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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#26: Mar 24th 2011 at 7:13:37 AM

Hmm, we also have Not-So-Safe Harbor, a subtrope of Wretched Hive.

Is there really much to say about a Port Town that isn't a Wretched Hive? Just about any Port Town that is more interesting than "Town which happens to have a Port" is likely to be interesting because of its Wretched Hive elements.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#27: Mar 24th 2011 at 7:16:15 AM

There's a trade aspect of it. And the gateway to adventure part that isn't really included in Wretched Hive.

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suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#28: Mar 24th 2011 at 7:25:34 AM

Actually, the more I think about it (and the more heretofore-unknown-to-me tropes like Wretched Hive that I see), I think Port Town might actually make sense as a video-game-only trope, though the description likely needs tweaking to something like "Launchpad for sea, boat, and water-based game tropes, and Gateway To Adventure."

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MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#29: Mar 24th 2011 at 7:29:45 AM

Gateway To Adventure sounds good as the actual trope name since that's pretty much what the Port Town is in video games. I wonder if we should send this one over to YKTTW.

edited 24th Mar '11 7:31:35 AM by MC42

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#30: Mar 24th 2011 at 10:47:25 AM

There's not really anything in this trope's definition that ties it to Wretched Hive, so I don't know how that's coming up. The significance of the Port Town is that it acts as a jumping-off point, a form of The Threshold if you will. It represents the end of the first leg of your journey. You're not just walking from Cornelia to the Chaos Shrine anymore—you are officially traversing the whole world.

In video games, the additional significance is typically that it fixes a Broken Bridge and makes a very large new area—like a whole new continent—accessible.

Rhymes with "Protracted."
MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#31: Mar 24th 2011 at 10:52:59 AM

Threshold City, in other words.

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troacctid "µ." from California Since: Apr, 2010
#32: Mar 24th 2011 at 10:58:00 AM

[up] Right, but specifically, with boats (or whatever boat substitute is appropriate for the setting).

Rhymes with "Protracted."
shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#33: Mar 24th 2011 at 11:10:25 AM

And it often works the same way in other media. It's the point where the characters really start exploring their world and the plot becomes less linear.

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MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#34: Mar 24th 2011 at 11:14:44 AM

Or galaxy, such as in Star Wars, with Mos Eisley being the Port Town.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#35: Mar 24th 2011 at 11:15:26 AM

Yep. It's the place that opens up the world.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
MC42 Tempus Omnia Iudicat Since: Oct, 2010
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#36: Mar 24th 2011 at 11:25:14 AM

Though this begs the question, if the Port Town is defined as the place that opens the world, does it have to even be a town? A teleporter in the middle of nowhere or an enemy fortress could have the same narrative significance.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#37: Mar 24th 2011 at 11:29:47 AM

I think those would really be a supertrope because it's so common that this is a port that I think it makes sense for those instances to be their own trope. I think it's because of the location's natural link with transportation making the connection easier.

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Raso Cure Candy Since: Jul, 2009
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#38: Mar 24th 2011 at 12:12:46 PM

Well I dont think that a town which frees up the game for exploration can be called a port town because not all of them are Dragon Quest VIII's Port Town is just a ferry. The real boat does free you up for exploration but that isnt till much later. Final Fantasy VIII it could be many places really Timber the train town, the garden and a few other places too (the real port town could be this too) It really depends on how you define "freedom" in a game (RP Gs most of all)

Overlap with Hub Town?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#39: Mar 24th 2011 at 12:33:44 PM

Yes, there are games that don't use this trope. If those were to be added they're bad examples. What's the point?

Hub Town isn't a trope so I have no idea if it overlaps or not.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#41: Mar 24th 2011 at 1:37:45 PM

Ah, no overlap with The Hub. That's a completely separate concept that has nothing to do with what we're talking about. They aren't even used in the same sort of games when they're used in games.

edited 24th Mar '11 1:38:38 PM by shimaspawn

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Zeta Since: Jan, 2001
#42: Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:19:06 PM

IMOH, make a new article called Threshold To Adventure (the location where the first thirdish part of the story ends and the world opens up) and make the Port Town article a subtrope of it.

edited 2nd Aug '11 11:19:19 PM by Zeta

Elle Since: Jan, 2001
#43: Aug 3rd 2011 at 1:12:41 PM

Bump. Seeing the thread about Capital City reminded me of this.

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