Ultimate Spider-Man TV series.

I think some parts of USM are pretty good, but it's still pretty mediocre, especially with Spectacular to compare it to. (Though I know why that was cancelled.) I think Assemble is meh. I've not seen Agents of SMASH.

I really don't understand why they didn't just keep going with EMH and maybe even bring Wolverine And The X Men back, and continue building that universe. It was DCAU quality in my opinion. Was there any particular reason, or was it just not enough like the MCU?

And yet I still find them much more watchable than most of the shows on Nick and CN.

That's pretty much the reason. Definitely the case with Avengers Assemble. To be honest, it's a smart business move. Are most audience members today going to be more familiar with the 60+ years of comic history (via what A:EMH was trying to utilize), or the financially-success and incredibly well-known Marvel films of the past several years? The latter obviously, as comics barely have an impact compared to movies or television shows.

It ain't fair, but I'm not going to worry about it.

edited 26th Aug '14 4:16:20 PM by TheLemsterPju

That's actually a smart move financially speaking? Crazy.

About Donald Glover voicing Miles Morales:

I guess it's safe to say that Donald Glover has officially become the "Ultimate Promoted Fanboy".

edited 26th Aug '14 4:43:34 PM by TargetmasterJoe

I'm very happy for Donald. He's finally getting the role he's been asking for the last few years.

B:TAS didn't need to follow the cue of the Burton and Schumacher Batman movies to succeed for years and spawn its own successful universe. Really, that kind of synergy is more often than not an illusion. The movies will never follow on anything the cartoons trying to follow on them ever bring out, so in that relationship, the cartoons are only the poor stepsister anyway.

I love Donald Glover, but I'm not sure his voice is convincing for a 13 year old. But thats okay cuz Miles is freaking on TV and I'm stoaked for that.

Now I can one day hope for a Spider-Men franchise where Peter and Miles are a crime fighting duo like that imaginespot Miles had in the comics.

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edited 9th Sep '14 3:26:00 PM by TheLemsterPju

Yes, it is a joke. In the episode, Deadpool parodies the "no death" censorship by saying he "unalives" people.

Yeah, you're making me all nostalgic for the numerous times Spider-Man the Animated Series interupted the action for a cartoony cutaway. Look, if you don't want people calling the show utter crap, you also shouldn't go to the opposite extreme and pretend it's exactly the same as its predecessors.

edited 27th Aug '14 9:50:56 AM by spashthebandragon

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edited 9th Sep '14 3:26:12 PM by TheLemsterPju

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edited 9th Sep '14 3:26:24 PM by TheLemsterPju

I didn't say I hated it. I'm simply refuting your point about it being similar in tone to its predecessors. "Tone" is not a subjective aspect of writing. You can have an "opinion" to the contrary, but it wouldn't change the fact that the Adam West Batman and The Dark Knight have totally different tones, for example. Likewise, the fact that this show frequently has cartoony cutaway gags is a HUGE factor on the tone that differentiates it from past Spidey adaptations. You can't ignore that. It's not an opinion. It's a fact. Now, whether that has a good or a bad impact on the quality IS an opinion, but I never said anything about that in my last post.

You think I should stop being a smart aleck? Well, I think you should simmer down and stop treating this show like it's under constant assault.

IIRC, Jeph Loeb also disliked how arc-centric EMH was, and wanted it to be replaced with something more episodic, since kids can't fully enjoy / adequately follow arcs or something like that.

edited 27th Aug '14 9:46:55 AM by KnownUnknown

I just want to point out that the amount of cartoony cutaways severely decreased as time went on. Does feel that people do over exaggerate on how many there were.

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edited 9th Sep '14 3:26:36 PM by TheLemsterPju

B:TAS isn't an "end all, be all" example for how comic book shows need to be. Sadly, a lot of people believe that bias.

It's still a good example of a successful adaptation line lasting more than a decade, and so far, it's still unprecedent in that regard (except maybe for Super Friends of all things). That is no 'bias', and I resent being implicitally called 'biased' that way.

There's nothing wrong with being closer to the movies. In fact it actually benefits both, because the audience will be more familiar with these versions of the characters.

It certainly didn't help MTV's Spider-Man. Or TMNT Next Mutation. And the animation world is full of move adaptations that went nowhere as high as their inspirations. From Karate Kid to Rambo, it's obvious the animation and live action big screen audiences not always interlap. A movie catches the audience's attention for 2 hours or so, but a series needs to build its own mythology and feeling for a lot longer to keep their audience's attentions.

edited 27th Aug '14 10:22:23 AM by NapoleonDeCheese

The fact they decreased doesn't change that it happened.

And while at this point pretty much easy to write off anyone who complain about the constant cutaways as those who only seen early episodes, the complaints about the humor itself do have a point at times.

By the way, neither Agents of SMASH nor USM follows suit with their own respective lines of live action movies, so that only adds to the weirdness of Assemble trying to do it at the same time. If they wanted to do it, at least they should have gone all the way with it.

I'll admit I've only seen the early episodes. But, I mean, the overall tone can't have transformed so completely, could it? What I was trying to say earlier is that the fact that Miles Morales exists in the "Web Warriors mulitverse" is strange to me because the death of Peter in the original comic was such a somber, serious occasion, I can't imagine it happening in the cartoon universe. It's like how Howard the Duck and Frank Miller-esque Daredevil both exist in the MCU (and the original comics, really). They don't seem like they fit together.

Sony owns Spidey's movies, so I doubt Disney could get away with it.

edited 27th Aug '14 10:34:30 AM by spashthebandragon

The "overall" tone doesn't change, but some episodes tend to be more serious and are better because of it.

edit:About Miles Morales and the death of Peter Parker. I think it can work, because its a multiverse.

edited 27th Aug '14 10:42:06 AM by Cross

That doesn't excuse Hulk, however.

There's only one Hulk movie, though (In the MCU, at least).

Yeah, I'm guessing this version of Miles isn't from Peter's own future, then. I wonder how they're going to treat his death, though. Are we going to see Aunt May in mourning or anything? (I really doubt it...)

edited 27th Aug '14 11:15:45 AM by spashthebandragon

http://marvel.com/news/tv/2014/8/28/23157/steve_wacker_harrison_wilcox_talk_marvels_ultimate_spider-man_web_warriors

There will be a Christmas episode.

Spider-Man 2099

edited 31st Aug '14 4:26:25 PM by TheLemsterPju

First off, that TV CG is looking pretty rad.

Second, that's not Josh Keaton as Spider-Man 2099, is it? Maybe it is, and he just sounds different because Miguel O'Hara isn't the same as Peter Parker?

edited 31st Aug '14 4:37:15 PM by TargetmasterJoe

I think it's Sean Astin.