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Incomprehensible Snowclone Title: BFM get usage counts

 1 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 5:20:49 AM from Lost in Austin
What does the "M" stand for?

If you said anything other than Movie, then you might want to consider helping me find a better name for this trope.

Currently proposing Epic Blockbuster as those seem to be the two requirements: it must be epic in scope, and a big-budget, big-name movie.

edited 20th Jan '11 5:21:13 AM by BlackWolfe

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
2, 841 inbounds. Great masses of people are accepting this title.

And Epic Blockbuster souds a bit too much like Summer Blockbuster, that would invite Trope Decay for any blockbuster. Most of them are described as "epic", but the point is that these fims are primarily popularized by their epicness, both in marketing and in word of mouth.

edited 20th Jan '11 5:39:53 AM by EternalSeptember

 3 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 5:39:13 AM from Lost in Austin
[up]Are they? They're finding the page, but is it what they're looking for?
But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
[up] It excludes google searches, so these are only examples where someone intentionally gave a link for others to visit.

edited 20th Jan '11 5:41:06 AM by EternalSeptember

 5 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 5:50:01 AM from Lost in Austin
2000 inbound links is a fair number, but that doesn't make the title any more meaningful. You see my problem, I hope. I just feel it could do with a better name. The use of "epic" to mean "really good" is a pet peeve of mine, depending on context, so I can see your point about my suggested title. It's something that probably wouldn't be as big an issue as you think, though, as the trope description is pretty damned clear.

edited 20th Jan '11 5:50:12 AM by BlackWolfe

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
I don't think it needs a rename, but maybe a simple redirect of Big Fucking Movie (or Big Effing Movie? not sure if we allow profanity in trope names.)

There doesn't seem to be much misuse, at least by TV Tropes standards.
 7 shimaspawn, Thu, 20th Jan '11 6:43:25 AM from Here and Now Relationship Status: In your bunk
Big Freaking Movie would be the correct redirect.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.

-Philip K. Dick
Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl
[up]Yeah, that does make more sense.
 9 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 7:11:39 AM from Lost in Austin
At least I'd know what the hell that means. If we're not supposed to have initialized redirects, how the hell do we have initialized trope names? That's my main beef here.
But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Ecce Homo Superior
This has been brought up before, and I'm surprised it hasn't been changed.
(it's David Bowie)
 11 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 7:21:37 AM from Lost in Austin
Personally, I'm in favor not of a redirect, but a rename. Big Freaking Movie would work, since that's what BFM stands for (since we don't want TV Tropes to turn into a Cluster F-Bomb), and we could leave BFM as the redirect. I guess.

edited 20th Jan '11 7:21:53 AM by BlackWolfe

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
 12 Deboss, Thu, 20th Jan '11 7:31:25 AM from Awesomeville Texas
I see the Awesomeness.
Add Big Freaking Movie as a redirect. At two thousand incoming, I'd need to see serious misuse to get that angry at it.
Should the redirect maybe go the other way? It's not a huge difference, the inbound links would still work and the title at the top of the page would actually be comprehensible.
 14 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 7:35:43 AM from Lost in Austin
Redirect added. Still think BFM and Big Freaking Movie should trade places, tho.

And ninjed on part two of that post.

edited 20th Jan '11 7:36:02 AM by BlackWolfe

But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
 15 Madrugada, Thu, 20th Jan '11 7:47:45 AM Relationship Status: In season
BFM as Big Freaking Movie doesn't even appear on the Free Dictionary's list of 33 commonly used meanings of the acronym. To further complicate things, Big Furry Monster is #13, Big Fat Meanie is #17 and Big Freaking Mallet is #21.

Big Freaking Sword is also missing from the list of 38 common meanings for BFS. Big Freaking Gun, on the other hand, is #14 of 24 for BFG.

I agree that the redirect should go the other way; the acronym simply isn't in wide use the way we're using it.

edited 20th Jan '11 7:48:58 AM by Madrugada

'He strutted across the bedroom, his hard manhood pointing the way' sounds like he owns a badly named seeing-eye dog. 'Sit, Hard Manhood!
Really, the only title that can claim protection for the acronum is BFG, the original pre-existing term. BFS might squeek by on a combination of Grandfather Clause and the fact that it's at least related. Everything else, we have rules against initialisim for a reason.

(And BFG only just squeeks around getting nailed for work-title conflict because the Rhold Dahl book is The BFG/

edited 20th Jan '11 7:57:51 AM by Elle

 17 Tony Muhplaah, Thu, 20th Jan '11 8:12:11 AM from Tony, Wisconsin
Brother of Favio
I'd say it needs a rename. It's a Snowclone of the BFG, BFS and BFB, but it doesn't have much in common with them: It's not about a weapon, it's not the same definition of "big" (actual size vs popularity), and in my opinion it doesn't really have the same connotations with the "F" in the middle either. Rename is needed.

Cure Candy
I wouldnt mind renaming all the Initial tropes to something related with Initials still as redirects (not bothering to go though the wicks)
Ecce Homo Superior
What's wrong with just calling it "Epic Movie" and putting the Selzer And Friedberg film into a Film namespace? That's the usual term for this type of film, after all.
(it's David Bowie)
 20 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 8:56:11 AM from Lost in Austin
While I like that — that's exactly what it is, after all — it would mean hunting down all the references to that particular collection of pop culture references passing as jokes movie and fixing them.
But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Cure Candy
[up][up] Epic Movie is a title of a film and we dont like tropes and works to have the same title things get messy.

To pothole the actual movie you would have to type Film / Epic Movie (without spaces) every single time.

edited 20th Jan '11 9:03:58 AM by Raso

Ecce Homo Superior
[up]But the film is named after the term, not the other way around.

[up][up]Good point. I can understand if there's little enthusiasm to do that.
(it's David Bowie)
 23 Dragon Quest Z, Thu, 20th Jan '11 12:05:41 PM from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
BTW, if we rename this, we can still keep the abbreviation as a redirect and thus keep the inbound links, the same as when we renamed some other tropes. We renamed "The Law of Bruce" to The Villain Makes the Plot, but still kept the old name as a redirect, even though the old name had loads of inbound links.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
 24 BlackWolfe, Thu, 20th Jan '11 3:40:56 PM from Lost in Austin
The point of killing snowclones is to kill them dead. Which means that if it gets a full rename instead of "Big Freaking Movie", the old name will likely be cutlisted after a while.
But soft! What rock through yonder window breaks? It is a brick! And Juliet is out cold.
Only Sane Fox
How about Overblown Movie?
Accidental mistakes are forgivable, intentional ones are not.

Alternative Titles: BFM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the title will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative titles.
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