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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#5726: Dec 10th 2015 at 6:40:22 PM

Santos: Is there a better source on it then that site?

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SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#5727: Dec 11th 2015 at 12:15:09 AM

No, because Druids did not exist during Megalithic times. Hell, I'm not even sure if Indo-Europeans existed during Megalithic times.

RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
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#5728: Dec 11th 2015 at 12:27:00 AM

It's thought that some form of Indo-European languages existed, but the information is scatty at best.

We have some examples like the Kunda culture, but those only extended as far as Poland and maybe Germany at best.

What we know as Celtic culture probably sprang from the Hallstatt culture, but that's some distance off Megalithic.

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#5729: Dec 11th 2015 at 1:07:48 AM

Santos: Ok I wasn't sure to what extent you were joking or if they were missing something. I did find that odd and was a wee bit confused.

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dRoy Professional Writer & Amateur Scholar from Most likely from my study Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
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#5730: Dec 11th 2015 at 5:00:48 PM

Random question.

Is there any other countries like Afghanistan and Vietnam, "where empires go to die"?

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#5731: Dec 11th 2015 at 6:56:56 PM

That's largely a function of popular belief, not something inherent or necessarily historically valid. By that metric what could be the most invaded country in Europe, Poland, might qualify.

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#5732: Dec 11th 2015 at 8:27:21 PM

So I'm working on a year-long graduation project, which involves me personally volunteering at the military museum that Sabre's Edge once also did so at. The project as a whole requires me to make an argument about a point and give evidence for it in an essay and seminar by the end of the school year.

Anyways, do any of you brilliant people here have sources regarding the role and effect that military museums have played in society, economy, and culture?

edited 11th Dec '15 8:28:41 PM by FluffyMcChicken

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#5733: Dec 12th 2015 at 9:39:20 AM

@dRoy: What does that mean?

@Fluffy Mc Chicken: Sorry, I don't.

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#5734: Dec 12th 2015 at 9:46:17 AM

"Where empires go to die" refers to a country or region that has been invaded and occupied multiple times by other nations, but somehow manages to retain its autonomy and/or its cultural identity in spite of that.

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Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#5735: Dec 12th 2015 at 9:50:15 AM

Ah. I was thinking it was something like "invading Russia during the Winter"-type of deal.

HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#5736: Dec 12th 2015 at 10:43:07 AM

Much like how there were American airmen in Royal Air Force equipment during the Battle of Britain, were there Americans who were manning the M4 Shermans given to the British Army in Africa for El-Alamein?

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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#5738: Dec 12th 2015 at 11:46:35 AM

American Volunteers for the UK were largely focused either joining the RAF early on, a recent ancestor of my family did so and died over Germany, or later joined groups like the Eagles.

However there were a few British Army Volunteers. Emphasis on the few. There is a book called Into the Dust and Fire by Rachael S. Cox that details the story of a handful of American Ivy Leaguer's who left the US and joined the British Army who did fight in that particular battle across various roles. Amazon page Not sure how good the work is but it sounds promising. Fair warning though the author has some personal connection to the books subject but it might be ok as she is a professional history writer.

edited 12th Dec '15 11:49:48 AM by TuefelHundenIV

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SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#5739: Dec 12th 2015 at 4:19:48 PM

@Where Empires go to Die

This is what always comes to mind when I see Afghanistan described as "the graveyeard of empires"

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#5740: Dec 12th 2015 at 4:34:28 PM

Santos: Lol. Good ole Poland ball. I can't quite recognize all the others in the last panel though

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SantosLHalper Since: Aug, 2009
#5741: Dec 12th 2015 at 4:41:31 PM

From left to right: the Achaemenids, Alexander's Macedon, the Mongols, the Safavids and the Mughals. Mind you, the Afghans actually did play a pretty big roll in the fall of the Safavid Empire.

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#5742: Dec 12th 2015 at 5:37:42 PM

I found this recently published book on the Portuguese Empire at the Barnes & Nobles today, and it seems to be getting rave reviews.

Conquerors: How Portugal seized the Indian Ocean and forged the First Global Empire

Quag15 Since: Mar, 2012
#5743: Dec 12th 2015 at 6:42:14 PM

[up](Caravel intensifies)cool

Let me know your thoughts about it, or the gist of it, if possible.

edited 12th Dec '15 6:42:47 PM by Quag15

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#5744: Dec 13th 2015 at 4:05:22 AM

[up][up][up] The second one is the Sassanids, not Alexander's Macedon.

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RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
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#5745: Dec 13th 2015 at 4:27:25 AM

[up]Yup, the second one has the Faravahar on it.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#5746: Dec 13th 2015 at 6:17:04 AM

Is it true the Imperial War Museum is only open for a limited time in a year?

RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
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#5747: Dec 13th 2015 at 6:18:40 AM

Nope, only closed for 3 days at Christmas.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#5748: Dec 13th 2015 at 6:35:00 AM

[up] That's odd. It was closed when me and my family were in London May last year.

RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#5750: Dec 13th 2015 at 7:37:53 AM

[up] No wonder. Thanks

Anyways, one thing to ask about Operation Overlord: I get that Utah and Omaha were to be the American beaches, but were the other Allied forces participating, like the Free Belgian forces, Free Czech forces, and Free Luxembourg forces, allowed to land on those beaches?


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