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Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#39826: May 23rd 2018 at 10:29:46 AM

[up] Come to think of it, wouldn't it make sense if Shade was rebooted in some way for the main Sonic games?

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edited 23rd May '18 10:30:07 AM by Luigisan98

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#39827: May 23rd 2018 at 11:23:14 AM

[up] Eh, maybe they could do that, but they probably won't to avoid reigniting the relentless wrath of the Penders Beast and his baffling troll logic.

edited 23rd May '18 11:23:46 AM by TargetmasterJoe

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#39828: May 23rd 2018 at 11:37:33 AM

Shit, I loved Scourge. He's THE antithesis to Sonic at the end of the day, and another reason I want SEGA to legally destroy Penders.

Also, there's also the idea that shit works when you put them under a capable writer. Ian Flynn worked with Penders' material, and he made it work.

edited 23rd May '18 11:38:47 AM by ZeroDozer

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#39829: May 23rd 2018 at 11:47:50 AM

We all know Ian Flynn is the shit. That's nothing new. [lol]

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#39830: May 23rd 2018 at 12:04:37 PM

[up] Ian's so much the sh*t, he's co-writing a Superman story! grin

(Though that's kinda off-topic. Or is it?)

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#39832: May 23rd 2018 at 2:02:05 PM

They probably could bring Shade into the main games, but won't because Chronicles didn't do well so they have no incentive to.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#39833: May 23rd 2018 at 2:17:01 PM

They wouldn't bring back any characters from Chronicles because as soon as the game was released Ken Penders sued them claiming that they stole his characters

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#39834: May 23rd 2018 at 3:14:07 PM

Speaking of Ken Penders, he also did the cover artwork for the Sonic SatAM DVD box set.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#39835: May 23rd 2018 at 3:38:14 PM

Could you link the one you're talking about? Because Google returns several different DVD covers.

lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#39836: May 23rd 2018 at 4:55:00 PM

[up] The box's front cover.

The individual DVD covers and inserts are drawn by fans ^^ I know I saw one on deviantart before.

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Numbuh1234 Since: Apr, 2014
#39837: May 24th 2018 at 3:10:03 AM

The court case surrounding that is a standstill, but Ken can't pick it back up unless SEGA uses characters or ideas from the game again

and considering the game's low sales and overall low reception, I don't think SEGA is interested in using those again.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#39839: May 24th 2018 at 9:06:36 AM

Since Chronicles didn't do well I don't think they care enough to.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39841: May 24th 2018 at 10:47:03 PM

Going back to that one idea of a Sonic villain as cruel as Frieza, what if he did stuff like injuring Tails so badly he goes into a coma, beating Knuckles within an inch of his life, and flogging Amy until she starts weeping in agony?

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#39842: May 24th 2018 at 10:48:25 PM

[up] Then give said villain a beatdown worthy of satisfaction.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39843: May 24th 2018 at 10:52:35 PM

[up]Oh, most definitely, but would scenarios like the ones I described work in Sonic?

As you guessed, a Sonic villain with this level of sadism would be a Hate Sink.

[down]And the other two?

edited 24th May '18 11:01:52 PM by superboy313

Luigisan98 A wandering user from Venezuelan Muscat Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I <3 love!
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#39844: May 24th 2018 at 10:54:08 PM

[up] The flogging part is way brutal even by Sonic standards. And the other two tone it down as well as [down] points out.

edited 25th May '18 5:26:56 AM by Luigisan98

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TommyFresh Since: Aug, 2013
#39845: May 25th 2018 at 5:14:43 AM

Honestly, I can't see any of those scenarios ever happening in an official Sonic game. They sound more like something that would happen in an edgy fanfic. People getting beaten into comas or flogged until they cry is really a level of violence that doesn't fit with the Sonic games in my opinion.

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#39846: May 25th 2018 at 7:50:51 AM

Well...it does, so whatever.

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#39847: May 25th 2018 at 1:05:15 PM

Sonic was captured and tortured for six months in the games.

After that, most things are fine.

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TommyFresh Since: Aug, 2013
#39848: May 25th 2018 at 1:53:19 PM

The torture happens offscreen and Sonic barely acts any different afterward. I wouldn't put that on the same level as Tails being beaten into a coma. I know Sonic can have dark stuff but I still think those scenarios are pretty excessive.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#39849: May 25th 2018 at 2:36:20 PM

I'm pretty sure the "Sonic has been tortured for 6 months" part was put in by the dub, because at no other point is it implied that Sonic was tortured or anything.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#39850: May 25th 2018 at 3:24:43 PM

[up][up]Just to clarify, it's more like Tails receives a single injury so bad it leaves him comatose.


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