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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#1: Jan 16th 2011 at 4:41:33 AM

So, what is free love, and are we practicins it right now IRL? And what do some people find wrong with Free Love?

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#2: Jan 16th 2011 at 5:56:29 AM

I beleive the problem is that some dislike the concept of free love becuase, if I can recall correctly, is something that sounds a lot like promiscuity and polyamory. A lot of our societies today are based on "you can love one person and be with them for as long as that love lasts" sort of system.

And being in a relationship with multiple people is baaaaaaaad. The Bible says so.

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#3: Jan 16th 2011 at 8:18:45 AM

I don't see how Free Love excludes monogmamy. It's a choice.

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Diamonnes In Riastrad from Ulster Since: Nov, 2009
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#4: Jan 16th 2011 at 8:38:45 AM

I'm blaming this on the same thing I blame so many other problems on: Abrahamic religions controlling society.

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Pentadragon The Blank from Alternia Since: Jan, 2001
#5: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:22:00 AM

Disregard. I thought free love was something else. Oops.

edited 16th Jan '11 9:25:32 AM by Pentadragon

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#6: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:27:10 AM

^ Considering the definition of free love is "The belief in or practice of sexual relations without marriage and without formal obligations", Abrahamic religions tend to not support such behavior.

Edit: Never mind then.

edited 16th Jan '11 9:28:36 AM by snailbait

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#7: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:35:59 AM

@Diam: counterexample: Japan. And most of non-abrahamic humanity for that matter.

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#8: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:52:00 AM

I guess possessiveness is most likely the reason. It's totally okay if you want to have a one-night stand, but if your partner's doing it then CATASTROPHIC COURTSHIP ERROR. I think the biggest problem with any marriage or similar institution is the idea that you'll be in love with the other person for the rest of your life and they will be too, which is pretty unrealistic.

This makes me want to go on about how SCIENCE! is so great because it tells you not to get attached to your own theories, no matter how much work you put into them. But I digress.

BalloonFleet MASTER-DEBATER from Chicago, IL, USA Since: Jun, 2010
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#9: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:54:50 AM

Polygamy gets....confusing. Maybe the Abrahamics (Well mainly christianity and modern judaism, but Islam LIMITED the amount of wives people have and most Muslims dont want to saddle themselves with the annoying burden of that - the american saying 'one wife is enough' comes up) banned p0olygamy and whatnot due to the confusion and sheer drama that would cause. Well that and how excess males mess up a society's demographics.

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#10: Jan 16th 2011 at 9:55:04 AM

In answer to the subject question, "free love" is mindless, animalistic self-gratification.

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#11: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:08:19 AM

"The term free love has been used since at least the 19th century to describe a social movement that rejects marriage, which is seen as a form of social bondage, especially for women."

How is this mindless or self-gratifying?

RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#12: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:14:50 AM

[up][up][up]Only rich dudes do it because they are able to

  • Provide for their bitcheswives and the babies they pump
  • Have a sufficient gradient of power that they can impose their will upon all of the wives and do exactly as they want.

A polyperson MARRIAGE that is also EGALITARIAN is a freaking HASSLE.

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#13: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:20:42 AM

Free love is fine so long as you're not stupid enough to get pregnant or diseases. Or pass along either.

BalloonFleet MASTER-DEBATER from Chicago, IL, USA Since: Jun, 2010
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#14: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:24:24 AM

Only rich dudes do it because they are able to

Uh, not IN AMERICA dude

edited 16th Jan '11 10:24:39 AM by BalloonFleet

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Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#15: Jan 16th 2011 at 10:25:13 AM

Presumably he was answering your mention of Islam.

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#16: Jan 16th 2011 at 11:26:17 AM

I was. Although I meant all polygamy in general. Poor people can't be polygamous, it just makes no sense, how do they feed all those people?

edited 16th Jan '11 11:26:28 AM by RawPower

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#17: Jan 16th 2011 at 11:33:49 AM

And what do some people find wrong with Free Love?
The "free" part. Freedom scares people. Makes them think of anarchy and chaos. Some people see slippery slopes leading to the collapse of society around every corner.

Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
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#18: Jan 16th 2011 at 11:35:29 AM

^^Depends on what you mean by «poor». Historically, peasant farmers could support a dozen kids at least. Though lack of hygiene and medicine -> child mortality helps.

edited 16th Jan '11 11:35:44 AM by Tzetze

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#19: Jan 16th 2011 at 11:38:29 AM

That concept sounds deeply unconstitutional.

"We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

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#20: Jan 16th 2011 at 12:26:26 PM

Can anybody find me a verse in Scripture where polygamy is condemned or implied to be condemned? And do not show me the verse about bishops having only one wife.

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#22: Jan 16th 2011 at 12:39:30 PM

What scares me about free love is that in many a Free-Love Future, a variety of factors (lack of social importance put on sex, a feeling that everyone deserves sex with everyone else, or just blatant mind control or social engineering), rape is common and uncontroversial.

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#23: Jan 16th 2011 at 12:40:46 PM

Sex != Love Also, love is never free.

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#24: Jan 16th 2011 at 12:42:17 PM

Come on, you know full well that the term "free love" is almost universally used to mean free sex-and in many a "Free-Love Future", actual love is removed from the equation altogether.

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RawPower Jesus as in Revelations from Barcelona Since: Aug, 2009
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#25: Jan 16th 2011 at 12:43:03 PM

[up][up] One could discuss how evil non-violent rape is (yes, you can rape someone without physically hurting them). Some data would point that it depends on many factors, but mostly the victim and how they are mentally prepared to handle it. Some will find it an annoying inconvenience, others will be traumatized for life.

edited 16th Jan '11 12:44:32 PM by RawPower

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