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Well, most of the world is still religious so that view is a minority.

There's also the misconception that religion and science are mutually exclusive. Religious people are somehow unable to comprehend climate change and weather because religion(?)

Seriously my cousin's a devout Catholic and an evolutionary biologist.

Mostly because of Right-Wing media figures who say stuff like "evolution is a lie by the LIBERULS!" and declaring no true Christian would care about that fake science found in the classroom.

@ Wildcard

Also the bemoaning of sodomy law was back back in 2003, which actually has nothing to do with his current stances. He's moved away from the more James Dobson like thinking he had back in those days. Also the "evolution is a lie" thing is actually a misrepresentation of some circles on the matter. It's more like creationists are skeptical of what they call macro-evolution.

Also concerning those laws a lot of misinformation is based on those issues concerning a lot of religious people's stance on them. A lot of times it's for declining events they might not agree with, and a lot of them are not for firing or throw out practicing gay people in secular institutions. Also if you are talking about gay marriage that was before the 2015 decision.

edited 13th Sep '17 1:22:37 PM by firewriter

I kinda doubt it dude. He portrays himself that way and he is kind in many ways. But I've read his website before and he never expressed regret, or said anything against his old self. Unless, there is something I'm missing, (possible but I kinda doubt it). I think he probably doesn't regret it and would probably jump to vote for their reinstatement. Which is pretty disgusting honestly.

Secondly, I could find a bunch of popular figures who will say they don't believe in evolution and then say something that shows they don't understand it.Ever hear of Kirk Cameron's buddy Ray Comfort who thought a banana was a perfect example of god? Or the peanut butter argument? Also, fact is a lot of religious people even on their own controlled networks watch and agree with people who want to harm gay people or protested gay marriage, with some overlap and no being "before 2015" doesn't make it okay

Not really misrepresentation since a whole bunch of religious right like those things, unless your going "how dare you quote what I actually said!"..

A lot of things are assumptions about his character, and it comes from a colored view. Also saying he would reinstate it is again assuming out of no proof except his opinions from a decade ago. Also obviously when it comes to certain issues people are going to assume the worst, especially when they are the opposite spectrum.

A lot of times from a lot of non-conservative Christians they can do stuff that can misinterpret what some conservative Christians stand on. They can sometimes quote people, but they still can misinterpret what some of them are saying.

While I agree there are some conservative Christian sites that really extreme, there are others who try to take the moderate stance on issues. As much as people rag on Christianity Today, it actually has gotten more nuanced and actually is not just a vehicle of the Christian Right.

edited 13th Sep '17 4:14:12 PM by firewriter

I grew up a conservative Christian, and while I never paid attention to televangelists and their ilk I was certainly indoctrinated with young earth creationism including a complete disregard for evolution as well as a much more hostile view of queer people than the "hate the sin, love the sinner" cop-out. In the years since I left behind my conservatism and now being heavily invested in queer activism I still see the religious right consistently bashing us. Hell going back earlier this year to when the Gloucester County School Board v. G.G. case was sent to SCOTUS I find 9 briefs amici curiae in those published 10 January filed by explicitly religious right organizations (one of which was filed jointly with a "radical" feminist group in yet another instance of TERFs buddying up with conservatives and proving how non-radical they actually are) against transgender rights. Systemically, conservative Christians show a seething hatred for those of us who are queer, and no amount of sugar-coating and "nuanced" deflection changes that.

We Have a King.

What's Your Father's Name?

So now I have to a project on a religious holiday, and how it relates to Mircea Eliade's ideas of "sacred space" and "sacred time". The professor recommended that we do the project on a holiday we're familiar with, so this project could help us see our own traditions in a new light. So I'll be studying a Catholic holiday. I'm still not sure which one I want to pick though. I don't want to pick something like Christmas or Easter that a lot of other people are probably doing. Hmm....

I think I may do Ash Wednesday

edited 15th Sep '17 6:12:54 AM by Cailleach

Removing the Barriers.

Watch the Conductor.

The Best Portion of All.

Let's Finish the Race.

I think maaaaaybe it's time to stop talking religion with my mom. Not only did she try to claim that the bar codes the army/military/whatever puts on their recruits are the mark of the beast (even if it's not "666") only to prove completely unable to explain how, I'm pretty sure she's also deliberately misinterpreting me when I say that neither of us nor anyone we know will be alive to see Jesus come back.

Oh geez, that sounds frustrating.

The Daily Prayer.

I forgot to mention that when she does fail to explain her stance she basically does the Christian equivalent of "just google it" and tells me to watch all these different pastors I don't care about.

The funny thing is, that the "end is near" folks have been claiming so for decades. Maybe even centuries. To the point where they may accidentally be correct one day in the future. But no one knows when Jesus will return to set up the new creation. Does restarting/renovating the universe count as apocalyptic?

The bit about the military mark being the mark of the Beast doesn't even make sense. Mark of the Beast is supposed to be everyone. Military men aren't "everyone". Like, the verse goes:

Revelation, 13:17-19.

Does she believe a great massive wave of conscription is coming so that rich and poor and free and slave will be included in it?

Yeah, it might be best to just cut your losses and end those talks with your mum unless necessary.

To be fair, I think that the mainstream Christian opinion is that Jesus could return at any point, including right now and any point in the far-flung future. I seriously think that looking out for the signs of His coming and trying to predict it is effort better spent elsewhere, though. Like in the parable of the Ten Bridesmaids, our chief concern is to ensure we're ready for when he does.

edited 22nd Sep '17 5:17:35 AM by GoldenKaos

Sweet and Sour.

Is it? I don't know anyone in my country who seriously expects him to come back in their lifetimes, nor has the Pope been very suggestive about it either. And isn't his second coming supposed to only be after the apocalypse, the mark of the beast thing?

I'm from a very religious community, and the only time I hear the second coming brought up is as this distant, theoretical event. We shouldn't be on our best behavior because Jesus might be coming in our lifetimes, we should be on our best behavior because that's just what Christians do.

To be honest, even though I grew up surrounded by devout Christianity, I had never even heard of a lot of these fundamentalist views until I read about them on the internet. I had to look up the word "rapture" when I first read about it online. And yet there are people who assume that's what all Christians believe.

I'm gonna guess it's an American thing. Damn Puritans.