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#2826: Apr 29th 2015 at 11:26:41 AM

You can read about the creation of Sanctuary and mankind in the lore books found in Acts IV and V, but if you want a quick summary:

The three core aspects of creation are the Silver Arch (the remains of Anu), the Burning Hells (the remains of Tathamet), and the Worldstone (Anu's eye or something, I forget exactly).

The Worldstone was originally kept in Pandemonium, the eternal battleground between Heaven and Hell. An angel, Inarius, and a demon, Lilith, became disillusioned by the Eternal Conflict and conspired with some other angels and demons to steal the Worldstone. Using it, they created a new realm, which they called Sanctuary.

Inarius and Lilith, along with their followers, bred; the resulting progeny were the proto-humans, Nephalem, with fantastic powers. When the other angels and demons discovered what had happened, they got pissed off. Inarius was tortured in the Burning Hells and eventually repented. I think that Lilith was slain, but I don't remember.

The Angiris Council voted on the fate of the Nephalem and barely resolved to allow them to live, but the Worldstone was altered to suppress their powers. The resulting "normal" humans spread out and populated Sanctuary.

At the end of Diablo II: Lord of Destruction, Tyrael shatters the Worldstone, which Baal had begun to corrupt. The result of this, besides the complete destruction of Mount Arreat, is the undoing of its suppression effect. This allows the rise of a new generation of Nephalem, of which the player characters in Diablo III are representatives.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#2827: Apr 29th 2015 at 11:28:39 AM

The entire reason the Eternal Conflict has moved to Sanctuary is also because (as you find out as the player) if humanity reawakens their powers again they can tip the balance in the favor of one side or the other.

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#2829: Apr 29th 2015 at 12:27:00 PM

I wonder why they choose Inarius for this role in the expanded story, because wasn't he just a courageous angel who made a Stupid Sacrifice in the original Diablo fluff?

"But don't give up hope. Everyone is cured sooner or later. In the end we shall shoot you." - O'Brien, 1984
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#2830: Apr 29th 2015 at 12:35:39 PM

They had to pick someone? It's hardly the first time that Blizzard has given expanded roles to minor characters in revised lore.

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#2831: Apr 29th 2015 at 12:39:36 PM

True, but at the same time I don't recall there being a Lilith. I'm not sure if there's any more expanded fluff about him that makes him a bigger player in the heavens, I just remember his role being a hero of mention in the first game and then a traitor boss in the second.

edited 29th Apr '15 12:42:06 PM by Rotpar

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#2832: Apr 29th 2015 at 12:41:17 PM

I may be getting the sequences out of order, but I recall Inarius being given his role in lore well before Diablo III was released.

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#2833: Apr 29th 2015 at 12:47:18 PM

Found the problem: I was confusing Izual for Inarius.

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#2834: Apr 29th 2015 at 12:50:12 PM

I thought that might be it. Izual was Tyrael's lieutenant, who made an ill-advised attempt to assault the Burning Hells, was captured, and was turned against the High Heavens.

edited 29th Apr '15 12:50:47 PM by Fighteer

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seekquaze1 Since: Jun, 2010
#2835: Apr 29th 2015 at 3:03:57 PM

Well Justice and Hope are hardly qualities too, right? They're more like noble emotions and concepts, I would think.

They are qualities one can cultivate. To become more just you can practice exercises that calm you down and look at things from the perspective of others. Instead of jumping to conclusions, you can try to put yourself in the other person's shoes to see if they might have a point so you can reach a fair and balanced position or judgement. For hope, if a person has a tendency to look on the negative side of things they an engage in exercises to cultivate a more positive mindset. Such as listing all the things they have to be grateful for in life and focus on that. Or instead of dwelling only on the new focus on how things change and can get better by hearing or reading of the lives of people who have suffered tragedies only to rise better then ever and to draw inspiration from that.

Fate is the tricky one because it is not something one can cultivate. It is more a fact of the universe. The only way I guess one can is to try and live life as more orderly and predictable.

Looking over definitions of virtues I realize Itherael represents a slightly different definition than the other four archangels. The other four represent moral qualities that should be admired and can be cultivated. From order's perspective, Fate is a virtue, or admirable quality/property/trait possessed by order but it is not something one can cultivate.

edited 29th Apr '15 3:12:43 PM by seekquaze1

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#2836: Apr 29th 2015 at 3:26:50 PM

Which is probably why Itherael seems to take a passive role in events; he would by nature be the most "neutral" of the Archangels.

It's not like there are any Evils running around saying, "Hey, let's all read from the Scroll of Fate and do what it says."

edited 29th Apr '15 3:27:24 PM by Fighteer

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#2837: May 1st 2015 at 7:46:45 PM

So I found a Kridershot today, and holy fucking hell that bow is ridiculous. Especially when paired with a full set of Unhallowed Essence and the Bastions of Will.

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#2838: May 1st 2015 at 9:31:03 PM

So jelly.

Although Krider isn't meant to work with Bastions (but that might have changed recently).

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#2839: May 2nd 2015 at 3:53:24 PM

It does, I use EA and it procs the effect for +50% damage from using a generator skill.

edited 2nd May '15 3:53:32 PM by MarkVonLewis

disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#2840: May 2nd 2015 at 10:39:50 PM

Neat! Though it's tough to give up Pride's Fall...

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#2841: May 6th 2015 at 8:23:42 PM

Jesus Christ, they either need to scrap Waller or give it a fucking cooldown.

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#2842: May 9th 2015 at 10:53:54 PM

So I'm showing interest in doing Diablo 3. My question is, if I immediately buy Reaper of the Souls, do I get the vanilla contents?

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#2843: May 9th 2015 at 11:31:51 PM

[up] No. If you Read the Fine Print, Reaper of Souls requires the vanilla content to be installed prior. By the way, my battle tag is NinjaAids#1415, but I haven't been playing in a long while. Feel free to add me though! wink

edited 9th May '15 11:32:13 PM by aNinjaWithAIDS

These two may literally be more bark than bite, but they are no less tenacious than everyone else.
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#2844: May 10th 2015 at 12:21:54 AM

Not sure, I'm probably just there to get to the story and the 'feel' of Diablo. But if you're into Heroes Of The Storm, I could do that.

My brother used to install Reaper of the Souls, though. The problem is just I haven't gotten around buying the license for any Diablo 3 stuffs in my own account. That's why I asked. So I still need both licenses even if Reaper of the Souls have been installed?

aNinjaWithAIDS Mario's not the only Wonder here. from Animal Town Since: Dec, 2011 Relationship Status: Puppy love
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#2845: May 10th 2015 at 1:44:52 AM

It's a bit more complicated than that. The issue here is having your own serial-keys which is the case for both the vanilla and the expansion. If your brother already assigned his keys onto his account, you will still need to get your own copies and assign their keys to your account if you and your brother ever want to play together.

edited 10th May '15 1:45:17 AM by aNinjaWithAIDS

These two may literally be more bark than bite, but they are no less tenacious than everyone else.
disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#2846: May 10th 2015 at 12:45:27 PM

Finally got a Kridershot! Fun!

Also spent a whole heap of blood shards on my monk, who now has the first set bonus of Thousand Storms (I also handed over to her the Focus and Restraint I had stashed). Those four items combined with Depth Diggers took my Monk from barely handling Torment 1 to cruising through Torment 5!

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#2847: May 10th 2015 at 2:33:09 PM

I guess my powerleveling game is pretty on point. I made a new Monk at about 12:30 last night and he hit 70 by 5.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#2848: May 10th 2015 at 5:06:25 PM

disrupter: congrats! Yeah it's a badass bow. I'm looking for an ancient one now with my DH.

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#2849: May 14th 2015 at 11:27:45 AM

Debunking the Cowspiracy

Hey, folks, there is definitely not an invasion of bardiche-wielding cows coming between May 15 and 21.

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MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#2850: May 14th 2015 at 12:51:49 PM

Well I was hoping for a community buff like increased xp or legendary drop rate for the 3 year anniversary, but this? Feh, I'll stick to my rift-running.


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