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Translations, reportedly. I make no guarantees about their accuracy, since their provenance is "I copied them from a post that said they were copied from reddit."
Madoka and Homura: I wonder what ‘happiness’ is.
まどか「それは、5月の麗らかな陽射し。」
Madoka: It is the bright sunbeams of May.
ほむら「それは、温かな家族。」
Homura: It is a warm family.
まどか「それは、朝ご飯の目玉焼き。」
Madoka: It is sunny-side up eggs for breakfast.
まどか&ほむら「けれど、そのどれもが天国にはないものです。」
Madoka and Homura: But Heaven has none of those things.
まどか&ほむら「幸せって、何かしら。」
Madoka and Homura: I wonder what ‘happiness’ is.
ほむら「それは、誰かに名前を呼ばれること。」
Homura: It is having your name called by someone.
まどか「それは、誰かの名前を呼ぶこと。」
Madoka: It is calling someone’s name.
ほむら「それは、誰かが自分を想ってくれること。」
Homura: It is someone thinking about you.
まどか&ほむら「それはなにひとつ、神様にはないものでした。」
Madoka and Homura: The Goddess had none of those things.
ほむら「トカゲの女の子は、神様のことがとてもかわいそうに思えてきました。」
Homura: A lizard-girl could not help but take pity on the Goddess.
まどか「こうしてトカゲの女の子は神様をまっぷたつに引き裂いて、その片方を天国から地上へと連れ去ってしまったのです。」
Madoka: And still thinking that, the lizard-girl split the Goddess into two equal halves, and kidnapped one of those halves, taking her from Heaven to the surface of the earth.
ほむら「その残酷なまでに優しい輝き、闇の中で出逢うには……まぶしすぎる。」
Homura: And until that cruelty, that gentle radiance, when it was met in the darkness…was too dazzling.
A「最近猫が多いね。」
A: Lately there’s been a lot of cats around, huh?
B「死んだ猫が混じっているんだって。」
B: They’re mixed in with dead cats.
A「死んだ猫はどうやって見分けるの?」
A: How can you tell they’re dead?
杏子「あたしが許せねえのはな、そういう訳の分かんねえ理由で他人にヤッパを向けるやつだよ。」
Kyoko: I can’t allow this. That person would definitely would turn to someone else in situations like this with unexplained causes. [not sure on this]
さやか「嘘でしょ、どういうこと。なんであたしにこの文字が読めるの?」
Sayaka: That’s impossible, isn’t it? How can this be? Why can I read these characters?
仁美「それはきっと、口止めされているんですわ。魔法のご利益って内緒にしておかないと、効き目が消えてしまうものでしょう。」
Hitomi: I’m they’ve been forbidden to talk about it. If the benefits of magic aren’t kept a secret, perhaps its effects will disappear.
なぎさ「これは何やら陰謀の臭いがするのです。」
Nagisa: For some reason this smells [suspiciously] like a conspiracy.
キュゥべえ「どうして僕が? それこそ、何のメリットもないじゃないか。」
Kyubey: Why am I [here?]?…isn’t there no benefit to this whatsoever?
マミ「あなたもあなたで、誰と一緒の時も隠し事ばっかりね。」
Mami: You too keep secrets from yourself and from whoever you’re with, don’t you? [unsure on this one too]
ほむら「私の邪魔をしようっていうの?」
Homura: Are you saying you intend to get in my way?
Also, Madoka repeats "You don't have to hate anyone, or fight anyone, or..." and trails off, and asked if "all of you, are you fairies too? Will you save me?" at the very end.
I'm surprised Kyubey's still somewhat alive, that's one tough bugger.
Also, from the sounds of things, Homura's Lotus-Eater Machine is starting to break down.
I don't think Homura intended to kill Kyubey.
Just torture him forever.
Madoka: It is the bright sunbeams of May.
Homura: It is a warm family.
Madoka: It is sunny-side up eggs for breakfast.
Madoka and Homura: But Heaven has none of those things.
...Huh.
edited 9th Dec '15 4:27:19 PM by unnoun
Hetumi knows about magic now?
You know, Hitomi gets a lot of attention for a minor character, but I kind of want to see Kyousuke make a contract or something. He certainly has enough angst, and it'd throw Seyiku for a loop...
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The passage basically describes Madoka's life before she became a magical girl and eventually a goddess. Remember that scene in the first episode(?) of the anime where Madoka was eating breakfast with her family?
Maybe Madoka was making other magical girls happy, at the cost of being eternally doomed to not experience happiness herself.
edited 9th Dec '15 4:54:04 PM by Hoki
No, I know.
It's similar to some analysis things I've read and linked to earlier.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
Makes sense. Homura created her new status quo with an emphasis on making things great for her social group without much care to how it affects the overarching setting. "Everybody's happy forever and nothing bad happens," isn't sustainable in the long-term.
Madoka's new status quo was a minor tweak to make things less shitty but still leave the key elements intact, while Homura basically took a knife to the entire system to carve out as much short-term benefit as possible. That was never going to last.
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Which is weird, since Madoka wants to help others, since it gives her a sense of purpose and ultimately, she just wants to help others.
So is the passage Homura's opinion of Madoka's wish?
World's Cutest Direwolf
I don't think there's any contradiction between finding fulfillment in helping people as a concept and missing the joys from when you were a human.
Not optimistic about this. The universe is pretty ripe for exploring different stories than Madoka/Homura, but we seem to be playing around with the same set of characters (including Fucking Nagisa). It makes sense from a financial standpoint, but it's a shame anything fresh is relegated to manga spin-offs.
Also, I'm pretty sure Urobuchi wasn't listed on staff for this, but at the same time, wasn't it implied that a lot of the material came from talks between the Magica Quartet?
How could you not expect the next installment to be about resolving the Madoka/Homura conflict?
It's more that I stopped caring about it since Rebellion (and so has Urobuchi). When first it came out, I really wanted a resolution, but I've increasingly come to regard Rebellion as an unnecessary add-on to the series, so I'm not particularly interested in exploring its story threads.
edited 9th Dec '15 9:12:20 PM by majoraoftime
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To be fair I don't think that people are exactly clamoring for an adaptation of Kazumi Magica.
edited 9th Dec '15 9:23:12 PM by MoreThanBored
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Queen of Good Things, Honest
I'm fine with sticking with these characters, I would just like to pass the narrative focus around a bit.
The first Work was about Madoka. The second was about Homura. It's Sayaka, Kyoko, or Mami's turn to hold the Protagonist Stick.
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Then Sayaka would probably be the best bet, perhaps.
Queen of Good Things, Honest
I think so too. The confrontation she and Homura had at the end of Rebellion feels like it's setting her up to be the main character of the next Madoka work.
She still might not be, but I think that would be a good direction to go in.
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That's fair. Even I feel that The Rebellion Story was done mostly for that reason.
...I would like an adaptation of Kazumi Magica, actually.
edited 11th Dec '15 6:52:03 AM by Zeromaeus
Cut out the fanservice and make the action easy to follow, and I'd like one to.
I kinda just want to see Juubey animated. That character was always interesting. It really played with/against expectations.
I wouldn't mind an adaptation of Oriko. If nothing else, it'd be a chance to tell the story without distracting off-model art.
I'd like to be the first man on the moon.
Or hell, do Different Story. Then you can give Mami and Kyoko one focus story and leave the Rebellion sequel to Sayaka.
Anka Aquila
I wonder how could a proper sequel to Rebellion be made.
For one, since Homura erased or tempered with the memories of all the magical girls, there ought to be an external catalyst that made Madoka regain her power and given that Rebellion borrows some elements of Paradise Lost, all that is left is for a Saint Michael equivalent to finish the story.
Who could that be is up in the air; my (Wild Mass) guess is that it could be someone from the future that Homura has inevitably created, perhaps Tatsuya since he was the only other person who remembered Madoka after her ascension.
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Hmm... After seeing the concept I'm more sure than ever that this movie is going to have at least some parallels to Swan Lake. I'm almost entirely sure the sequence where Madoka is dancing is directly taken from that play.
As there's a shot of a destroyed Mitihara City that resembles a post WN city, I wonder if Gretchen will be an unintended consequence of Homura's actions. Perhaps you cannot seperate all that is pure and good in someone without leaving behind the persons darker impulses.
I do wonder how Hitomi's gonna fit into all of this. And what that huge tower is leading to. And what's Mami's deal, etc.
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