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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27051: Oct 8th 2016 at 9:10:48 AM

[up]Only goes to show how much they see Syria as a glorified field test

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KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#27052: Oct 8th 2016 at 10:46:21 AM

[up]Exactly.

Military-industrial complexes are the same anywhere, it seems.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27053: Oct 9th 2016 at 10:31:48 AM

Saudis launched an airstrike on the funeral procession of the father of the Houthi-appointed Interior Minister. 140 killed, thousands upon thousands are currently protesting in front of the UN to get them to launch an independent investigation.

edited 9th Oct '16 10:32:10 AM by FFShinra

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AngelusNox The law in the night from somewhere around nothing Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#27054: Oct 9th 2016 at 10:58:14 AM

For the fucks sake.

Are the Saudis armed forces that fucking stupid? No wait, they are.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#27055: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:05:19 PM

... Wait, what? Attacking a funeral procession?! That's... That's barely less horrible than actually desecrating the guy's grave after he's buried in it!

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#27056: Oct 9th 2016 at 1:10:34 PM

[up]I'd argue is several basements below that. Desecration of body? Check. Desecration of funeral? Check. Dismemberment of those properly attending to the last rights? Check. Loss of own basic human decency? Check.

edited 9th Oct '16 1:11:36 PM by Euodiachloris

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27057: Oct 10th 2016 at 12:25:53 AM

A US warship in the red sea came under fire by missiles from the Yemeni coastline. Thankfully they missed, but coupled with the funeral bombing and the hubbub of US involvement in the Saudi campaign, I feel like Yemen is about to come front and center...........

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Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#27058: Oct 10th 2016 at 3:40:48 AM

No bets: they assumed they were firing on Saudi equipment... most of which is bought from where, again? tongue

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#27059: Oct 11th 2016 at 4:53:57 AM

The Misadventures of Russia and the United States in Syria: Complete Strategy Implosion Edition

The current situation in Syria is the civil war’s most dangerous and arguably tragic phase. Months of U.S.-Russian efforts to arrange a nationwide ceasefire in Syria and set up a military coordination agreement have collapsed spectacularly, leading to venomous recriminations as a Russian-backed coalition renewed its assault on Aleppo.

edited 11th Oct '16 4:54:21 AM by TerminusEst

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KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#27060: Oct 11th 2016 at 6:55:25 AM

[up]I wouldn't call this mess a "strategy implosion," though, since the US never had a functional strategy in the first place and Russia honestly doesn't care about ending this war.

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#27061: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:28:58 PM

I thought Russia wanted the war to end fairly quickly? Long-term, it's a political liability, not hurting their standing at home now, but that could change so rapidly given the fog of war.

Silasw A procrastination in of itself from a handcart heading to Hell Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#27062: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:36:36 PM

It's a good testing ground for equipment, plus the longer it goes on the more in debt to Russia the Syrian Regime becomes.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27063: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:42:30 PM

That and they are essentially using the British handbook on How to Colonize a Wartorn Nation step by step in Latakia and Tartus provinces. They may not want all of Syria, but they want those two.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#27064: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:44:43 PM

Separate thing, I was looking at an antique globe from the 40s and it had a subdivision of French Syria for the Druze, a little east of Damascus.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#27065: Oct 12th 2016 at 7:45:50 PM

Jabal al-Druze province roughly corresponds to that I believe.

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#27066: Oct 13th 2016 at 6:26:55 AM

The Houthi's fired a second anti ship missile salvo at USS Mason. In response the US launched Tomahawks at three radar sights in Yemen.

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FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27067: Oct 13th 2016 at 7:08:01 AM

While nice for the US Navy, Obama really should perhaps extracate the US from the Yemen conflict.

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#27068: Oct 13th 2016 at 7:56:52 AM

"Perhaps"? Dude needs to back out quickly. I have the impression that Obama tends to slip out when a crisis occurs. His foreign policy is much more successful in non-crisis situations.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27069: Oct 13th 2016 at 8:46:22 AM

I was understating it, but yes.

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majoraoftime Immanentizing the eschaton from UTC -3:00 Since: Jun, 2009
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#27070: Oct 13th 2016 at 9:39:06 AM

I think I'd rather the US prosecute the war in Yemen than the Saudis – at least the Americans are likely to stop while there are Shia left alive.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27071: Oct 13th 2016 at 9:58:39 AM

Can't win the war from the air period. Neither side has the ground forces to occupy the other, and the foreign backers on either side won't commit. US being involved or not is immaterial to that except in that there likely won't be as ridiculous headlines as the funeral bombing.

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Krieger22 Causing freakouts over sourcing since 2018 from Malaysia Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm in love with my car
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#27072: Oct 13th 2016 at 10:02:40 AM

I must admit I saw way less outrage over the funeral bombing than the Kunduz hospital... Spectreing?

The US leading an intervention and telling the coalition to stand down is really unlikely for the reasons mentioned. Probably won't happen next year either regardless of whoever wins in November.

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KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#27073: Oct 14th 2016 at 3:25:12 PM

Well, the difference between the Kunduz incident and the Saudis' funeral bombing is that the former was performed by a country that isn't commonly thought of as completely psychotic and just as stupid.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#27074: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:12:10 AM

There are reports that Dabiq is poised to fall. It's not much of a stronghold, but anyone reading this thread will recall just why it is important to Daesh.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#27075: Oct 15th 2016 at 10:14:31 AM

Are their social media accounts ranting and raving about how the end is nigh/their final victory is imminent?

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