The New Looney Tunes Show

Except...

The Titans and SBFF shorts are funny

Toonami was a guaranteed success because the April fools day thing skyrocketed AS's viewership from 2000 to 1 million.

The Batman shorts....are the worst thing Aardman has ever done. Point on that one.

This isn't a CN issue. It's an issue of these people givin a job to make something funny, falling on their fucking faces, and usinc "WE'RE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ORIGINAL AND DIFFERENT!!" as an excuse to not be criticized.

Actually, Toonami's ratings have been middling (with exceptions), and [as] readily admits it'd get higher ratings off of Family Guy reruns at that time of night. (Those who tuned in didn't care so much about Toonami as it did Toonami's shows, and aren't interested in what they're airing now simply because it's not DBZ.)

Everyone involved is doing it because it's important to them. Steve Blum is doing TOM's voice for next to nothing.

And the changes haven't been that radical. The shows on now, with the exception of Bleach, are lesser-known or reruns, but the tone is more or less the same. They just have less to censor and shows with a bit more to not censor. (The only non-rerun show I can think of that outright wouldn't fit on daytime Toonami is Deadman Wonderland, most of their other shows would more go over kids heads than traumatize them.)

All told it's a pretty piss-poor example of change for the sake of change.

edited 26th Oct '12 10:32:52 AM by Wackd

And this show isn't?

No, it's a sterling example of change for the sake of change, because it changed it so much and so radically that it became a shadow of its former self. Toonami, meanwhile, is more or less behaving as if 2007-2011 were some weird fever dream and everything's okay except on later and slightly more violent.

CN's creative model works for some shows. Others do not.

I agree with you Wack'd. :) When you think of a revamped Looney Tunes show, there are many things you expect to see. This.... thing... took away all of that. The characters are so far removed from their previous versions that you can just take out their names on the script and you could be convinced they were original characters, there is NO SCORE RUN-NING UN-DER-NEATH THE AC-TION, the pacing is sleepy, the jokes were new in the 80's, and I HATE THE MERRY MELODIES VIDEOS!!!!! As said, Tiny Toons put some spiritual successors into a sitcom story (sometimes) but it stuck with the 7-minute format, the pacing was still frantic, the humor was FUNNY, the situations were stuff you'd only find in cartoons, the dialogue was sharper than most shows on now, the animation was as great as the old shorts, and they never stuck with the sitcom plot all the time! This show is just a mess. Remind me what their reasoning was when they said that type of show "wouldn't work today" again?!

As for Toonami, okay that wasn't the perfect example. Bringing it back was never the decision of Turner at all- it was Mike Lazzo and James Demarco who convinced them to put it back on the air and to keep it profitable this time! It's a coincidence it happened around the same time as The Looney Tunes Show.

edited 26th Oct '12 12:49:19 PM by kyun

To be perfectly honest, though, even though I don't think the show should have been made, I actually do enjoy it, and look forward to each new episode.

And it's not like they completely left out the slapstick. In a recent episode, where Bugs got his tooth chipped, there was this chase scene that could pretty much fit in a regular Looney Tunes show. And the season 1 episode The D.M.V. actually couldn't be possible except in toon form.

So I curious as how some of you were not expecting to see old sitcom tropes in this show.

...Because CN has a bunch of other sitcoms that don't use them?

...because...... it's Looney Tunes?

Yeah, that pretty much answers that.

If they wanted a sitcom segment in a Looney Tunes show, they always could have used those mice who were a parody of The Honeymooners, I guess.

edited 26th Oct '12 6:35:00 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Wasn't The Flintstones just...... that? :D

"The Honeymousers," made by WB at the insistence of Jackie Gleason after seeing "The Mouse that Jack Built," which was Jack Benny and the cast of his show as cartoon mice (Benny and co. did their own voices, too). I think there were 3 Honeymousers cartoons all together.

Even then I first went into the show figuring out what they were going for.

I like how they got a classic sitcom scenario and just snowballed it to heck.

Sure is a lot of mad in this thread.

I love the show, personally.

@kyun: I remember someone who works on the show once saying that since all attempts at emulating the original shorts had ended in failure, they'd just do something different with the characters. And so far, it seems like it's a success, despite the cries of a vocal minority.

That entire episode was worth the pay-off at the end, Daffy in the Marines with guns blazing as his squad rescues Bugs and the other prisoners.

Commercial failure; Duck Dodgers was actually pretty good.

edited 1st Nov '12 8:03:54 AM by PhysicalStamina

And Tiny Toons. And Animaniacs.

Bizarrely, the only time emulating the original cartoons seems to fail is when the original characters are involved.

Another great episode. Liking this a lot more than Season 1.

edited 1st Nov '12 10:34:07 AM by MikeBreezy92

It's a smidge better than Season 1 so far.

I liked the episode too. Especially what they did with Daffy.

X6 I would believe their sincerity if the show had actual effort in it. As it stands, the whole "but we're doin somefin diff'rnt!!'' is nothing more than an excuse to avoid criticism.

The really laughable part about it? When was the last time the Looney Tunes franchise was Looney and failed? Loonatics was ab abyssal failure and considered an Old Shame by the company, but it certainly didn't try to emulate the original shorts. Duck Dodgers, Tiny Toons, and Animaniacs took inspiration from the theatrical shorts in there own way and made shows that worked. THAT was true to the property. THAT was doing something original. THIS is a lazy pile of ass that expects everyone to treat it as if it were doing something new and original when it doesn't do a damn that hasn't been done to death on a million and a half Seinfeld rip offs since the mid 90's. The reason this show infuriates me so much is because these lazy assholes are getting paid millions in merchandizing to regurgitate their reheated leftovers and convince people the barf they're eating shouldn't be criticized because everything is gonna taste like shit after they've been to a 5 star restaurant, just to turn a profit Looney Tunes merchandise that no one's looked at in the past 10 years cause WB has no fucking clue how to make this property work anymore!!! Well lucky them, just slap the "DON'T COMPARE US TO GOOD THINGS!" sticker on everything and people will buy into it!!!

edited 1st Nov '12 8:28:12 PM by Brokenshell44

Looney Tunes Back In Action.

Taz Mania wasn't a mega success either.

People apparently don't like Space Jam either. The funny thing? I see it more as a clear 50% split. I saw it in a family frame of mind, and the only reason I found out people hated it was when I first went on Amazon and this site and the like!

I don't count SJ as actually "Looney", since despite some great gags (mostly with Daffy), it came out as more of a Michael Jordan commercial than a Looney Tunes homage.

But IIRC, commercially speaking was a huge success.

edited 1st Nov '12 9:15:29 PM by NapoleonDeCheese