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God_of_Awesome Since: Jan, 2001
#13426: May 29th 2016 at 11:20:57 AM

I remember being in the kitchen, eating my breakfast. I was... 10 or 11. I wanna say 10, but I was 11. My mum was watching the tiny telly we have in the kitchen.

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#13428: May 30th 2016 at 4:23:42 AM

Does anyone know the original context of that quote?

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#13429: May 30th 2016 at 4:54:39 AM

According to Wikiquotes it's from a 1949 interview with Alfred Werner, though there are earlier attributions.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#13430: May 30th 2016 at 9:32:35 AM

There is also a logical problem with that quote: if after WW III civilisation was destroyed to the point of being reduced to fighting with sticks and stones, they would hardly have the organisatorial or political wherewithal to start another World War, if they were even aware of each other to such an extent that you could call it a World War.

Otherwise, we might as well call the Peloponnesian War a World War.

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#13431: May 30th 2016 at 9:34:05 AM

How much of a world war could it have been if it only involved one country? tongue

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#13432: May 30th 2016 at 9:47:14 AM

Greece wasn't "one country" at the time.

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C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#13433: May 30th 2016 at 10:05:43 AM

Then again, if World War III reduces mankind to handful of people living in a cave, any fight between them could count as a world war.

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#13434: May 30th 2016 at 11:22:41 AM

Actually, WW I was fought in Europe and its immediate surroundings (as well as the USA being involved near the end), and we still call it a World War. So technically, any war that involves most of a given civilization can be called World War from the point of view of that particular civilization.

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#13435: May 30th 2016 at 11:29:27 AM

Actually, there were also hostilities in the Middle East (involving the Ottoman Empire), in Africa and in the Pacific (involving the European powers' colonies), and India voluntarily offered support to the British.

edited 30th May '16 1:01:22 PM by Aetol

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BestOf FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC! from Finland Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
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#13436: May 30th 2016 at 12:00:59 PM

Japan also participated, mostly to get a slice of Germany's colonies in Asia. They even sent a fleet to the Mediterranean to help the Allied cause.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#13437: May 30th 2016 at 1:16:00 PM

Being a colony, I don't see how India could have "volunteered" anything. Wouldn't they have been obliged to lend support by the empire?

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Aetol from France Since: Jan, 2015
#13438: May 30th 2016 at 1:21:11 PM

Maybe the British would have forced them to help anyway, but apparently they didn't have to. The Indians believed that being helpful would help them secure their independence in return.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#13439: May 30th 2016 at 1:21:43 PM

Lets fight a war over who gets to name the wars.

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A procrastination in of itself
#13440: May 30th 2016 at 2:14:27 PM

British colonial rules were weird, I'm not sure when it came into effect but before the Empire ended each Dominion (which was different from direct colonial subjects) got to choose if it went to war or not and made its own decisions on a lot of matters

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Galadriel Since: Feb, 2015
#13441: May 30th 2016 at 2:54:38 PM

The British Dominions gained control over their own foreign policy by the Statute of Westminster in 1931, and it didn't include India. In WWI, all the Dominions became involved in WWI automatically when Britain declared war. In WWII, the Dominions (Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, mainly) were free to make their own choices, but India was not.

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#13443: Jun 1st 2016 at 7:41:22 AM

This is something I relate to. I'm a geography nerd annoyed by how many schools and libraries don't update their world maps. (South Sudan became a country in 2011, get with the program.) So I'll always inspect them and estimate what year they're from.

I've never been this in-depth though. tongue

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#13444: Jun 1st 2016 at 7:42:31 AM

I love it, but especially over on the right side where there are some future gags thrown in. For example, I am curious about what happens in 2021 that results in Colorado becoming a radioactive zone with spiders.

Oh, and the middle path leads you to the conclusion that you're in Middle-Earth, Narnia, a few other fictional nations, or holding a cat instead of a map.

edited 1st Jun '16 7:44:41 AM by Fighteer

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Demetrios Our Favorite Cowgirl, er, Mare from Des Plaines, Illinois (unfortunately) Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
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#13445: Jun 1st 2016 at 7:43:36 AM

[up][up]Don't worry, it could be worse. At least you don't have a globe that still has the Soviet Union. tongue

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Cailleach Studious Girl from Purgatory Since: Sep, 2015 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
Studious Girl
#13446: Jun 1st 2016 at 7:45:34 AM

I have two world maps in my room from 2004 and 2008. I've drawn corrections on them with a sharpie

KylerThatch literary masochist Since: Jan, 2001
literary masochist
#13447: Jun 1st 2016 at 9:18:19 AM

I like how the first question is Istanbul or Constantinople.

This "faculty lot" you speak of sounds like a place of great power...
Silasw A procrastination in of itself from A handcart to hell (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
A procrastination in of itself
#13448: Jun 1st 2016 at 10:04:27 AM

As someone with 5 globes I love this, I've many times tried to date maps, though I go for much more precise dates then what the chart offers, there are some city and province name changes that one can use for map dating, I think one I used once was somewhere in Canada.

“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyran
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#13449: Jun 1st 2016 at 11:02:22 AM

Being from middle Europe I miss the changes in the Yugostlavian region during the '90s—early '00s.

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shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
Somebody get this freaking duck away from me!
#13450: Jun 1st 2016 at 4:54:47 PM

At first, you might think it narrow-minded that the only animals you could possibly be holding that the flowchart accounts for are cats and seagulls. But then you think about it a bit more, and you realize that cats and seagulls are really the only animals you could actually mistake for a map.


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