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#7976: Oct 12th 2013 at 6:09:56 AM

The most glaring suspicious coincidence IMO is the placement of Asuka's injuries (denoted by the patched-up parts of her suit) in Rebuild 3.0, and how it matches perfectly with the spots that Unit 02 was depicted to have suffered terminal damage in on Maya's laptop in EOE.

And there's the "Rei IV" and "Rei V" thing for the OST.

edited 12th Oct '13 6:11:45 AM by MarqFJA

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#7977: Oct 12th 2013 at 6:43:44 AM

In FINAL, we find out that the entire Rebuild series is just what Kaworu was up to in Instrumentality while everyone else was congratulating Shinji. At the end of FINAL Kaworu walks up to the group congratulating Shinji, immediately after the TV series cut to the credits, and the events of After the End start.

edited 12th Oct '13 6:47:57 AM by porschelemans

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#7978: Oct 12th 2013 at 8:02:53 AM

After listening to that Audio Drama, I'll say this for Anno; he'd have made an excellent voice actor.

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#7979: Oct 12th 2013 at 11:42:31 AM

He is a voice actor.

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AfroWarrior27 Since: Jul, 2013
#7980: Oct 12th 2013 at 3:33:19 PM

Evangelion: 1.11 You Are (Not) Alone Part 1

Man, so like The End of Evangelion this movie has such luscious animation, it so beautiful to look at it.

So far though it seems to be the first four episodes with godly animation.

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#7981: Oct 12th 2013 at 3:35:21 PM

Pretty much. The first two thirds of it are weaker than the original in my opinion, as they lack the pacing and some of the character development of the original. Then we get to episodes 5 & 6, and, despite perhaps lacking the humour of those episodes, it definitely treats them in a way which is for the better...

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AfroWarrior27 Since: Jul, 2013
#7982: Oct 12th 2013 at 4:35:57 PM

Evangelion: 1.11 You Are (Not) Alone part 2

Now it's for some Rei, except this time Shinji, that poor uncordinated boy caused panties to fly everywhere. Also there's a new scene with Miasto & Shinji in which unlike the original, Misato actually knows about Lilith and Lilith has a less creepy mask.

Also they played the batle agaisnt Ramiel up to more epicness, lots of expansion there to Touji wishing Shinji good luck, to Shinji getting back up and taking that blue diamond of hell out.

And damnit Rei! That smile was cute in the anime, outright adorable in the Manga and Death & Rebirth, the smile here is no exception! Fine way to end the movie.

...

Whoa, didn't expect to see Kaworu so soon. 0.o

And the Third child again, what in the world could that me...

Oh wow, previews never expect that in a movie to give a preview to the next [lol]

Still, with the fanservice promise eh, Misato?

edited 12th Oct '13 4:36:44 PM by AfroWarrior27

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#7983: Oct 12th 2013 at 7:08:53 PM

To be fair, 2.0 does deliver on the fanservice promise. 3.0 is the one failing there, unless you're a sadist that considers gratuitous human pain a form of fanservice.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#7984: Oct 12th 2013 at 7:38:31 PM

… Wasn't Rei naked at some point in 3.0? I think that happened, anyway.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#7985: Oct 12th 2013 at 8:18:22 PM

Shinji and Kaworu playing the piano together under a heart shaped tree is fanservice. Just not the kind one would normally expect.

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#7987: Oct 13th 2013 at 1:07:06 AM

[up][up]No, it's fairly predictable fanservice, it's just fanservice for a different part of the audience (ie. The Yaoi Fangirl section).

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#7988: Oct 13th 2013 at 3:26:05 AM

The Eva fanbase needs more Yaoi Fangirl's, don't you think?

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#7989: Oct 13th 2013 at 6:17:48 AM

Shinji and Kaworu playing the piano together under a heart shaped tree is fanservice. Just not the kind one would normally expect.

Well, they were fully clothed, so does it even count as fanservice?

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#7990: Oct 13th 2013 at 7:30:38 AM

Yes. Fanservice is a broader term than some seem to think.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#7991: Oct 13th 2013 at 7:54:01 AM

It has two meanings, the traditional, wide one and the most often used nowadays one, the sexual one, which is a derivate from the first. I suspect the later will end up overshadowing the former completely; it's more than halfway there by now...

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7992: Oct 13th 2013 at 5:33:06 PM

Wonder what kind of fan service the last film is gonna have for that matter.

On the note of the last film, the Q Unit is.......phtffhaHAHA!

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#7993: Oct 13th 2013 at 5:43:38 PM

It's alive! Bwahahahahahahahaha!

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#7994: Oct 13th 2013 at 7:24:45 PM

Isn't the Q Unit basically a more elaborate repaint of Unit 01? Unit 08 is the stupid looking one that seems to have been designed by a drunk Two-Face.

edited 13th Oct '13 7:25:00 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

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#7995: Oct 13th 2013 at 9:12:27 PM

Looking at the packages in the back, the red is unit 2, the pink is unit 8 and someone is showing that they are the same model repainted by using half of one and the other to get two unit 8=2(10?) The Q is which movie they are from.

Honestly, seeing that travesty in 4 wouldn't surprise me that much.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7996: Oct 13th 2013 at 10:14:56 PM

[up] Almost makes me hope that the 4.0 preview was just a placeholder. Cause the design is one of the most Narmful things I've ever seen.

Also, looking back at the last scene of 3.0 again, I find it interesting how it is pretty much a dark inversion of the whole holding hands motif. Asuka grabs Shinji's hand drags his catatonic form across the desert, causing him to drop the SDAT player in the process. Considering how the player is pretty much a symbol of Shinji's hope and soul, it is almost implying that Asuka is trying to force him into facing reality, but without giving a rip about his mind, soul, or heart. That said, Rei Q was shown looking down at it with a rather sad look on her face. Maybe she'll be the one to actually get through to Shinji.

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7997: Oct 14th 2013 at 8:57:28 PM

So thinking over it some more (and scrolling through the wacky Eva Geeks forums again), apparently the first film's aesop is "you have people looking out for you", and the second film's is "you can't run away from your problems, and you gotta face them head on".

So what is 3.0's? "Talk to others before making drastic actions and ideas?" "Don't be an idiot?" tongue

Here's what an Eva Geek theorized:

"Personally, I think that if there is a moral in Rebuild, it's in a more personal level : that if you want things to change you have to act for it(apathy and simple wishing for better times don't do shit) and to keep an open mind to everything and not discarding others simply because they think differently or are from different origins(see Anno's interview where he says that he doesn't reject the otaku culture and try to told them to abandon it, but to don't close themselves to other peoples just because they're not otakus)

In rebuild it's a little ham-fisted with Shinji beating the crap out of Big Z and going through immense pain to save Rei and the colossal screw-up with the spears respectively.

But still I don't think that these morals are the exclusive core of Rebuild, Anno himself said that he wanted to tell again a "Tale", like Legend of Galactic Heroes, where everything doesn't revolves around a single character and his feelings, but a story where a group/country/organization as a whole accomplish something great and epic. And it's shown in Rebuild : even though we are centered on Shinji and his doubts, by the time of 3.0 he's told by Asuka that he should stop to be so me-centric and think only about himself, implying to start to try to see the big picture instead, lest he will be constantly manipulated like a string puppet."

Personally, I'm not so sure this message works. Again, because the story, and especially 3.0 has been so focused on Shinji so far, trying to make the message be "think about what your actions might (note, might) do to others instead of yourself" doesn't really have the same punch as I think it should be. I feel that, if this is to be the message that Anno is trying to communicate to the otaku community that he despises apparently, he should show more of the other characters in FINAL. Really go more into why they of all people deserve more sympathy than Shinji and the like. We got some of that with the shots of the ruined world, and WILLE's flying fortress, but those aren't enough to see their internal struggle.

AfroWarrior27 Since: Jul, 2013
#7998: Oct 23rd 2013 at 10:22:44 AM

I serioursly need to get around to watching the other two. But I've been jammed with so many other objectives at the momemt it's been diffuclt to be honest.

edited 23rd Oct '13 10:23:06 AM by AfroWarrior27

LDragon2 Since: Dec, 2011
#7999: Oct 28th 2013 at 4:41:13 PM

Hmmmm.

Wonder if this will have anything to do with Rebuild, FINAL or not.

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