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TuefelHundenIV Night Clerk of the Apacalypse. from Doomsday Facility Corner Store. Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
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#151: Feb 25th 2011 at 4:58:33 PM

Fact of the matter is they exist and some work out just fine. It is like a lot of things in life, it is not for everyone. Another one of those things you should consider very carefully before doing to avoid causing trouble down the road. But like lots of things folks think they need to just hit the ground running.

edited 25th Feb '11 5:01:35 PM by TuefelHundenIV

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SFNMustDie Since: Dec, 1969
#152: Feb 25th 2011 at 4:59:33 PM

I don't so much think that polyamory shouldn't exist as that it is more likely to create inequality than monoamory (see:most polyamorous societies that have existed).

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#153: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:00:34 PM

@SFN: Make a different thread unless you have some questions about how the lifestyle actually works.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
SFNMustDie Since: Dec, 1969
#154: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:09:24 PM

Do polyamorous societies distinguish between sexual and reproductive relationships?

drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#155: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:14:05 PM

@SFN: The short answer is "I can't answer that", but in longer form..

Poly is too disorganized to have a "society" as you are mentioning it...but in individual relationships the answer is "yes, often": Separating sex into pleasure, love and reproduction is a common three-way line that is drawn, since modern medical technology allows us to draw it.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
SFNMustDie Since: Dec, 1969
#156: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:18:22 PM

I suppose that makes more sense... the kind of polyamory I don't like is the kind where sex is still taboo outside of marriage or for nonreproductive purposes, because that case simply biologically requires the death of some percentage of men and men as a result gaining an authority over women.

edited 25th Feb '11 5:18:59 PM by SFNMustDie

drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#157: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:19:51 PM

@SFN: Ah. I think you are referring to polygamy (multiple marriages) which does have societies and is very different from what we're discussing here.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#158: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:22:15 PM

Granted, there is some overlap, since people who practice the polyamorous lifestyle are more accepting of the idea of multiple marriages.

Just keep in mind that polyamory/polygamy does not automatically mean pseudo-Mormon cults.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
SFNMustDie Since: Dec, 1969
#159: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:22:58 PM

I suppose I've never really thought too hard about the kind of polyamory discussed in this thread, except for a vague contempt for the fact that I will never participate in it.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#160: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:27:00 PM

It's not for everyone, it's simply personal preference.

It's also not gender-specific. People involved in polyamorous lifestyles can be in any number of combinations. One man, multiple women; one woman, multiple men; multiple men and women as a group; all women; all men; etc.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
SFNMustDie Since: Dec, 1969
#161: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:28:53 PM

TBH, I have a feeling that however appealing it sounds, it probably isn't right for me anyways.

DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#162: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:30:27 PM

Fair enough. Like I said, it's not for everyone. smile

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#163: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:47:56 PM

like dual-wielding chainsaws or something. It sounds awesome on paper - Pykrete
So, Communism, Polyamory, and dual-wielding chainsaws - all awesome in theory, but difficult-at-best in practice? Though actually I'm with you; I think poly sounds awesome, I'm just not sure if I could pull it off. Honestly, I think that I would be able to handle my wife sleeping with other guys/girls better than vice versa  *, but she doesn't seem eager to try and I'm not dumb enough to pressure her into it. grin

I've never really thought too hard about the kind of polyamory discussed in this thread, except for a vague contempt for the fact that I will never participate in it. - SFN
Just for clarity here - do have contempt for poly relationships, or are you upset about the fact that you will never have a poly relationship?

@drunks: I don't remember seeing it here, and if it's too prying feel free to non-answer, but I'm curious how many partners you each have  *

and how long you've been seeing them, as well as how much (if any) overlap they have with each other.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#164: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:50:35 PM

@Blue Ninja: Not too many right now, actually. I've got a girl I see occasionally, but it's nothing serious at the moment. Mainly a mutual interest/attraction thing. There is some overlap, but I'm not going to get into details there (this not being Fetishes after all).

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
DrunkGirlfriend from Castle Geekhaven Since: Jan, 2011
#165: Feb 25th 2011 at 5:51:07 PM

@Blue Ninja: We currently don't have any other relationships, but we've had casual sexual partners come and go, with various levels of involvement. For example, right now Drunkscriblerian is having casual sex with a girl on the side, and I'm occasionally involved with her too.

"I don't know how I do it. I'm like the Mr. Bean of sex." -Drunkscriblerian
drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#167: Feb 27th 2011 at 10:43:13 AM

@SFN: I'm confused by your comment. What are you referring to?

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#168: Feb 27th 2011 at 12:04:46 PM

Other people's private and consensual arrangements are none of my business. Still, polyamory ain't my choice. It looks like it's bound to be either a lot of effort or a lot of drama, and I like neither.

Friends with benefits or a standard open relationship offer the same perks without the awkwardness of having to deal amicably with your partner's multiple lovers. I find it dramatically easier to politely ignore such lovers :p.

You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#169: Feb 27th 2011 at 4:06:48 PM

Just how does a 'standard' open relationship differ from polyamory away?

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BlueNinja0 The Mod with the Migraine from Taking a left at Albuquerque Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
The Mod with the Migraine
#170: Feb 27th 2011 at 6:27:01 PM

@SFN: I'm confused by your comment. What are you referring to? - drunkscribblerian
I think he was answering my question to him, a few posts above it; at least, I took it that way at the time he posted it.

That’s the epitome of privilege right there, not considering armed nazis a threat to your life. - Silasw
SavageHeathen Pro-Freedom Fanatic from Somewhere Since: Feb, 2011
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#171: Feb 28th 2011 at 1:35:12 AM

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You do whatever you want, your partner does whatever he/she wants. 'S long as you're OK together, you stay together. That's what a standard open relationship is about tongue.

Not having to get involved with your partner's other lovers is the main difference tongue.

edited 28th Feb '11 1:39:03 AM by SavageHeathen

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drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#172: Mar 1st 2011 at 6:02:24 PM

@Blue Ninja: Ah, okay.

@Savage: That's certainly one way to do it. I've tried it and I did not work so well for me, but if you can make it work go for it. Poly is all about writing your own rules as I stated earlier.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~
Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#173: Mar 1st 2011 at 8:42:21 PM

What most people think of when they hear "Open marriage" is something like this:

as opposed to the interlocking relationships like those diagrammed on Triang Relations.

edited 1st Mar '11 8:43:04 PM by Madrugada

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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#174: Mar 1st 2011 at 9:57:50 PM

@drunk: okay so with a 'standard' open relationship, a couple is together but allow to see other people 'on the side'. While yourself and D.G. a have greater level of mutual interaction with each other partners. Am I on the right track? :S

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drunkscriblerian Street Writing Man from Castle Geekhaven Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: In season
Street Writing Man
#175: Mar 1st 2011 at 10:03:14 PM

@Madrugada: you're pretty much right on.

@joey: yes, as long as you're not assuming "mututal interaction" always means sex. Yes, at the moment it sort of does but that's not always going to be the case; mutual interaction means we're all at least friends because in our opinion that makes everything run smoother.

Not that I'm averse to three in a bed or anything.

If I were to write some of the strange things that come under my eyes they would not be believed. ~Cora M. Strayer~

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