Alex "Blacklight/ZEUS" Mercer v Jackie "The Darkness" Estacado

But then, so can Jackie.

Can Jackie die?

As much as Alex can.

A problem here is, by my understanding, The Darkness is basically a pretty standard FPS, just with super powers instead of BF Gs. Whereas Prototype is a sandbox game of the "destroy a whole city" variety. So generally, the latter is going to have more clear feats of vast power, simply because "slice a tank in half, then throw the pieces to take down copters" is neither a cutscene nor a boss fight, but a standard repeatable game mechanic.

@ Charlatan: Here's something to bring up: in responce to Estecado's black hole ability, Mercer uses his tentacle... things to lach on to buildings and crawl or run up them by the looks of it. If so he could easily anchor himself to the ground to resist the effects of the black holes, he's probably even strong enough to flee it and surely strong enough to 'plug' it withs say a car or a dumpster.

Hows that for a reason to necro this!

That is acceptable.

Anybody having a problem understanding why Jackie wins should just go read the comics. Alex Mercer was basically The Darkness in a hoodie and with less powers.

Jackie can do all but absorb his enemies, conjure as many minions as he pleases, transform his outer body (he once transformed into a 30 foot tall dragon, another time he grew wings), come back from the dead (twice in the game, atleast once in the comic), and if anyone were to attempt to absorb him they would be mind-raped.

Currently in the comics, Jackie has just learned that he can make the Darkness do literaly whatever he wills it to.

Except that Jackie not only has a tentacle of his own, he can also conjure up minions and use two snake-heads at the same time aswell as his Darkness guns, and that's just the video-game version of him.

Nullchild wins this one I think.

Though Alex Mercer wins in the style department.

Anybody can put a hoody on.

Does Mercer even have anything other than the hoodie/jacket combo thing?

edited 12th Mar '11 12:21:12 PM by NULLcHiLD27

It was a joke.

Though true none the less.

We're not counting comics. Alex survived a nuclear explosion, I doubt Jersey Shore can do that.

And "jersey shore" took a magnum revolver bullet to the mouth and a bomb to the face. Not to mention that in both versions, Jackie still has the Darkness, y'know that dark entity that's existed since before God created light. What's Mercer got that would suprise that thing?

edited 12th Mar '11 12:29:46 PM by NULLcHiLD27

Yeah, but the magnum shot to the face put him down for at least a couple of days (there's a decent timegap between Jackie's suicide and his returning from the Darkness's hell-dimensiony place).

Meanwhile, Mercer (opening cutscene, so at his weakest) get's riddled with assault-rifle fire at close range and is seconds later parkouring around with utter ease.

Having played both games, I'm giving it to Alex 9/10. Jackie is pretty much your standard FPS Badass Normal with a coupe of nasty tricks, whereas Alex at full power is an unquestionable Physical God.

I could see Jackie's black-hole putting Mercer down, but it's kinda hard to gauge- the black-hole (as I recall) didn't send Jackie's foes to another dimension-it just pulled them in and crushed them- it's hard to tell wether that'd be enough to kill Alex (he who can take a hellfire missle to the face, where as one missle from Eddie Shrote's chopper insta-kills Jackie). Basically, Alex is stronger, tougher, faster and Jackie has no sure fire-way of putting him down. Of course, both can (in time) regenerate for death, so it's more of a "down for the 10-count" thing anyway.

Plus, we have no idea what the true extent of Alex's abilities could be. He has literally only just started out.

And though I've not read the comic, I do agree that comic Jackie can probably beat Mercer handily- he's pretty much Green Lantern as Ninties Anti Hero, right?

edited 12th Mar '11 12:43:36 PM by Nemo

I think he's something more like Spawn with Green Lantern properties.

Same goes for videogame Jackie. Who (depending on the company's creativity) could end up closer to his comic version by the end of the next game.

edited 12th Mar '11 12:46:04 PM by NULLcHiLD27

Spawn would tie them together at the necks and do that buttflossing thing with them, like Donald Duck does with a towel.

Unless Spawn became cool at some point, I don't think so

Oh yeah, about Shrote's Chopper, Estacado takes one down with his tentacle in the final level.

edited 12th Mar '11 12:48:40 PM by NULLcHiLD27

I know, but Mercer was taking multiple choppers down in the very first mission of his game. For Jackie, a chopper is a boss-fight level challenge. For Alex, it's an Elite Mook.

I don't think it was ever used as a boss fight (atleast that I remember), just kind of a way to tell you were to go.

Also, that was an elite mook? I don't remember choppers being harder to kill than anything else.

edited 12th Mar '11 12:55:36 PM by NULLcHiLD27

Well, they where tougher than the marines and blackwatch troopers.

But the basic point I'm trying to make still stands- for Jackie, the chopper was a major obstacle, for Alex, multiple choppers where bumps in the road.

I like Jackie, and I liked the game, but he's just outmatched here- Generally, Jackie fought mobsters and other unpowered humans, Alex fought the US military and viral-monstrosities capable of going toe-to-toe with the US military. Alex is the Super Man to Jackie's Doc Savage.

I'm glad you made that Doc Savage pothole or I'd have gad no clue what you were talking about.

But this is basically Superman vs Doc Savage and Doc might as well have a kryptonite power-glove in this situation, see Black-hole ability.

edited 12th Mar '11 1:02:42 PM by NULLcHiLD27

Yeah but it's ambiguous just how effective black-hole would be- it might take him out, or it might just damage him slightly- in which case, Mercer takes Jackie apart before he has a chance to try anything else.

It's not a sure thing either way, but I think we can agree to disagree.

No, agreeing to disagree ends the discussion, and that's boring.

Based on the final attack on the mansion in the end of The Darkness, Jackie can multi-task so Mercer needs to get the lead out, plus there's no telling what effect the Darkness Guns could have and there's the question of Mercer's reaction to Jackie (most other heroes tend to recoil and hesitate upon Jackie's appearance, he even freaked out Superman).

From what I've been reading here Mercer can only survive if there's a piece of him left, whereas (again can only assume based on the comics) Jackie will live unless he has a child.

Would Jackie be the kind of person who would go after Dana?