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Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#5401: Aug 7th 2014 at 11:35:51 PM

[up]Again, it is not supposed to be applied to specific cases. That is not what the test proves. But the test is useful to underline a trend.

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#5402: Aug 8th 2014 at 12:57:27 AM

But you can only run the test by applying it to specific cases. It's not some broad statistical test that can be applied to a large population without regard to individual cases; it has to be applied film by film.

Plus, idiots do apply it to individual cases, and draw conclusions from that.

It started out as a good joke, and has become a bad joke.

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#5403: Aug 8th 2014 at 1:17:10 AM

[up]Okay, maybe saying it shouldn't be applied in individual cases was badly spoken of me. It is not technically true as you do, indeed, need to apply individually in a case by case scenario. The conclusions, however, only can be driven from the collective. And the conclusion is what a test is about. In the individual the Bachel Test is meaningless, but in the whole, it is not.

Sure, idiots draw conclusions on individual cases and that sucks, I agree. What I am saying is that other people dismiss the whole test because of said idiots and that is also shit. Don't reduce it to a bad joke. It is as obnoxious as making it the ultimate test of feminism.

PS:You can still use the Bachel test to analyses individual works if you want. But more as a stepping stone than as a definitive answer. If you are looking on individual works, simply noting if it fails or passes is not enough. You would need to look deeper.

edited 8th Aug '14 1:53:10 AM by Heatth

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#5404: Aug 8th 2014 at 1:53:10 AM

Do I have to point out that it was created as a joke?

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#5405: Aug 8th 2014 at 1:55:34 AM

[up]No. But something that was created as a joke doesn't mean it is only a joke and that it wasn't meant to be thought critically.

The original joke was about criticizing the obvious lack of representation of women on media. The punchline is that there is less movies than you would expect that passes the test. Making a joke about how useless that test is is a completely different thing.

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#5406: Aug 9th 2014 at 1:51:30 AM

New comics are up, by the way. SotR has an obvious volume-starter, Ma3 has a particular plot thread set explicitly in motion.

edited 9th Aug '14 11:48:51 PM by Spindriver

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#5407: Aug 9th 2014 at 3:58:40 PM

Actual link to SOTR. Ma3 is NSFW atm.

Zoe is an infinitely better boss and character than Domenico.

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#5408: Aug 12th 2014 at 1:48:02 AM

The Dilly as a young boy.

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#5409: Aug 12th 2014 at 4:19:41 AM

DEPTH!

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#5410: Aug 12th 2014 at 4:31:14 AM

wild mass guessDillon responds to these awkward years by never being afraid again, resulting in him becoming The Unfettered, at least sexuality wise.

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#5411: Aug 12th 2014 at 5:02:10 AM

I don't mind that strip at all, so long as it's just setting up for something interesting in the present. The implied back-story is such a massive cliche that we really, really don't need another frame of it.

Oh yeah, and there's also Sandra on the Rocks goes Odd Couple.

edited 12th Aug '14 5:02:37 AM by Spindriver

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#5413: Aug 12th 2014 at 1:39:31 PM

Hunh? You mean the character Young!Dillon calls "Ray"?

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#5414: Aug 13th 2014 at 4:25:33 AM

Yes, presumably that's his name.

Effectively safe for work, but barely. I forgot Didi dated Erik. She also seems to remember names now.

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#5415: Aug 13th 2014 at 5:23:50 AM

She's always remembered names, more or less. Her problem was tying them to faces.

Plus, having her remember the names now sets up this gag.

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#5416: Aug 13th 2014 at 5:28:39 AM

Character names becoming keywords doesn't automatically imply plot importance, by the way. There are multiple names on the keyword list for Ma3 with only one appearance each. I suspect it's just future-proofing, in case the writers decide to re-use the character later.

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#5417: Aug 13th 2014 at 7:02:50 AM

Heh, Jung only has one. I wonder what may happen to these people.

There were cases before they future proofed that they went back and added to.

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#5418: Aug 13th 2014 at 7:18:40 AM

Junghan, on the other hand, has 34. And not everyone on that list is people. One or two of those tags were downright frivolous, even.

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#5419: Aug 14th 2014 at 2:33:50 AM

New Ma3 strip, SFW because head and shoulders only. Physician, heal thyself - and maybe do something about that bi-curiosity.

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#5420: Aug 14th 2014 at 11:53:42 AM

Poor Kiley. [lol] She seems poised to bite off more than she can chew, doesn't she?

... Then again, maybe she already did back when she decided to use Yuki as a guinea pig for her psychology paper.

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#5421: Aug 14th 2014 at 12:09:36 PM

She's a classic Mood-Swinger. She tends to flip between wild overconfidence and panic.

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#5423: Aug 15th 2014 at 10:01:41 AM

In the second panel it looks like she's turned into Dillon with glasses.

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#5424: Aug 15th 2014 at 10:03:58 AM

That's what's happening. She's turning into Dillon in her dream.

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#5425: Aug 15th 2014 at 10:06:42 AM

Thought so.

Oh, and then the positions are weird when she wakes upup because she's actually acting out the other part.

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