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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#93351: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:54:01 PM

I sorta almost feel like Ten gets the Draco in Leather Pants treatment by his own fucking show.

A character being problematic isn't necessarily problematic in and of itself.

Making a problematic character and having speeches like

like

But if Martha Jones became a legend, then that's wrong, because my name isn't important. There's someone else. The man who sent me out there. The man who told me to walk the Earth. And his name is the Doctor. He has saved your lives so many times, and you never even knew he was there. He never stops. He never stays. He never asks to be thanked. But I've seen him. I know him. I love him. And I know what he can do.

...Oh god I want to hit things.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#93352: Aug 3rd 2015 at 12:56:04 PM

A Tenth Doctor themed punching bag?

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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#93353: Aug 4th 2015 at 12:52:20 AM

I want to buy one of those.

Marketing opportunity, methinks.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#93354: Aug 4th 2015 at 1:06:43 AM

Then there may be an opportunity for a badge or T-shirt that reads "I browse the TV Tropes Forum and still like Ten" cool

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Silasw Since: Mar, 2011
#93355: Aug 4th 2015 at 7:03:39 AM

No because then we just become the punchings bags for this lot. tongue

EeveeGirlChey Not stupid or expendable. from the Liberator Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Not stupid or expendable.
#93356: Aug 4th 2015 at 2:59:33 PM

What did I just stumble into?! I saw two Tenth Doctor reruns this morning. One of them was School Reunion. I miss Sarah Jane. sad

At least we still have good old K-9!

"My light shall be the moon, and my path the ocean, my guide the morning star as I sail home to you...."
Laura from Shintolin Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
#93357: Aug 6th 2015 at 3:40:24 AM

Yeah, Pearl not being the main character helps with the acknowledging-serious-flaws thing.

He's the Doctor. He could be anywhere in time and space.
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#93358: Aug 7th 2015 at 7:34:22 AM

So I am going to be away from my computer for a few days, and my phone can't access IRC chat.

So.

Sorry.

edited 7th Aug '15 8:05:55 AM by unnoun

EeveeGirlChey Not stupid or expendable. from the Liberator Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Not stupid or expendable.
#93359: Aug 9th 2015 at 1:26:33 AM

And I am now distancing myself from the Doctor Who fandom for a long time. So long, Whovians!

"My light shall be the moon, and my path the ocean, my guide the morning star as I sail home to you...."
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#93361: Aug 9th 2015 at 7:09:36 AM

unnoun also wants to know.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#93362: Aug 9th 2015 at 2:25:12 PM

It's been hours and there is some news.

Moffat on quotas.

Salon articles have links that are too long.

...Also, the title for the article is the most blatant instance of taking things out of context I've seen outside of politics.

I wonder how often him putting his foot in his mouth is that and how often it's journalists being collossal jerks.

Any guesses? Eruditorum Guy? Emeriin? Musik? Eagal? Medicus? Anyone?

edited 9th Aug '15 2:37:42 PM by unnoun

MusikMaestro from Ireland Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Heisenberg unreliable
#93363: Aug 9th 2015 at 2:41:29 PM

I'm not sure. I mean, we have double the female writers any previous season has had, which is still 2, but that's better than 1 or 0. I'm not saying that's good representation, but it at least shows that he's trying.

I think that there are also a few female directors this season which is nice.

EeveeGirlChey Not stupid or expendable. from the Liberator Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Not stupid or expendable.
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#93365: Aug 9th 2015 at 2:45:41 PM

Moffat tries. And while I'd never say that should be enough to earn anyone's unconditional support, I think context matters as well. And it certaintly doesn't justify the whole "Doctor Who was great until that sexist jerk Moffat came around"

Because, no. Moffat is the least sexist creator Doctor Who has had in a pretty long time. He may still have sexist ideals, but don't pretend the show was perfect before him, and that anyone in recent memory has tried harder than he has (which, again, it's fair if you don't think that's hard enough)

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#93366: Aug 9th 2015 at 3:18:30 PM

[up][up] ...You could stay here and watch Pertwee.

edited 9th Aug '15 3:18:45 PM by unnoun

TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#93367: Aug 9th 2015 at 4:55:52 PM

I'm pretty sure I've said it before, but I've come to see the Pertwee years as less like James Bond like everyone says, and more like (Not-Marvel's) The Avengers. Kind of a spy-flavored Agency-oriented thing that has an addiction to campy sci-fi.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#93368: Aug 9th 2015 at 6:47:27 PM

Wasn't Jo originally conceived as an Emma Peel Expy?

edited 9th Aug '15 6:47:40 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
PurpleDalek Since: Sep, 2011
#93369: Aug 10th 2015 at 1:48:04 AM

Wasn't the Pertwee-era an attempt (at least initially) of Follow the Leader? The Avengers was super popular back in the day.

C105 Too old for this from France Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Too old for this
#93370: Aug 10th 2015 at 4:14:59 AM

It was quite fun when an episode of The Avengers featured Jon Pertwee as a war veteran who ends up killed by false Venusians.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#93371: Aug 10th 2015 at 7:49:07 AM

That, sir, is a slur against Venusian! We...I mean they would never resort to murder! We...they...

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
EeveeGirlChey Not stupid or expendable. from the Liberator Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Not stupid or expendable.
#93372: Aug 10th 2015 at 1:52:36 PM

And suddenly we're talking about Jon Pertwee! Well I do think of the spy-fi genre when we're talking Pertwee.

Basically during his era, I guess I could say Doctor Who turned into a sci-fi version of The Avengers! (non-Marvel)

"My light shall be the moon, and my path the ocean, my guide the morning star as I sail home to you...."
Oboeplum Antiheroic antivillain from somewhere really boring Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Antiheroic antivillain
#93373: Aug 10th 2015 at 2:13:20 PM

I think three's era was designed as some sort of contrast against the outdated optimistic SF of the sixties, and to save money. That kind of genre of military-ish SF set in the modern day seems like it was pretty popular in the early seventies, particularly in britain. There's the avengers, UFO, thunderbirds etc...

Does anyone know if it was as popular in america?

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#93374: Aug 10th 2015 at 3:54:38 PM

From what I can tell, as a genre in America, military sci-fi seems to have been more of an 80's thing. Of course, I'm not that familiar with the history of the genre, particularly as far as the 70's go, so I could be wrong.

Oh God! Natural light!
TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#93375: Aug 10th 2015 at 4:43:24 PM

The episodes of The Avengers that I saw were sci-fi. I'm pretty sure they were all in color, so probably the New Avengers.

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