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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#17401: Sep 19th 2014 at 4:56:15 PM

since you brought up Lord of the Rings, I felt that the movie version of that could have been 3 hours longer (one hour for each part of the trilogy) and I would have been captivated.
Hah, on that I think that I agree!

... It... it couldn't include Tom Bombadil, could it...? T-T

(In all seriousness, I do understand why they removed him, I think, but I still kinda miss him: he was a part of the book-version that I rather liked—very much including the incident with the (rather cool—sort-of pun intended) barrow wight.)

\*ahem* But I'll stop there before I start rambling on about hyena-wargs and how cool it would have been to have seen- er, yes, stopping now. ^^;

I probably should mention, since I only implied it before, that I did enjoy the joke; I just think it was way too much setup.
That's the thing: for me it was just the right amount of setup: enough for me to notice the oddity in the interactions and start wondering, but not quite enough for it to stretch thin. *shrugs*

This gag will work better in the TPB archive.
"TPB"?

edited 19th Sep '14 4:56:47 PM by ArsThaumaturgis

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#17403: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:00:44 PM

In print comics, the Trade Paperback or TPB is a collection of comics, usually comprising one or two storyarcs.

The advent of the TPB has resulted in the rise of decompressed storytelling, wherein a writer uses 5 or 6 issues to tell a story rather than the done-in-ones of old. Complaints about Shive's slow pacing always remind me of similar complaints towards comic writers who focus more on how the comic will look in the TPB rather than the individual issue.

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#17404: Sep 19th 2014 at 6:07:35 PM

There's decompression and then there's padding. Ultimate Spider-man is decompressed. I love Ultimate Spider-man until they brought Gwen Stacy back via Carnage clone followed swiftly by Ultimatum. EGS is a slog through a swamp. There are tortoises that move faster than EGS.

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#17405: Sep 19th 2014 at 8:34:07 PM

... I had a pet tortoise once. (No, that's apropos of very little.)

[up][up], [up][up][up] Aah, I see—thank you both. ^_^

You know, it just occurred to me that I don't think that I've read El Goonish Shive via the archives—beyond occasional re-readings of a page or two at a shot—in a long time; I generally just read that day's page and move on, as far as I recall.

It's not even the comic that I'd rank the lowest at the moment on my reading list (that would perhaps be either Amya or Out Of My Element)—in fact, I think that it has actually crept up a little during this arc.

edited 19th Sep '14 8:34:41 PM by ArsThaumaturgis

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Elfive Since: May, 2009
#17406: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:57:58 AM

My Nan has a tortoise and he can move quite fast when he wants to.

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#17407: Sep 20th 2014 at 3:42:30 AM

Someone on Tumblr noticed that Fantasy!Justin doesn't have his earring, because Luke hasn't noticed it yet.

TobiasDrake Queen of Good Things, Honest (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#17408: Sep 20th 2014 at 6:17:43 AM

Always remember the moral of the tortoise and the hare.

Slow and steady may win the race, but if your opponent stopped to take a nap in the middle of it, the competition probably only mattered to you anyway.

edited 20th Sep '14 6:17:51 AM by TobiasDrake

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#17409: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:43:04 AM

[up][up] Heh, as I recall I did notice that—once the scene had been revealed as fantasy. ^^;

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#17410: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:31:32 PM

[up][up]I thought the moral was "Always be sure to drug you opponent's food".

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CountDorku Since: Jan, 2001
#17411: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:32:49 PM

"Complete incompetence loses the race."

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#17413: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:45:18 PM

Always make sure you have a partner hide at the end so that you drive your opponent have a heart attack kill them as they continue trying to outrace you.

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#17414: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:35:23 PM

"it couldn't include Tom Bombadil, could it" No. No it could not. Cutting out Tom Bombadil was the best thing Peter Jackson did. Holy hell did the Bombadil chapters ever drag on.

I'm fine with the slowness of EGS, and the wasted panels, and all that. I don't feel any particular rush with it. I enjoy each day's strip, and then I move on.

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#17415: Sep 20th 2014 at 7:40:41 PM

I don't know, I really liked Tom Bombadil.

Pacing of this strip doesn't bother me, either.

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#17416: Sep 21st 2014 at 4:34:17 PM

Regarding Tom Bombadil, as indicated, I rather enjoyed of his section of the story. Now, the beginning—from the first page up to the escape from the Shire—I found to drag on rather badly, as I recall.

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#17417: Sep 22nd 2014 at 3:25:43 AM

Comic!

NP!

Make it sketchy, Number One.

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#17418: Sep 22nd 2014 at 3:26:13 AM

Luke didn't notice the earring

Really, that's all to say about today's strip, I guess. *sigh* Alright, so things are a little slow...

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#17419: Sep 22nd 2014 at 4:09:52 AM

I forgot that Nanase really liked being really tall back at the party.

My only comment for the main strip is that there needs to be a new gay code because this one clearly isn't working. And I feel really sorry for them both.

As for the sketch, I get the feeling Justin would be more chief of security. Though you could still have the commander rank but I think he'd be wearing operations yellow. Yeah, you can totally be a commander and be in operations colours because commander Data. Or was he a lutenient-commander, I don't recall...

edited 22nd Sep '14 4:12:29 AM by MousaThe14

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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#17420: Sep 22nd 2014 at 8:26:25 AM

I think a meta version of Nanase would grab Shive by shoulders and say "What is your obsession with the height 5'4"? I want to be taller, damn it!"

Actually, that does lead me to wonder a bit about magic. It's all-but-accepted as true that magic affects the physical body when awakened - it's the reason why Susan no longer needs to dye her hair, why she's grown three inches, and why Nanase believes her bust is impressive. It may also be affecting the base physiques of Elliot and Ellen, although that's not clear for sure yet.

However, while the spells gained are reflective, in some ways, of the user, it seems like the physical changes are not. To take the most obvious examples, both Susan and Nanase regarding height. Susan was completely satisfied with being 5'6". Nanase is annoyed that she's only 5'4" (EDIT: And she's been wanting to be taller for a while). However, Susan grew three inches, while Nanase is stuck wearing platform boots. The logical conclusion is that personal desire may basically guide what spells are acquired, but some other factor determines physical changes arising from awakening.

(Alternately, there is one other conclusion one could reach - that Nanase would be even shorter - maybe even under 5 feet tall - if she hadn't awakened. However, outside of Word of God, we have no way of knowing. There is circumstantial evidence to support this - of the four blood relatives shown for Nanase, one was only shown sitting, one is pre-adolescent and the other two, her mother and Tedd, aren't tall either.)

Oh, main comic... Chekhov's Gun has been fired, change blindness is in effect, Justin's neck is probably starting to hurt from leaning that much.

edited 22nd Sep '14 8:27:51 AM by 32_Footsteps

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#17421: Sep 22nd 2014 at 9:23:31 AM

Hah, another good page! ^_^

Poor, poor Justin and Luke. XD;

[up] Building on the thought of magic reflecting its owner, perhaps just as one's spells reflect the actions of their owner, the physical changes related are an inverted reflection: one gets changes that one doesn't care about.

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#17422: Sep 22nd 2014 at 11:55:00 AM

I'm not complaining at all about today's page, but it doesn't quite rise to the level of "good" for EGS Maybe "good for this storyline" (if I wanted to levy criticism about this storyline more), but I know Shive can do better than this. At his best, Shive can deliver today's punchline with other jokes or with serious plot advancement.

I don't know; maybe there's other things going on and Shive's too distracted to deliver his best work. Still, today's comic is okay. But I really think Shive's more capable than "okay."

edited 22nd Sep '14 11:55:48 AM by 32_Footsteps

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ArsThaumaturgis Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
#17423: Sep 22nd 2014 at 7:27:18 PM

[up] Hmm... Okay, I do believe that I agree with you that this isn't the best page that Shive has produced; but it got a laugh from me, as I recall, which I'm inclined to call decent at least.

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TheyCallMeTomu Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#17424: Sep 23rd 2014 at 4:45:27 AM

link!

While he may just be procrastinating, he's not wrong. It WOULD be super inappropriate to ask him out during the tournament. And that's aside from the fact that it'd set a bad precedent re the "no hitting on your opponents" rule, since it'd basically reinforce the idea that card game tournaments are a place for nerd hookups.

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#17425: Sep 23rd 2014 at 4:53:01 AM

As for the sketchbook, I have to wonder if Dan has seen Iron Man, given that it answers the question of "how do you put on powered armour?" on at least two occasions.


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