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#7851: Aug 11th 2017 at 2:50:34 PM

[up] That means it took 25 Shermans to kill a tiger. Checkmate, 'Murica!

Still not embarrassing enough to stan billionaires or tech companies.
pwiegle Cape Malleum Majorem from Nowhere Special Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#7852: Aug 11th 2017 at 2:58:43 PM

[up]You think you're funny, but you're not.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#7853: Aug 11th 2017 at 4:29:25 PM

pwiegle: Oh he is more than funny. He is hilarious. tongue

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#7854: Aug 11th 2017 at 7:48:10 PM

Number wise, the amount of Tiger Is in the Western Front were around 250 tanks, most of them broke down before even having a chance of engaging any enemy tank, of those that did only a few managed to score more than 5 kills.

Around 50 got sent to Italy and Sicily to face the US forces landing on the Italian front. All of the Tiger Is were destroyed by shore bombardment or broke down on the Italian hills and roads.

The highest amount of Tigers I active in the Western Front was in Normandy, though the British did encounter most of them, the US armored divisions didn't see as many of them, Panthers were more common.

The Highest point of the Tiger I in the Western Front was the Villers Bocage ambush in Normandy after that, during Ardennes most of the encounters with Tiger I's didn't end well for the Tigers.

And yet, for some reason, everyone just thinks the US and UK Armored Forces ran into Tigers all the time or that Tigers were the most common German tank in the War...

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#7855: Aug 11th 2017 at 9:28:14 PM

[up] 16 Tigers were also sent to Tunisia as part of the 501st Heavy Panzer Battalion, which was most infamous as one of the armored units that spearheaded the German counter-offensive during Operation Spring Wind at the Kasserine Pass. They destroyed or disabled 20 Shermans of the US 1st Armored Division before being destroyed in the campaigns following Kasserine Pass.

TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#7856: Aug 17th 2017 at 6:37:25 PM

Ok this stupid story again. For those not knowing. Trump tweeted the Myth about Pershing killing Muslims with pigs blood and/or further desecration of corpses involving pigs. This has been so thoroughly debunked it is mind numbing. I hate this bloody story.

I hate it because Pershing didn't strictly rely on barbarism, brute force, or savagery. Yes he used military might but he also showed himself to be reasonably capable with soft power. It didn't always work and his plans were not always effective but he is far from the monster like visage given to him with glee.

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FluffyMcChicken My Hair Provides Affordable Healthcare from where the floating lights gleam Since: Jun, 2014 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#7857: Aug 18th 2017 at 11:33:11 PM

I'm betting on Trump citing WWII German counter-insurgency tactics as more effective than modern day ones "limited" and "restrained" by those pesky rules of engagement. This sentiment has been spread more than anything else by Devil's Guard, a controversial 1972 book infamous for its popularity among US troops during the Iraq War that claims to be the edited memoir of a Waffen-SS trooper who eventually served with the French Foreign Legion in Indochina.

As what one would expect, it has a strong fanbase among neo-Nazis.

edited 19th Aug '17 7:15:16 AM by FluffyMcChicken

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#7858: Aug 19th 2017 at 5:49:24 AM

Fluffy, could you please do us all a small favour? Just point out that it has strong Nazi/White Supremacist/KKK ties but not link to storm front.

Well would you look at that. SEAL Team Six, our most notorious Spec Ops today was obsessed and affiliated with this garbage.

The rest of the military has had problems with right wing extremists, gangs, and other problematic groups. They also get some of the left leaning loonies.

To top it off the US Military had course effectively teaching atomic genocide in the Middle East and other charming extremist thought. Pointed that out a while back and was thoroughly dismayed.

Cited from that article. A long read on the many problems of the team.

edited 19th Aug '17 5:52:28 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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#7859: Aug 19th 2017 at 12:31:43 PM

Crossposting from the Military Thread:

Billionaire Paul Allen Finds Lost World War II Cruiser USS Indianapolis in the Philippine Sea

Seventy-two years after two torpedoes fired from a Japanese submarine sunk cruiser USS Indianapolis (CA-35), the ship’s wreckage was found resting on the seafloor on Saturday – more than 18,000 feet below the Pacific Ocean’s surface.

Paul Allen, Microsoft co-founder and billionaire philanthropist, led a search team, assisted by historians from the Naval History and Heritage Command (NHHC) in Washington, D.C., to accomplish what past searches had failed to do – find Indianapolis, considered the last great naval tragedy of World War II.

“To be able to honor the brave men of the USS Indianapolis and their families through the discovery of a ship that played such a significant role in ending World War II is truly humbling,” said Allen in a statement provided to USNI News on Saturday. “As Americans, we all owe a debt of gratitude to the crew for their courage, persistence and sacrifice in the face of horrendous circumstances. While our search for the rest of the wreckage will continue, I hope everyone connected to this historic ship will feel some measure of closure at this discovery so long in coming.”

On July 30, 1945, what turned out to be the final days of World War II, Indianapolis had just completed a secret mission to the island Tinian, delivering components of the atomic bomb “Little Boy” dropped on Hiroshima which would ultimately help end the war. The ship sunk in 12 minutes, before a distress signal could be sent or much of the life-saving equipment was deployed, according to a statement from the Naval History and Heritage Command in Washington, D.C. Because of the secrecy surrounding the mission, the ship wasn’t listed as overdue

Around 800 of the ship’s 1,196 sailors and Marines survived the sinking, but after four to five days in the water, suffering exposure, dehydration, drowning, and shark attacks, only 316 survived.

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#7860: Aug 19th 2017 at 7:45:24 PM

[up][up] Duly noted - I just felt better about myself actually citing my sources instead of just dropping blanket statements such as those, especially in interesting times such as these.

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#7861: Aug 19th 2017 at 8:46:16 PM

Hey no problem. I fully understand.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#7862: Aug 21st 2017 at 8:13:12 AM

When it came to figuring out which countries would be the perfect breeding ground for his ideals, was Marx also aware of Asian countries, or was he only focused on Europe?

AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#7863: Aug 21st 2017 at 8:45:47 AM

[up]Europe, most specifically, industrially developed Europe.

Marx didn't think the transition from capitalism to socialism shouldn't happen in pre-industrial societies. To the point he was expecting Britain to be the first to have a socialist revolution.

Which is kinda funny since the first country to actually have one was the fairly underdeveloped and agrarian Russian Empire and they were forced to go through an extremely painful modernization process to catch up with the capitalist powers.

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#7864: Aug 21st 2017 at 8:56:46 AM

Which battle was it where a solar eclipse freaked out the armies so much they called for peace immediately afterwards?

I smell magic in the air. Or maybe barbecue.
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#7866: Aug 21st 2017 at 9:48:45 AM

Wow that is kind of crazy. They were apparently so disturbed by it they signed a peace treaty ending a six year war.

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#7867: Aug 22nd 2017 at 9:48:03 AM

As someone who actually saw an eclipse I honestly can't blame them. Having to look away from the sun in fear of your eyesight made me feel like I was in the presence of some kind of wrathful god. And the day was cloudy and we have modern scientific knowledge.

We need to build monuments to Civl Rights Heroes I think the problem with Civl War histriogrophy, well one of many, is that Pro Union portrays often boil down to "North Rules South Drools." We may not be the most fervent American patriots, but I can tell you many Northern Liberals are positively Jingoistic when it comes to their states. Instead we should have emphasizes the confederacy's vileness but also pointed out the Thousands of Southerners, both White and Black who aided the Union cause. As well as the Northern Traitors and collaborationists, the Tameny Hall did not exactly behave admirably. It might not fix everything, but I fell the North has to be a bit more contrite about racism. After all, NYC is the most segregated city in the country.

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#7868: Aug 25th 2017 at 9:10:36 PM

Josh Gates and his team going through the ruins of Chernobyl on tonight's episode of Destination Truth has a sad echo about it. I heard that before the nuclear disaster, Chernobyl was the most modern city in the Soviet Union.

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TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#7869: Aug 27th 2017 at 9:21:58 AM

Mie University graduate school to include ninja studies in entrance exam

The guy in the picture already failed though.tongue

edited 27th Aug '17 9:24:24 AM by TerminusEst

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#7870: Aug 27th 2017 at 11:48:26 AM

[up]I was expecting a Naruto cosplay there.

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SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#7871: Aug 31st 2017 at 7:45:27 PM

Are there any sources other than Homage to Catalonia about the anarchists during the Spanish Civil War?

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#7872: Sep 1st 2017 at 3:12:07 AM

What figures are suspected to be Edward VII's illegitimate children? I imagine he must have had some given his rep

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#7873: Sep 1st 2017 at 10:08:19 PM

It's rather odd that for a series based heavily on Celtic Mythology, MacPherson never once brings up Ossian's love affair with Niamh, nor his voyage to Tir na Nog (that I know of, anyway).

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#7874: Sep 2nd 2017 at 6:40:09 AM

[up]For your earlier question, The Other Wiki has a list of sources at the end of the relevant article.

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#7875: Sep 2nd 2017 at 7:17:24 AM

Double-Post for a completely separate topic.
For those who want to write about monarchies without going L'etat c'est moi or UK in Space route, Anthony Kaldellis makes an interesting argument that the Roman Empire could still be considered a republic even well beyond the time of Justinian the Great. The book is The Byzantine Republic People and Power in New Rome, and I'll try not rehashing the whole thing, but some of the points are: note 

  • Roman Emperors kept a close eye on their level of popular support. Their lives and freedom depended on it.
    • Their throne wasn't even valid until they got the ok from the populace, who would easily ignore them (at best). And plenty got the throne without their own consent.
    • Relatedly, the thing about being God's representative was more propaganda (think of a US election) than what the Romans believed.
  • Rebellions and the like could be considered the (bloody) Imperial versions of elections. Emperors were raised with the cry worthy and could be felled whenever someone with the support raised the cry unworthy.
    • It bares emphasizing that this could happen at any freakin time. Heraclius replaced Phocas (though that was very necessary) in a situation analogous to the Soviets replacing Stalin in the middle of the Barbarossa.
    • The Emperors also were very aware that this could happen at any freakin time. (Michael V all but personally rubbed the feet of everyone in Constantinople before trying to depose Zoe, followed by having a herald spin the situation to his best advantage—and it still blew up in his face...)
  • The Emperors were under strong pressure to follow the laws (or look as if they did). Arbitrary behavior significantly raised the chances of hearing that unworthy cry ring through Constantinople.
    • The Roman concept of the lawful polity was at the core of their identity and connected them to their ancestors. In a rebellion,usually both sides portrayed themselves as upholding the law.
  • If unworthy cries (and subsequent rebellion) were treated like the beginnings of a (particularly bloody) snap election, Kaldellis notes that the incumbent lost 1/5th of the time (and snarkily adds that the rate is higher than the result of many modern elections).
  • The Romans were scarcely as afraid of their Emperors as say, the Persians feared theirs. Insulting poems, mocking plays, and blunt jokes were passed around the capital rather openly, and the Romans made demands of the incumbent Emperor as readily as if they were addressing an elected official.
The books summary reads note 

edited 2nd Sep '17 7:19:02 AM by CenturyEye

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