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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#1026: Sep 15th 2014 at 7:00:22 AM

Spender's no hero. Damn if I wasn't rooting for him, though. Forge was way too sanctimonious. And he did have something up his sleeve after all. What's the alt text say?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#1027: Sep 15th 2014 at 7:22:28 AM

Heh. Lots of people are disappointed to have lost to someone so pathetic. Heh.

edited 15th Sep '14 7:22:47 AM by Moth13

Everzwijn glarblgrklgrgg from under your bed Since: Sep, 2009
#1028: Sep 15th 2014 at 8:59:31 AM

Fuck you, Spender. Forge was cool. >:(

I hope Forge possesses something/someone and comes back.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#1029: Sep 15th 2014 at 9:16:29 AM

[up] Hoping this too. It doesn't have to be right away, but I think he's to good to kill off after only one chapter.

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JotunofBoredom Left Eye from Noatun Since: Dec, 2009
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#1030: Sep 15th 2014 at 9:58:16 AM

[up][up]I wonder who would have a gray spectral energy.

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rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1031: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:27:12 AM

Honestly, Forge came across as less of a bad guy in this fight. Spender was the one who started it, after all.
Spender didn't attack until after Forge ripped the train open.

A true hero's priority is the lives of the innocent and/or defenseless
As the mentor to an anime hero, Spender knows his students can take care of themselves. He says so and anything.

And for all Forge's talk about how Spender's a terrible person for not going after the train, Forge doesn't exactly drop everything to go help when he finds out there are kids on board.

Everzwijn glarblgrklgrgg from under your bed Since: Sep, 2009
#1032: Sep 15th 2014 at 10:28:59 AM

And then the new girl (Walker?) turns out to have gray energy. And is possessed as soon as she enters the ghost train.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#1033: Sep 15th 2014 at 12:30:55 PM

Bet she has pink energy. And I think we're being too quick to demonize Spender here. I'll withhold judgment until we have some more insight as to his goals and motivations.

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1034: Sep 15th 2014 at 1:39:53 PM

He's an incompetent teacher and his only worth appears to be in the spirits posessing him. Okay, you may be right, we may need to learn more about him but he's so... So.... Sad. And not in a feeling sorry for him sad. A pathetic sad.

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odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#1035: Sep 15th 2014 at 2:07:05 PM

He's a pretty brutal subversion of the 'Mentor Hiding Something' archetype. Like, bare-knuckle beatdown followed by a ten course meal of curbstomp brutal.

edited 15th Sep '14 2:07:19 PM by odafangirl

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#1036: Sep 15th 2014 at 2:26:00 PM

Still holding out a bit.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Everzwijn glarblgrklgrgg from under your bed Since: Sep, 2009
#1037: Sep 15th 2014 at 2:41:45 PM

I really don't like Spender. Begging for mercy, then attacking from behind, and showing absolutely no mercy in return? Dude, you are no hero.

Spender is like the least cool character ever.

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#1038: Sep 15th 2014 at 2:45:49 PM

I still like him, but that doesn't mean I trust him.

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#1039: Sep 15th 2014 at 2:52:48 PM

[up]That.

I like him. He's a unique character in that you don't typically see a mentor figure like him. But I don't trust him.

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#1040: Sep 15th 2014 at 3:06:10 PM

Spender is a not so powerful scholer who looks for secrets to hide for himself and other information to know about what he is dealing with (More secrets, more knowledge).

He is a coward who will use any advantage he can get when he should use it to defeat opponents much stronger than him, especially if he percieves the enemy as a threat to people other than him.

While having a sense of justice against bad-types, he doesnt see it as neccesery to uphold himself as different from them as long as it works for him, Be it by breaking morals or rules.

So i think it can be safely said, that in D&D terms, Mr. Spender is Chaotic Evil.

rikalous World's Cutest Direwolf from Upscale Mordor Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
World's Cutest Direwolf
#1041: Sep 15th 2014 at 3:31:29 PM

Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree so very hard with this.

Spender is a not so powerful scholer who looks for secrets to hide for himself and other information to know about what he is dealing with (More secrets, more knowledge).
There's a deity in the core D&D 3.5 pantheon who's basically the goddess of that. She's lawful neutral. So I'm not seeing that as particularly chaotic or evil.

He is a coward who will use any advantage he can get when he should use it to defeat opponents much stronger than him, especially if he percieves the enemy as a threat to people other than him.

While having a sense of justice against bad-types, he doesnt see it as neccesery to uphold himself as different from them as long as it works for him, Be it by breaking morals or rules.

Now Chaotic I'll give you, but neither being more concerned for the wellbeing of others than his own nor having a sense of justice are exactly hallmarks of Evil. Further, if I had to sum up "will use any advantage he can get when he should use it to defeat opponents much stronger than him" in a single D&D mechanic, I'd go with the sneak attack, signature move of the alignment unrestricted Rogue.

So what's Spender done that's so evil and moral-breaking? Keep secrets? I didn't see anyone talking about how evil Boss Leader was when she said Isaac wasn't allowed to know things. I wasn't in the thread for when it was revealed that Isaac was keeping the Doorman secret; did people call that evil?

Or is it the lust for knowledge that makes Spender evil? Then I guess Isaac's crime must not be keeping mum about the Doorman, but trying to pump Spender for information via Max.

The sucker-punching, is that what pushes him into the demon alignment? Because, again, the Rogue combat style is built around sucker-punching, and never have I heard anyone claiming that Rogues should all be Chaotic Evil. The Combat Pragmatist is not always a bad guy.

My weakest argument is in defense of him begging for his life, because it rests on supposition. But given the "other guy," my guess is that he was being sincere when he said that killing him would release a dangerous spirit, which puts begging for his life in a rather different light.

Anyway, worst I'd put him at this point is Chaotic Neutral.

Everzwijn glarblgrklgrgg from under your bed Since: Sep, 2009
#1042: Sep 15th 2014 at 3:40:30 PM

Lol, Spender isn't evil.

He's quite unlikable though.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#1043: Sep 15th 2014 at 4:17:54 PM

I don't think I'd ever have a problem interacting with spender, because I don't think He'd ever see me as a threat.

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MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1044: Sep 15th 2014 at 4:39:43 PM

Attacking from behind is more pragmatic than anything else. Dishonorable? Perhaps, depending on your personal code, but it is smart to lure your opponent into a false sense of security.

Just means he's a guy I'm not going to 100% count on to watch my back. He's still funny as hell, I'm jsut not sure he knows what he's doing half the time which is, to be fair, rather human. Becuase really, what does anyone really know what they're doing at any time? Except Boss leader of course.

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odafangirl Indeed. from Land of Fun and Pain Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#1045: Sep 15th 2014 at 4:42:59 PM

It's also pretty clearly not high ranking in this organization, possibly for good reason.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#1046: Sep 15th 2014 at 4:51:54 PM

He's a guy who's very dedicated to his ideal of the greater good and, while generally nice and easygoing, has zero qualms as to the means to get there. Honestly, I think we're letting Forge's (quite hypocritical) rhetoric do the judging for us here.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1047: Sep 15th 2014 at 4:58:42 PM

Forge's rhetoric? the only thing that's been getting to me is how he doesn't seem to be that good at his job. Not much of a teacher, not much of a protector, not much of a supernatural fighter, I am frankly amazed Isabella, Isaac, and Ed still have functioning limbs.

On the bright side he takes going to bed very seriously, and is probably the only dork on the planet to wear driving gloves.

edited 15th Sep '14 5:28:18 PM by MousaThe14

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#1048: Sep 15th 2014 at 5:25:19 PM

I knew you were Aquarius, but man.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
MousaThe14 Writer, Artist, Ignored from Northern Virginia Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
Writer, Artist, Ignored
#1049: Sep 15th 2014 at 5:28:47 PM

THAT WAS A TYPO! Do not dare begin to mistaken me for that... that...

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zeromaeus Mighty No. 51345 from Neo Arcadia Since: May, 2010
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#1050: Sep 15th 2014 at 5:49:48 PM

Wwhats the matter, mousa?

I like Spender. He's an interesting character. He's not what I expected, but that doesn't make him a bad guy. Just a little unpredictable.

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