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EchoingSilence Since: Jun, 2013
#21276: May 27th 2015 at 11:53:48 AM

Annie probably subconsciously did it as a act of rebellion.

Or did it long before when the trust the 3 had was strong enough.

Euodiachloris Since: Oct, 2010
#21277: May 27th 2015 at 12:10:47 PM

Unless... there was a gap between Annie relinquishing control (in the classroom) and her trying to officially hand the plushie of Reynard over to her father later on.

Kat could have "stolen" him when he was officially nobody's and might have been free to act on his own. And, say... ask to be "taken", if only to be in a position to help Annie?

edited 27th May '15 12:11:54 PM by Euodiachloris

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#21278: May 27th 2015 at 12:40:10 PM

Unlikely. By a lot of factors. I doubt that relinquishing control works outside of earshot of the controlled. Kat didn't seem like she skipped classes and when she arrived Annie was there.

And lastly, for it to be true Kat would've had to be faking the outrage.

So no, Kat getting her hands on Rey was a later occurence.

Everzwijn glarblgrklgrgg from under your bed Since: Sep, 2009
#21279: May 27th 2015 at 12:51:58 PM

Annie still had control over Renard when Kat held him last chapter, since Renard couldn't speak because of Annie's orders. The switch would've had to happen between chapters.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21280: May 29th 2015 at 12:13:13 AM

Now that's just tempting fate Renard.

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
This is a title.
#21281: May 29th 2015 at 12:25:06 AM

New one.

So Annie was lying to Tony.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!
Mukora Uniocular from a place Since: Jan, 2010 Relationship Status: I made a point to burn all of the photographs
Uniocular
#21282: May 29th 2015 at 12:28:25 AM

Excellent.

"It's so hard to be humble, knowing how great I am."
piearty Hello world! from The clouds Since: Oct, 2009
Hello world!
#21283: May 29th 2015 at 12:44:47 AM

I remember Tom saying "Don't give up on Annie just yet"

Enlong Court Dragon from The Underground Facility Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Court Dragon
#21284: May 29th 2015 at 5:48:28 AM

Question is: did Annie remember the significance of that when she passed up her ownership?

I have a message from another time...
Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#21285: May 29th 2015 at 6:17:36 AM

[up]Most certainly yes. Else, she wouldn't have passed it to Kat first.

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#21287: May 29th 2015 at 7:55:59 AM

We have already established that Annie did not hand control over in that previous chapter.

If Tom is going to plan to retrocon, can't he at least edit his pages?

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#21288: May 29th 2015 at 8:00:09 AM

Yay!

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
DatLonerGirl Get heckin crabbed from a top secret place Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Get heckin crabbed
#21289: May 29th 2015 at 8:11:49 AM

[up][up] It could easily have been between Kat giving her the walky talkies and them leaving in the carriage.

Writer, or something. And... a button? 🖲️
hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#21290: May 29th 2015 at 8:24:37 AM

Last time anybody was shown holding him and Kat's orders are not obeyed:

http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1502

It would have been minimally plausible if Annie was the one holding him at that moment.

Instead we have him clearly in this box:

http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1505

Which Annie does not ever hand over to Kat:

http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1506

It is a perverse lie.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#21291: May 29th 2015 at 8:27:59 AM

The characters continue to exist and act even when they are not onscreen. Parley and Smitty did not just pop back into existence for this plan.

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#21292: May 29th 2015 at 8:28:12 AM

They were in the carriage with the boxes with him inside.

Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#21293: May 29th 2015 at 8:29:33 AM

Seriously, that's not even convoluted. Get in carriage -> take Renard out of box -> hand to Kat. Hardly a gross violation of narrative causality.

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
Heatth from Brasil Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
#21294: May 29th 2015 at 8:30:17 AM

[up][up][up]Take a better look in the background of today's second panel. It is the carriage. This happened after last chapter. Immediately after, in fact. Annie just took Reynardine out of the box and handed it over to Kat.

[nja][nja]

edited 29th May '15 8:30:35 AM by Heatth

hcobb from http://www.hcobb.com/ Since: Jan, 2001
#21295: May 29th 2015 at 8:40:22 AM

http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1515

Panel 2: I've been found out!

Panel 4: Bluff!

Panel 5: I do not believe you.

Panel 6: Quick, save her, but don't look at him and give it away.

wild mass guess The real Tony shall defeat this robot and save his daughter.

"Show us the Galaxy Warp."
Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
Absolutely no relation to NLK
#21296: May 29th 2015 at 8:54:48 AM

Your point?

Dopants: He meant what he said and he said what he meant, a Ninety is faithful 100%.
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The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#21297: May 29th 2015 at 8:57:26 AM

Tony is getting less and less Knight Templar Parent and more and more Uncanny Valley...

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
stingerbrg Since: Jun, 2009
#21298: May 29th 2015 at 10:30:49 AM

Kat, you're getting a little too Harry Potter and Snape or Malfoy here.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Hi
#21299: May 29th 2015 at 10:57:56 AM

I can't look at the links right now, but I don't remember it being made clear that Tony was with the girls in the carriage ride to the vault.

Geoduck Since: Jan, 2001
#21300: May 29th 2015 at 11:41:28 AM

[up]I don't think anyone is arguing he was. Any "he" would be referring to Rey.


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