History YMMV / TheInfiniteLoops

* CrossesTheLineTwice: What does [[WebVideo/FreemansMind Gordon Freeman]] do upon finding out that his DatingSim Loop [[VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub is not what it seems to be?]] Shoot himself simply because he doesn’t want to deal with the rest of the Loop thanks to his prior experience with ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''. (Actually not a bad call, [[PsychologicalHorror given what the game devolves into.]])

* CrossesTheLineTwice: What does [[Machinima/FreemansMind Gordon Freeman]] do upon finding out that his DatingSim Loop [[VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub is not what it seems to be?]] Shoot himself simply because he doesn’t want to deal with the rest of the Loop thanks to his prior experience with ''VisualNovel/SchoolDays''. (Actually not a bad call, [[PsychologicalHorror given what the game devolves into.]])

** One ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles2'' snip reveals that Rex decided to date both the Aegis girls as well as Nia. Come ''VideoGame/XenobladeChronicles3'' and it turns out [[spoiler:that's exactly what he ended up doing in canon.]]

** A spacebattler called "Facepalmist" has been trying for several years to [[https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/infinite-loops-index-the-hub-back-up.448634/ put together a comprehensible list of all the snips]], complete with [[UpToEleven their canonical status in the community]]. Better not visit this on mobile; it stops showing the page after a while.

* AngstWhatAngst: A lot of loopers manage to get over their baseline problems rather quickly once the loops start. Either because they eventually become powerful enough to easily deal with what was causing problems, or received help from outside loopers. However, it should be noted that this is a bit of a BrokenBase amoung loop writers. Some feel it waste good CharacterDevelopment potential.
* ArchivePanic: That list of loops on the main page is taller than most browser windows.

** Naturally, how powerful certain characters are in regards to other characters, although arguably even ''worse'' in the loop setting due to how crazy powerful all the characters become eventually. Even when characters are powered down thanks to certain loops, there's still a hefty amount of debate over whether the characters could still easily handle.
** There's also the overuse of certain settings in the loops and plotlines common to the loops and settings. An example being Equestria being the dedicated 'heal all problems' loop for nearly all the loopers. Some think it's good because they're use to it by this point, and the most experienced with it. Others don't like it because the 'healing a loopers personal problems from their baseline' plot has been over done to the point of cliché for some, and others feel it wastes good character development potential for the characters of said loop because they couldn't over come it without outside help, and it often only takes one loop for the Equestria loopers to pull it off. [[note]] In Chapter 149, this trend is subverted when the ponies come across [[VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiNocturne a problem]] that ''can't'' be solved so easily. [[/note]]
** Exactly how the mechanics of characters 'Awaking' for the first time in the loops work is a subject many authors of the loops can't seem to agree upon. The only thing set in stone is that they have to be important to the anchor in someway to start looping. Ask any of the authors about specifics though, and one will likely tell you only characters from baseline can loop, while another will say characters that originate from variants can loop, while others will say variant originated characters can only loop if soul bounded to the anchor, while others say they have to be soul bounded to an artifact that they can stuff in their subspace pocket to survive the loop transition, while others say that's impossible because subspace pockets can't hold sentient creatures, even if they're in a non-sentient object like a Pokeball... And ''then'' there are people who say pretty much the only qualification is how popular they are with the readers, and if people / the authors care about them enough to do so.

** The "nutcracker" incident. Not much is known about it, but it resulted in a movie being watched by non-loopers that was so incredibly terrible it shocked a few of them into looping. Some writers found the idea hilarious and a good way to get non-loopers that wouldn't normally loop looping, while other writers found the idea stupid and refused to treat it with anything resembling canon. To this day, it's status as canon is still up in the air...

** People editing the TV Tropes page to update about their own loops / snips. It's divided between the authors who just like editing TV Tropes and what they've written stays fresh in their heads, authors who primarily edit for their own loops and don't see what the problem is, people who don't edit at all because they either can't or won't, and people who feel like other people who don't write for the loop should be the ones to do it because of such things as notability. [[note]]It should be noted though, [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability TV Tropes itself]] [[Administrivia/HowToCreateAWorkPage has no rules against this]], but the backlash that usually results in the community when an author goes on an update spree about their loop is enough to keep most authors afraid of posting ''anything'' about their loop to the TV Tropes page.[[/note]]
** What's the best way to take an axe to the fandom? Suggest a villain as a looper. And for bonus points, suggest that they should remain villainous while looping. Really, suggesting ''any'' new [=MLEs=] outside of the establish ones will cause a major stir. Even if they're about as competent as [[GoldfishPoopGang Team Rocket]], it will result in TorchesAndPitchforks from both supporters and detractors.

** If you want to ''really'' stir the pot, have a ''non''-looping character prove to be a regular challenge for most loopers. Doing so will not only get you the arguments above, but also arguments over whether the non-looping character even ''can'' reasonably present a challenge to any given looper.
** Innortal's original loops. Did they have genuine funny moments, or were they mostly perverted teenager WishFulfillment? Were some of the original sevens actions in them justified, or were they just horribly written? Should they be respected for creating the loops in the first place or, even though they did, that doesn't excuse how badly written they were? This isn't even getting into about what and which of his loops, outside of the original seven being the first batch of loopers, is and/or should be treated as canon...
** Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica. Due to reasons both [[ArchivePanic lost]] and [[YouDoNotWantToKnow best left unexplained]], it was decided that PMMM and Madoka would be used as the example of why {{Ascen|dToAHigherPlaneOfExistence}}sion was a bad thing. [[DidntSeeThatComing This decision did not factor in the possibility of writers wanting to write snippets for Madoka.]] The argument over restoring the universe had been going on for more than a year, with snippets put forward and withdrawn constantly [[note]]it eventually got to a point where a snippet deliberately '''parodying''' a resolution was seriously considered for fixing the issue''[[/note]], before finally being resolved in the summer of '15, two years into the Infinite Loops project.

** The ''Friendship is Magic'' setting, as a whole, can be considered to have reached this point. It's easily the most popular setting among the writers, and their setting and characters often ends up [[SpotlightStealingSquad bleeding into the other loops to the point of overtaking the loopers of that branch]], and they are some of the prime offenders of being able to solve all a loopers personal problems in the span of one loop, no matter how deep-seated in they may be, and don't even think about trying to give them flaws or let someone else get the jump on them, less you be shunned by the writers of the branch. In short, the ''[=FiM=]'' branch more or less taking over the series is a major reason why there are some people out there who prefer Innortal's original loops, despite its [[BrokenBase hotly debated quality]] among current writers.

* CanonDefilement: If the TV Tropes thread under the Fanfics Forum for this fic is anything to go by, there are quite a few Tropers on Wiki/ThisVeryWiki who see even the post Innortal loops as such, thanks to blatant use of PeggySue tropes to the point that the characters barely even resemble themselves after the first several loops.

** ''[=MLP=] loops:''
*** The first time that Discord and Berry talked she said she will not even consider dating him, sixty or so chapters later they are.
*** An early chapter has the cast re-enacting the defeat of G1 Tirek. Flash-forward several dozen Loops, and the RunningGag about Tirek totalling Twilight's library on a constant basis.... And that's not to say ''anything'' of the mane cast actually fighting (an updated) Tirek in the actual show later on. (The snip was made long before the season four finale was even a thing!)
*** Looping Sunset's personality is nearly identical to how she acts in Rainbow Rocks, making this HeartwarmingInHindsight as well. Sunset was activated as a Looper prior to the reveal that Rainbow Rocks even existed. All of her CharacterDevelopment in the Loops was made without that in mind.
*** When Diamond Tiara started looping, the writers made her talent hard-flanked leadership. Come "Crusaders of the Lost Cute Mark", it's revealed that leadership is Diamond Tiara's true ability in canon.

** People editing the TV Tropes page to update about their own loops / snips. It's divided between the authors who just like editing TV Tropes and what they've written stays fresh in their heads, authors who primarily edit for their own loops and don't see what the problem is, people who don't edit at all because they either can't or won't, and people who feel like other people who don't write for the loop should be the ones to do it because of such things as notability. [[note]]It should be noted though, [[Administrivia/ThereIsNoSuchThingAsNotability TV Tropes itself]] [[Administrivia/HowToCreateAWorksPage has no rules against this]], but the backlash that usually results in the community when an author goes on an update spree about their loop is enough to keep most authors afraid of posting ''anything'' about their loop to the TV Tropes page.[[/note]]

* UncannyValley: Some Loopers regard nonloopers as disturbingly static versions of their friends and family. On the flip side, young loopers or particularly perceptive nonloopers sometimes regard older loopers as being strangers in the bodies of their friends when they have changed a lot from their baseline selves.

* BrokenBase: Part of the reason the VideoGame/{{Skylanders}} branch ended up becoming read-only. InUniverse, it's because of the portal hopping gimmick, but out of it, it was because whenever the concept of it becoming it's own loop was brought up, there were both supporters, those who were neutral on the idea but were interested to see how it would go, and protestors towards the idea who flat out didn't want it looping arguing about it, even if it was so much as a passing ''mention'' that it's looping. Even when brought up that wouldn't be chronicled like the Classic and Legend Spyroverses were in the compilation, it did little to quell arguments. Eventually, it ended up becoming read-only, that way the characters could still be used if needed, without arguments over whether it was looping or not.

* CrossesTheLineTwice: What does [[Machinima/FreemansMind Gordon Freeman]] do upon finding out that his DatingSim Loop [[VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub is not what it seems to be?]] Shoot himself simply because he doesn’t want to deal with the rest of the Loop thanks to his prior experience with VisualNovel/SchoolDays. (Actually not a bad call, [[PsychologicalHorror given what the game devolves into.]])

** The beginning of the (non-canon) Fire Emblem loops is this as well. Robin is the anchor, meaning that everything he remembers, [[EldritchAbomination Grima]] does too. Needless to say, Grima gets creative fast, Chrom and Lucina wake up to truly horrible loops, and Robin is trapped in his own mind for ages, watching his friends get tortured and killed over and over again. This setup ends after one chapter, thankfully.
*** However, this setup is followed by chapter 2, where attempts to stabilize the Fire Emblem loops repeatedly fail due to [[SpannerInTheWorks an unknown factor royally screwing everything up]]. The major contributor to the problem, TimeTravel (ironically enough) is universally despised by every observer, who are doing their best to stop the Fire Emblem universe from looping. They are, unfortunately, {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}s who will [[IDidWhatIHadToDo do what they think is necessary]] to achieve this goal...which means attempting to railroad and outright ''neuter'' as much of the random factor Robin brings into the equation. This comes to a head when it's discovered that [[spoiler:Morgan]], merely by ''existing'', is the one responsible for the looping, and the higher-ups keep rewriting everything in order to ensure [[spoiler:Morgan]], as we know them, never comes to be, including manipulating Robin's code to the point that [[spoiler:they set up '''''an entirely new baseline''''' where Robin is female and married to Chrom]]. Even the universe's administrators are disgusted by the "solution"[[note]]This is described as "morally repugnant"--in short, ''a MoralEventHorizon''.[[/note]] Thankfully, thanks to Robin being a '''huge''' {{Determinator}} who firmly believes in ScrewDestiny [[spoiler:and one of the higher-ups acting as a SpannerInTheWorks]], the universe begins to destabilize again, and are finally allowed to loop, thus beginning the Fire Emblem loops proper in Chapter 3.

** The second Fused Mega Man/Sonic Loop, specifically the part where Sally and Sonic discuss Loops where they were roboticized, especially Sally's. Her friends start vanishing, one-by-one, replaced by insanely dangerous robot duplicates who remorselessly chase you everywhere, leaving her nowhere to run. And finally, Metal Sonic, the one behind all this, who has a truly disturbed attraction to her, captures Sally, and prepares to transfer her mind to a robot duplicate of her. He flips the switch... and the Loop ends. His machine outright killed Sally.

* AngstWhatAngst: A lot of loopers manage to get over their baseline problems rather quickly once the loops start. Either because they eventually become powerful enough to easily deal with what was causing problems, or received help from outside loopers. However, it should be noted that this is a bit of a BrokenBase amoung loop writers. Some feel it waste good CharacterDevelopment potential, which is why a few good out of their way to {{Avert|edTrope}} this trope, while others feel it gets in the way of comedy potential, which is why it's frequently PlayedStraight.

* AuthorAppeal: Given what transpires in the loops he wrote, plus his other fanfiction, it's pretty obvious that Innortal likes the UnwantedHarem, GirlOnGirlIsHot, and EveryoneHasLotsOfSex tropes, dislikes yaoi, and has... questionable views of DoubleStandardRapeFemaleOnMale.

* FirstInstallmentWins: Very much {{averted|Trope}}. Despite Innortal's loops kicking off the loops as a whole, at ''best'', his loops are divisive, with many being very eager to point out the many flaws they have whenever possible. Some of the key things include; complete [[OutOfCharacterMoment Out-of-Character Moments]] from nearly every character, shoehorned {{lemon|Fic}}s, and the characters at ''best'' having [[BlueAndOrangeMorality very screwy moral compasses]].
** Played straight for a minority that feel that the CrackFic style comedy of Innortal's loops makes up for the more divisive aspects of it, especially when compared to the tamer and overall less comedic Spacebattles loops.

* RevengeFic: You can tell which characters Innortal doesn't like as well. How much he doesn't like them ranges from indifference (Sai, Tuxedo Kamen), to character bashing (Dumbledore and the Order of the Phoenix, Kakashi), or being brought into the loops either to be repeatedly outclassed and / or humiliated (Akane, Asuka).

** The second Fused Mega Man / Sonic Loop, specifically the part where Sally and Sonic discuss Loops where they were roboticized, especially Sally's. Her friends start vanishing, one-by-one, replaced by insanely dangerous robot duplicates who remorselessly chase you everywhere, leaving her nowhere to run. And finally, Metal Sonic, the one behind all this, who has a truly disturbed attraction to her, captures Sally, and prepares to transfer her mind to a robot duplicate of her. He flips the switch... and the Loop ends. His machine outright killed Sally.
* WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs: Averted. Apparently the loop that Anakin, as Darth Vader, held a 'The View' esque talk show was caused by his coolant being spiked with something, while the Emperor was experimenting with 'dark mushrooms'.
** This being in universe, out of universe it's hard to say if there are any loops written on drugs.
*** Considering a few of the comments by various authors in the forums, it would seem a few were written on at least a lack of sleep.

** In the VisualNovel/DokiDokiLiteratureClub Loops, Monika and Natsuki bet that if sexy Bowser became a meme, they'd have to become bad Sonic OCs for a Loop. At the time, it was obviously not going to happen due to the obvious niches a sexy Bowser could be... And then ''JustForFun/{{Bowsette}}'' happened and the two had to follow through.

*** In short, everyone falls into every camp imaginable and it's a mess, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment and we will leave it at that]].

%%* Crazy Awesome: The loopers in general are this, as most of them can do ridiculous feats in the most ridiculous ways they can come up with.

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* MagnificentBastard: Haseo seems to be shaping up into one of these, with the amount of time he has spent with Shiroe in Log Horizon Fused Loops. Most noticeably is that he used the things he learned from such experiences to gain enough influence in CC Corp to throw Sakaki out of the job he blackmailed them for without very much difficulty at all.

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* CrazyAwesome: Sasquatch. Riding a dragon. Wielding cannons. Humanity's response? Mikasa.

* CrazyAwesome: The loopers in general are this, as most of them can do ridiculous feats in the most ridiculous ways they can come up with.