chosen one because of the importance of family is far more inkeeping with the themes of the saga.

Also, Luke isn't the Chosen One. That's still Anakin. He just took a path no one was expecting him to.

I dunno, I always though the main movies' force wielding was a bit understated. Yoda made pulling a whole ship out of a swamp look absolutely trivial.

The Clone Wars was really mixed in this regard, sometimes having characters that could parkour for hours and leap three stories, but sometimes making them do diving catches onto concrete for a small glass vial.

Meanwhile Kylo Ren could stop a blaster bolt with the Force...

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

Vader stopped multiple blaster bolts with the Force in Empire.

Well, to be fair, Vader "stopped" them by letting Han shot his hand and just tanking the damage, while Kylo actually froze a blaster bolt in mid-air for a few minutes, then let it continue on a while later, which is definitely a different sort of thing.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

Yeh, Vader just tanked them with a couple of pieces of metal in his hand.

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Though, this is the same blaster that in the previous film had blasted huge holes in concrete with explosions big enough to kill or incapacitate armored stormtroopers who were standing near the explosions.

Vader should have been gibbed if he weren't using the Force. I suppose those were Force moves.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you

RIP night sisters. :(

Don't worry Ezra joining the dark side and killing Kanan in the process will fix this little problem. /wishful thinking

Not to mention, apparently, Obi-wan hasn't been "Obi-wan" since before Luke was born. It would have been cooler to have "Ben" be introduced and then Obi-wan revealed.

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you