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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
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#1: Mar 5th 2011 at 3:52:24 PM

WHAT THE FUCK DID I JUST READ???

This book... I was hoping to wirte something in the same vein, but this book... brought me down... I could never come up with so many freaking ideas. What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs??

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#2: Mar 5th 2011 at 3:55:35 PM

Sumerian mythology + Julian Jaynes + talking penises had to be drug-fueled, huh?

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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#3: Mar 5th 2011 at 3:57:09 PM

[up]Are you trying to confuse me even more?

Also, I'm not sure if this book is taking itself seriously. I mean, KATANAS? SERIOUSLY? The main character is called Hero Protagonist? Delivering Pizza is Serious Business?

AM I READING A SHOUNEN MANGA???

"Sweets are good. Sweets are justice."
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#4: Mar 5th 2011 at 4:00:26 PM

Are you trying to confuse me even more?

Nope.

Also, I'm not sure if this book is taking itself seriously.

Nope.

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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#5: Mar 5th 2011 at 4:03:59 PM

So... the book actually features talking penises...

I can't stop reading it...

edited 5th Mar '11 4:06:02 PM by Ardiente

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Taelor Don't Forget To Smile from The Paths of Spite Since: Jul, 2009
Don't Forget To Smile
#6: Mar 5th 2011 at 4:16:04 PM

I take it this is your first Neal Stephenson novel?

And you're not done with it yet? You're in for a ride, then.

You're ahead of the curve, though; it took me until the second read through to realize how Hiro's full name was pronounced.

edited 5th Mar '11 4:18:01 PM by Taelor

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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#7: Mar 5th 2011 at 4:33:08 PM

... It's in an audiobook with a narrator who sounds like Spike Spiegel...

And, yeah, I didn't know it was spelled Hiro...

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Taelor Don't Forget To Smile from The Paths of Spite Since: Jul, 2009
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#8: Mar 5th 2011 at 5:09:53 PM

Yeah, Hiro is a fairly common Japanese Nipponese name.

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Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#9: Mar 5th 2011 at 5:16:28 PM

And one of the most Incredibly Lame Bilingual Puns Ever.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#10: Mar 5th 2011 at 5:17:51 PM

Well, his surname was something he changed to himself.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#11: Mar 5th 2011 at 6:49:48 PM

A drug-dealing radioactive Inuit that rides a motorcycle with a nuke strapped to it, killed an entire Russian nuclear sub with a glass knife, and peddles cybercrack on the internet. Who duels to the death with an African-Asian internet samurai warrior prince who delivers pizza for the Mafia as a day job.

This book has to be the poster child for the Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot trope or something.

Ardiente I won't kill you. Since: Jan, 2011
I won't kill you.
#12: Mar 6th 2011 at 8:19:39 AM

... Tashikani...

edited 6th Mar '11 8:19:50 AM by Ardiente

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ItsTheGuy Since: Dec, 1969
#13: Mar 6th 2011 at 8:09:00 PM

Just think, when you finish this one, you've still got The Diamond Age, Cryptonomicon, The Baroque Cycle, and Anathem. I had to read them as they came out. If I read them all at once, I think my head would asplode.

annebeeche watching down on us from by the long tidal river Since: Nov, 2010
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#14: Mar 10th 2011 at 8:17:57 PM

I just realized who should do a film adaptation for this book:

Quentin Tarantino.

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Taelor Don't Forget To Smile from The Paths of Spite Since: Jul, 2009
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#15: Mar 10th 2011 at 8:37:07 PM

That was the conclusion that I came to as well.

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Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#16: Mar 13th 2011 at 3:59:45 AM

I wish he could invent the ability to pull off a decent ending, though, though I must confess I gave up on him somewhere during the Baroque Cycle, and what I've heard of Anathem does not encourage me.

And yes, Snow Crash could be a shounen manga. This is probably deliberate.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#17: Mar 13th 2011 at 4:04:46 AM

It was originally intended to be a graphic novel. Fitting.

Also, I think you can safely skip Anathem IMHO.

Morven Nemesis from Seattle, WA, USA Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Mar 13th 2011 at 4:09:20 AM

I remember Norn and I having a discussion about that once; we agreed about Stephenson's increasing flaw, which is pandering to his nerd audience, Anathem being the worst case of such so far.

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#19: Mar 13th 2011 at 4:52:19 AM

My personal gripe with it was that it lacked the zany funniness of his earlier work. That's a signature element, man.

Also, the book is apparently an extended Take That! at a certain school of mathematical thought. :/

Taelor Don't Forget To Smile from The Paths of Spite Since: Jul, 2009
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#20: Mar 13th 2011 at 2:04:24 PM

Regarding Anathem: the Platonism just kinda left a bad taste in my mouth.

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#21: Mar 13th 2011 at 2:10:17 PM

So it's anti-formalism or what?

And yes, Snow Crash could be a shounen manga. This is probably deliberate.

The copy I first read had an afterword saying that it was originally going to be a graphic novel. When I read that I was pretty much, well. Haven't seen much to back that up since, however, I may have dreamed it.

edited 13th Mar '11 2:10:47 PM by Tzetze

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#22: Mar 13th 2011 at 2:58:26 PM

Naw, it said that in my copy too.

It makes sense if you imagine some of the sequences (like Hiro's and Raven's motive rant bike duel at the end) in the form of a graphic novel storyboard.

Taelor Don't Forget To Smile from The Paths of Spite Since: Jul, 2009
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#23: Mar 13th 2011 at 3:01:22 PM

So it's anti-formalism or what?
Yeah, basically.

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rbx5 Rbx5 Since: Jan, 2001
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#24: Mar 13th 2011 at 3:52:14 PM

Am I the only one who imagined Y.T. as looking a lot like Lain?

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Charlatan Since: Mar, 2011
#25: Mar 13th 2011 at 3:53:04 PM

I tended to imagine her as Molly Millions Junior.


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