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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#11802: Mar 24th 2024 at 2:49:49 PM

You idiots were warned.

So, the Androids still want credit for saving everyone, but wouldn't listen to someone who could've helped make this fight easier for them.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#11803: Mar 24th 2024 at 3:02:02 PM

I'm pretty sure either I'K'L will turn out to have a time limit or XXI has his own crazy trick to ignore the time stop

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#11804: Mar 24th 2024 at 7:09:01 PM

They really are bratty teens with too much power.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#11805: Mar 24th 2024 at 7:19:26 PM

Eh. I would argue that even if they're morons, they're still buying some time for everyone who's still frozen.

Hopefully, if there are any other characters unaffected, they can do something.

Oh wait. What happened to 16?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#11806: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:49:34 AM

[up]I wouldn't? Again, as I'k'l said, they just (at least tried to) kill their only shot at survival. They're better than if there were no Androids at all, but everyone else would be better off if they weren't there because Yamcha would be more useful.

Don't get me wrong. The future Androids suck. To a point that it's really weird how easily redeemed the present Androids were. But they never showed this level of self-destructiveness.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#11807: Mar 25th 2024 at 1:56:13 PM

It is a little strange, especially since the main timeline Androids are noted to be considerably more powerful by Trunks' estimation. I guess narratively they get activated and then decide "might as well try giving killing Goku a shot" but 17 decides to be quirky and drive to his house, and on the way they steal stuff - namely the van and later 18 takes some clothes - but never hurt anyone because it seems they just kinda don't want to? Then Cell happens, and after that by the time the two of them are back in the picture there are at least two people, three before Trunks left, that could destroy them relatively effortlessly. So I'd imagine they'd have been "even if we wanted to start some shit, we like being alive a lot more".

Maybe it's that with Goku being dead by the time they're activated in Trunks' timeline they're free to do whatever they want, and quickly decide due to no one being strong enough to stop them that what they want to do is destroy civilization as the world knows it. 16 not being there as an amusement/kinda morality pet for the pair of them probably didn't help either.

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#11808: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:30:54 PM

Alternatively, with no advance warning by future time travellers, Gero was able to actually finish his work on the pair, which may include tuning up their "evil" setting.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#11809: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:33:18 PM

And then they still killed him, because Gero just can't program for crap.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#11810: Mar 25th 2024 at 4:20:07 PM

You know I never really thought about the weird implications that brings up in that timeline, since by the time Gero is ready to set the Androids loose to kill Goku, Goku is already dead. Gero would've had to have been aware of that you'd think; he's got those surveillance drones after all. Did he just figure "well, in too deep now, might as well at least mop up the rest" or what? Maybe just too deep in his work to notice that nature did his job for him?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#11811: Mar 25th 2024 at 5:12:07 PM

That is weird.

Then again, Gero is an asshole. I can picture him just doubling down because if he can't kill Goku, then he can still conquer the world.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#11812: Mar 25th 2024 at 8:13:54 PM

wild mass guessMy headcanon is that because Goku was alive in the present timeline when Gero was about to make his big android debut he decided to turn down the evil from 9 to 5 just in the off chance he needs them as an emergency Plan B. They still kill himself because they have every reason to be pissed at him, though. Future Gero doesn't have to worry about that (far as he's concerned) because his nemesis got sick and died. I feel Goku living was the big change for the androids works since it's not like Gero was aware of Future Trunks showing up, even if the Cell Project was

Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11813: Mar 26th 2024 at 1:41:26 AM

You know I never really thought about the weird implications that brings up in that timeline, since by the time Gero is ready to set the Androids loose to kill Goku, Goku is already dead. Gero would've had to have been aware of that you'd think; he's got those surveillance drones after all.

It had to have happened pretty close to Goku's death, since in the main timeline Goku hasn't actually shown any symptoms of the virus until the attack happens.

Trunks speculates that the timing was thrown off by his own time travel, but I can't imagine it throwing things more than a year out.

So yeah, Gero who has spent more than a decade on his plan probably isn't. The Red Ribbon Army still had ambitions of ruling the world, after all.

Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
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#11814: Mar 26th 2024 at 11:49:52 AM

It is a little strange, especially since the main timeline Androids are noted to be considerably more powerful by Trunks' estimation. I guess narratively they get activated and then decide "might as well try giving killing Goku a shot" but 17 decides to be quirky and drive to his house, and on the way they steal stuff - namely the van and later 18 takes some clothes - but never hurt anyone because it seems they just kinda don't want to? Then Cell happens, and after that by the time the two of them are back in the picture there are at least two people, three before Trunks left, that could destroy them relatively effortlessly. So I'd imagine they'd have been "even if we wanted to start some shit, we like being alive a lot more".

Maybe it's that with Goku being dead by the time they're activated in Trunks' timeline they're free to do whatever they want, and quickly decide due to no one being strong enough to stop them that what they want to do is destroy civilization as the world knows it. 16 not being there as an amusement/kinda morality pet for the pair of them probably didn't help either.

Basically the events of the Cell Saga scared Androids straight.

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Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#11815: Mar 27th 2024 at 12:17:30 PM

No Yamcha Pose for you!

Edited by Grahf on Mar 27th 2024 at 3:18:23 PM

Kayeka Since: Dec, 2009
#11816: Mar 27th 2024 at 12:26:13 PM

You can see he's been practising that.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#11817: Mar 27th 2024 at 3:35:50 PM

I love how the crater around the hole is the same damn crater too. It's not possible for someone to get revenge on a meme, but damned if Yamcha ain't trying.[lol]

I'm still wondering where 16 is though. He'd be a helpful ally. More than 17 and 18 at the least.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#11819: Mar 29th 2024 at 5:42:55 PM

If anyone else was immune to I'K'L's time stop, they'd probably assist by now. So apparently it really is only the robots and cyborgs immune to it.

Was Raichi/Hatchiyak ever revived?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#11820: Mar 29th 2024 at 5:47:41 PM

Raichi left.

And even if he was there, he'd probably prioritize killing the Saiyans.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Spirit Pretty flower from America Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Hooked on a feeling
Pretty flower
#11822: Mar 30th 2024 at 12:02:57 PM

True enough.

So unless the Heliorian's armor somehow makes them immune too there might not be any help coming.

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#11823: Mar 30th 2024 at 6:49:17 PM

Raichi would probably approve of what I'K'L is doing

I am guessing XXI is immune to the timestop if only because he's got a bunch of obscure magical BS. wild mass guessI almost wonder if his real plan is actually to take the fighters or the dimensional technology for himself since he already has a set of Dragonballs

shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Somebody get this freaking duck away from me!
#11824: Mar 31st 2024 at 1:22:29 PM

There's definitely something hinky going on with the dimensional travel technology, given Buu duplicated it down to the atom and it still didn't work for him.

Grahf Since: Jan, 2001
#11825: Mar 31st 2024 at 4:36:03 PM

Well, Yamcha seems to be holding his own.

Some of the comments mentioned that in Bardock's visions there's one of Yamcha somewhat arrogantly saying "You've beaten everyone else but you can't touch me. Does that mean I'm strongest out of all the universes?" and this might be the context where it comes up?


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