YMMV Tropes - In-Story/In-Universe

I understand that Your Mileage May Vary tropes are designed to show subjective ideas from the point-of-view of an outside audience. But in recent media, especially in recent satire, self-aware comedies, or parodies, it has become increasingly common for these YMMV Tropes to be referenced within the plot/dialogue of various works of fiction.

While these tropes may represent subjectivity on the part of the authors/characters, they aren't subjective within the context of this wiki; they represent actual relevant facts equal to tropes that are represented on a works main page. I feel this are being inappropriately grouped with tropes that are subjective in the traditional manner.

YMMV tropes that are present within a story can be listed on the main page with "In-Universe" put after the trope listed.

Those count as objective uses of the trope, and thus are to be put on the main page. Adding the words "In-Universe" or "Invoked" into the line will remove the "YMMV trope" flag. If you cannot get it to work properly, add it in supersecretspoiler after the example to get it to go away.

Did Invoked get fixed to kill the YMMV note on the edit screen?

Yes.

Actually, not really; I just tried the Invoked on The Kurosagi Corpse Delivery Service for Nausea Fuel and it didn't take off the notice...does it have to be bracketed?

So apparently "In-Universe" is what takes off the tag on the edit page.

'invoked' now works to filter out YMMV's on the edit screen.

And you don't need to use supersecretspoiler, potholes work just fine.

We should probably make a sticky for this question, since multiple people have asked it.

Are "invoked" and "In-universe" the only tags that get rid of the YMMV thing on the edit page? Do those need to be linked to Invoked Trope and In-Universe, or does just the word itself work?

edited 24th Feb '11 7:47:12 AM by JapaneseTeeth

Getting a lot of sticky threads in here, but I went ahead and pinned it (and fixed the title).

What do we do if there's a Trope Namer section and one of them is YMMV?

Just list it. Details might go in YMMV though.

You can use [[color:white in-universe]] to add the words in-universe at the end and get rid of the flag.

^Does adding comments work to do that as well?

I have a question about this. Does shipping count as YMMV on a Fan Fic page?

Shipping within the work is fine, but you need to use the objective tropes, like Ho Yay, not their subjective versions like Ho Yay Shipping. Other "in universe" subjectives can be marked as such.

Is it the author of the fanfic doing the shipping or fans shipping in the fanfic?

^ If it's in-universe, it would be the characters.

...So the second one. I misread, sorry.

edited 25th Feb '11 2:02:44 PM by KrisMahai

Shipping in a fanfic is sort of a meta example. It's not shipping in-universe for the fanfic (usually), but it is shipping for some other published work. It represents fan/audience reaction in written form.

Offhand, I'd say it goes on the page.

edited 25th Feb '11 11:14:30 AM by ccoa

New markup added: Putting [[invoked]] on the line will suppress the orange bullet and the word 'invoked' itself will not show up. No more trying to figure how out to wedge 'in-universe' or 'invoked' into the sentence.

edited 2nd Mar '11 11:33:26 AM by FastEddie

And There Was Much Rejoicing

Excellent, thanks!

Thanks Fast Eddie.