Puella Magi Madoka Magica

@tea party: She's much nicer than the hope god he's used to. Same goes for her love-god Best Friend™.

He's blushing too. Reminds me of a dribble someone wrote on Space Battles where she's having a tea party with Galactus.

Tea parties with Galactus? Makes me wonder if Masoka is Facebook friends with other cosmic beings as well.

How about a cross-over with The Sandman/Lucifer Vertigo continuity? It is a very well done story.

Have a link to Madoka and Galactus' tea party while I'm at it.

edited 24th Mar '15 4:56:17 AM by GoukaRyuu

So with the closing of the Online RPG, is the franchise's popularity starting to die off?

"It's momentum is (rightfully) dying down."

Somebody's still butthurt about the end of Rebellion

Seventh Style is an awful website. Ain't give a damn.

But in all seriousness, apparently the SnK mobage is also shutting down at the same time, so it's probably the parent company either downsizing or going out of business.

edited 26th Mar '15 3:03:13 PM by MoreThanBored

Isn't it a troll website anyway?

At the very least that writer has crap taste. The Madoka RPG really is shutting down though.

You know, I was talking to some people, and they felt that the show's whole "hope cpnquers all" style of ending felt a bit too cliche, and it drug down the show. Me personally, while that kind of ending is a bit overdone, the way it was executed and presented made up for that.

What say you?

You could say that anything's cliche (we are on tvtropes, after all), but I think this is a case of Tropes Are Not Bad. I don't think that there's anything wrong with a happy ending as long as it isn't an asspull, but Madoka's wish is foreshadowed pretty clearly. I think it's a very well-done ending.

Me too.

I think it works. After everything that happened, the characters earned what little they got. Only jerk faces and Homura object to the Tv series ending.

edited 26th Mar '15 8:44:53 PM by HandsomeRob

There's also the fact that the wish came at a great cost and didn't fix absolutely everything. Like real people who work to fix corrupt systems need to sacrifice a lot to get in the position to do so, and the solution is never perfect.

That's the interesting thing about the Rebellion ending, though. In the most basic sense, it's pretty much perfect, but people still don't like it because it feels fake and restrictive of the characters' freedoms.

I don't fully agree with that, and feel like it just goes to show that people can find a way to dislike anything, especially if it feels like a dramatic change. (Just like how people say the original ending was an asspull, even though it got a clear and deliberate buildup, with Kyubey literally telling her she could become a god long before it happened. Failing that, they'll complain that it's too happy, or too unhappy, or too obtuse, or whatever.) But it's still interesting how people reacted to it.

Rebellion's ending is basically a Lotus-Eater Machine, which is generally considered a bad thing.

It is basically posing the question. "is it better to live in blissful denial or harsh reality".

Eventually, Madoka and the rest will have to jack out of The Matrix, like they did when trying to save Homura before.

The show's ending catapulted it from änime I really like"to "my favourite piece of fiction ever"due to how clever and well-executed it was.

Doesn't mean that it was perfect though. For example, I would have liked to see Madoka saving some extraterrestrial and future magical girls.

Still extremely well done.

I can get not wanting to show a never-before-introduced alien critter in a meguca outfit, because that could easily end up goofier looking than they were going for. A meguca on a space station shouldn't have been too hard, though.

The one with the teddy bear, I only remember this detail because i have watched a few reaction videos recently, looked to be in a futuristic city. You also had one girl near volcanoes which could be any time period really, a viking, an Egyptian, Joan of Arc, Anne Frank, an African girl, and a girl who was clearly a Muslim. I think they did okay with showing things.

I'm not saying that they did badly. It's just something i would have tweaked if I could.

If I remember correctly, the Madoka Portable game featured a witch that was stated to come from another planet as a Bonus Boss: http://wiki.puella-magi.net/Itzli

Her being a witch avoids the issue of coming up with an alien race that looks good in a meguca outfit.

They just have Meguca outfits that work around their bodies. It is not like they have to be Cthulhu in a dress made for humans.

The thing is... usually the reason a Lotus-Eater Machine is bad is because it's concealing some less idyllic reality that still needs to be dealt with. Like the Matrix, where humanity is trapped in a simulation by a bunch of robots on a desolate Earth.

Rebellion's ending isn't like that. Spoilered for spoilers and overdone argument: They make it quite clear that this is a tweaked reality, just like Madoka's, not some sort of illusion. The characters aren't any more trapped by this universe than they were by the old one. People insist that it's "unstable" but there isn't much to suggest that (and while Madoka's world may have seemed stable, it apparently wasn't). The witch labyrinth in the first half was a Lotus-Eater Machine, but Homuciferland isn't.

It feels a bit like the trolley problem in that the rise of Homucifer is actually very similar to the rise of Madokami, yet subtle differences make people very strongly favor the latter. Both sacrificed their normal lives for the greater good, messed with people's lives and memories to make the world better, and failed to understand what their totally-not-gay partner who accidentally handed them all this power really wanted. Somehow the way Homura did it feels more intrusive, and therefore evil. I have trouble seeing that. I almost feel like maybe people just don't like having a supreme deity who lacks a flawlessly benevolent personality... even though the only beings she intentionally harms are the Incubators, who kinda deserve it.

There's nothing wrong with not liking the ending. It's a much weirder and less down-to-earth ending than the series had. But I, for one, welcome our new Homucifer overlord. At least until Madoka flips things around again, as The Stinger suggests may happen.

edited 27th Mar '15 6:13:20 PM by Kotomikun