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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Some say this in regards to the [[https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Spider-Woman-Marvel-Comics-Jessica-Drew.jpg old suit]], saying it looks ridiculous while [[BrokenBase others]] say this about [[http://i1.cdnds.net/14/51/618x435/comics-spider-woman-02.jpg the new costume]], saying it doesn't fit a superhero.

!! The animated series
* HilariousInHindsight: "Invasion of the Black Hole" featuring a Darth Vader expy as the villain and the inhabitants of the future seen in "A Crime in Time" resembling Wookies becomes hilariously more appropriate now that both Franchise/StarWars and Creator/MarvelComics are properties of Creator/{{Disney}}.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Some say this in regards to the [[https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Spider-Woman-Marvel-Comics-Jessica-Drew.jpg old suit]], saying it looks ridiculous while [[BrokenBase others]] say this about [[http://i1.cdnds.net/14/51/618x435/comics-spider-woman-02.jpg the new costume]], saying it doesn't fit a superhero.

!! The animated series
* HilariousInHindsight: "Invasion of the Black Hole" featuring a Darth Vader expy as the villain and the inhabitants of the future seen in "A Crime in Time" resembling Wookies becomes hilariously more appropriate now that both Franchise/StarWars and Creator/MarvelComics are properties of Creator/{{Disney}}.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: When first unvailed, Jess's current ongoing earned a lot of criticism due to the creative team attached (Dennis Hopeless, known mostly for ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'' and its sequel, and Greg Land, known mostly for tracing porn) and a variant cover for the first issue drawn by Milo Manara that many felt was so over-sexualized it crossed into misogyny and FanDisservice, resulting in a number of fans, particularly female and/or feminist fans, to complain. Than preview for issue 5 came out, revealing Jess would get a new, better artist and a new, practical costume, and that Greg Land and the first four issues were just a tie-in to ''Spider-Verse'' that the creators had to get out of the way. Suffice to say, many who'd complained now praise what happened with the book, even if they still think the launch was handled terribly.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: When first unvailed, unveiled, Jess's current 2014 ongoing earned a lot of criticism due to the creative team attached (Dennis Hopeless, known mostly for ''ComicBook/AvengersArena'' and its sequel, and Greg Land, known mostly for tracing porn) and a variant cover for the first issue drawn by Milo Manara that many felt was so over-sexualized it crossed into misogyny and FanDisservice, resulting in a number of fans, particularly female and/or feminist fans, to complain. Than preview for issue 5 came out, revealing Jess would get a new, better artist and a new, practical costume, and that Greg Land and the first four issues were just a tie-in to ''Spider-Verse'' that the creators had to get out of the way. Suffice to say, many who'd complained now praise what happened with the book, even if they still think the launch was handled terribly.

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* FoeRomanceSubtext:
** Archenemy Morgan le Fay consistently attempts to possess Jessica's body. She claims said body is a battery of Elder God Chthon's magical energies. Morgan also later goes after Scarlet Witch for the same reason. No particular interest yet in Quicksilver who is also infected with said magics but is male. Though these days, Morgan seems to have a thing for Doctor Doom.
** The relationship between Jessica and Gypsy Moth, a lady villain, is also a bit peculiar. In ''Spider-Woman'' vol. 1 #10, 48, 50, Jessica always tries to befriend the mutant because of their perceived similarities. On the other hand, the Moth's main power is to psychokinetically manipulate fibers. Her favorite moves are either stripping opponents of their clothing or binding them in it. Guess how this looks in battles against Jessica. Worth noting that Gypsy Moth is confirmed as being bisexual by WordOfGod. That would seem to say a lot about the tension between her and Spider-Woman.
*** There was also Nekra Sinclair, who wanted to kill Jessica because she stirred up funny feelings...
* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Jessica herself has a lot of this with her partner Lindsay. However, she later saved Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel after being drained by ComicBook/{{Rogue}}, which was the beginning of their "friendship", later culminating in Carol hugging the real Jessica in relief after the latter got out of the Skrull ship.

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* FoeRomanceSubtext:
** Archenemy Morgan le Fay consistently attempts to possess Jessica's body. She claims said body is a battery of Elder God Chthon's magical energies. Morgan also later goes after Scarlet Witch for the same reason. No particular interest yet in Quicksilver who is also infected with said magics but is male. Though these days, Morgan seems to have a thing for Doctor Doom.
** The relationship between Jessica and Gypsy Moth, a lady villain, is also a bit peculiar. In ''Spider-Woman'' vol. 1 #10, 48, 50, Jessica always tries to befriend the mutant because of their perceived similarities. On the other hand, the Moth's main power is to psychokinetically manipulate fibers. Her favorite moves are either stripping opponents of their clothing or binding them in it. Guess how this looks in battles against Jessica. Worth noting that Gypsy Moth is confirmed as being bisexual by WordOfGod. That would seem to say a lot about the tension between her and Spider-Woman.
*** There was also Nekra Sinclair, who wanted to kill Jessica because she stirred up funny feelings...
* [[HoYay Les Yay]]:
LesYay: Jessica herself has a lot of this with her partner Lindsay. However, she later saved Carol Danvers/Ms. Marvel after being drained by ComicBook/{{Rogue}}, which was the beginning of their "friendship", later culminating in Carol hugging the real Jessica in relief after the latter got out of the Skrull ship.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: After Clint cheated on Jessica, some people lost sympathy for her when she slapped him twice and tried for a third. It doesn't help that he clearly had no idea they were serious or exclusive (given she's referred to as his 'friend-girl' rather than girlfriend) or that she has super strength while he's not, meaning those slaps would have been like being hit by a truck.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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After Clint cheated on Jessica, some people lost sympathy for her when she slapped him twice and tried for a third. It doesn't help that he clearly had no idea they were serious or exclusive (given she's referred to as his 'friend-girl' rather than girlfriend) or that she has super strength while he's not, meaning those slaps would have been like being hit by a truck.truck.
** There are a lot of moments in Jess' solo and team appearances where she comes off as selfish and unpleasant where she's meant to be endearing. One such example is during ''Spider-Verse'' where she prioritizes the life of her son over the assembled Spider People who are fighting for their lives, despite knowing full well that fighting the villains is the best way to protect him.
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** Jess' pregnancy. A single mother superhero ''is'' a fun and interesting idea, but the cover art implies that [[WhatAnIdiot she'll still be superheroing while heavily pregnant]] and many feel they could have just brought back Julia, who is already a single mother with spider powers, for the idea. There's also others who feel it's fairly generic to take a superheroine and give her a baby, and some even find it a bit backwards. Then there's the matter of her prior characterization being someone who hates kids and has hangup about her own upbringing, neither of which were ever really addressed before the storyline.

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** Jess' pregnancy. A single mother superhero ''is'' a fun and interesting idea, but the cover art implies that [[WhatAnIdiot she'll still be superheroing while heavily pregnant]] pregnant and many feel they could have just brought back Julia, who is already a single mother with spider powers, for the idea. There's also others who feel it's fairly generic to take a superheroine and give her a baby, and some even find it a bit backwards. Then there's the matter of her prior characterization being someone who hates kids and has hangup about her own upbringing, neither of which were ever really addressed before the storyline.



* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: There's a segment of fans who ''hate'' the new costume and accuse it of this; complaints include it looking too much like either [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2011}} Batgirl's new costume]], ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}}, or [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Kate Bishop]] rather than Jess, and the weird narmy mask!glasses. There's also fans that just think the old costume was a classic and shouldn't have been messed with. See Broken Base, above.

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* TheyChangedItSoItSucks: TheyChangedItNowItSucks: There's a segment of fans who ''hate'' the new costume and accuse it of this; complaints include it looking too much like either [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2011}} Batgirl's new costume]], ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}}, or [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Kate Bishop]] rather than Jess, and the weird narmy mask!glasses. There's also fans that just think the old costume was a classic and shouldn't have been messed with. See Broken Base, above.
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: The first issue of Spider-Woman took care of the UnfortunateImplications of her possibly crimefighting while pregnant: while she does TRY to, she does so only with special tech Carol gave her to protect the baby, and is talked out of that for her and the child's saftey early into a pregnancy.
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* HilariousInHindsight: "Invasion of the Black Hole" featuring a DarthVaderClone as the villain and the inhabitants of the future seen in "A Crime in Time" resembling Wookies becomes hilariously more appropriate now that both Franchise/StarWars and Creator/MarvelComics are properties of Creator/{{Disney}}.

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* HilariousInHindsight: "Invasion of the Black Hole" featuring a DarthVaderClone Darth Vader expy as the villain and the inhabitants of the future seen in "A Crime in Time" resembling Wookies becomes hilariously more appropriate now that both Franchise/StarWars and Creator/MarvelComics are properties of Creator/{{Disney}}.
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Foe Yay has been cut


** The relationship between Jessica and Gypsy Moth, a lady villain, is also a bit peculiar. In ''Spider-Woman'' vol. 1 #10, 48, 50, Jessica always tries to befriend the mutant because of their perceived similarities. On the other hand, the Moth's main power is to psychokinetically manipulate fibers. Her favorite moves are either stripping opponents of their clothing or binding them in it. Guess how this looks in battles against Jessica. Worth noting that Gypsy Moth is confirmed as being bisexual by WordOfGod. That would seem to say a lot about the FoeYay between her and Spider-Woman.

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** The relationship between Jessica and Gypsy Moth, a lady villain, is also a bit peculiar. In ''Spider-Woman'' vol. 1 #10, 48, 50, Jessica always tries to befriend the mutant because of their perceived similarities. On the other hand, the Moth's main power is to psychokinetically manipulate fibers. Her favorite moves are either stripping opponents of their clothing or binding them in it. Guess how this looks in battles against Jessica. Worth noting that Gypsy Moth is confirmed as being bisexual by WordOfGod. That would seem to say a lot about the FoeYay tension between her and Spider-Woman.
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** Jess' pregnancy. A single mother superhero ''is'' a fun and interesting idea, but the cover art implies that [[WhatAnIdiot she'll still be superheroing while heavily pregnant]] and many feel they could have just brought back Julia, who is already a single mother with spider powers, for the idea. There's also others who feel it's fairly generic to take a superheroine and give her a baby, and some even find it a bit backwards.

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** Jess' pregnancy. A single mother superhero ''is'' a fun and interesting idea, but the cover art implies that [[WhatAnIdiot she'll still be superheroing while heavily pregnant]] and many feel they could have just brought back Julia, who is already a single mother with spider powers, for the idea. There's also others who feel it's fairly generic to take a superheroine and give her a baby, and some even find it a bit backwards. Then there's the matter of her prior characterization being someone who hates kids and has hangup about her own upbringing, neither of which were ever really addressed before the storyline.
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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The title character is sometimes interpreted as trans, due to a backstory of being a clone of Peter Parker that emerged female but still carries all his memories of being a guy, sometimes experiencing identity dysphoria over them.

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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The title character ComicBook/UltimateMarvel version of Jessica is sometimes interpreted as trans, due to a backstory of being a clone of Peter Parker that emerged female but still carries all his memories of being a guy, sometimes experiencing identity dysphoria over them.
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* TransAudienceInterpretation: The title character is sometimes interpreted as trans, due to a backstory of being a clone of Peter Parker that emerged female but still carries all his memories of being a guy, sometimes experiencing identity dysphoria over them.
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Dewicking per TRS decision.


** The relationship between Jessica and Gypsy Moth, a lady villain, is also a bit peculiar. In ''Spider-Woman'' vol. 1 #10, 48, 50, Jessica always tries to befriend the mutant because of their perceived similarities. On the other hand, the Moth's main power is to psychokinetically manipulate fibers. Her favorite moves are either stripping opponents of their clothing or binding them in it. Guess how this looks in battles against Jessica. Worth noting that Gypsy Moth is confirmed [[BiTheWay as being bisexual]] by WordOfGod. That would seem to say a lot about the FoeYay between her and Spider-Woman.

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** The relationship between Jessica and Gypsy Moth, a lady villain, is also a bit peculiar. In ''Spider-Woman'' vol. 1 #10, 48, 50, Jessica always tries to befriend the mutant because of their perceived similarities. On the other hand, the Moth's main power is to psychokinetically manipulate fibers. Her favorite moves are either stripping opponents of their clothing or binding them in it. Guess how this looks in battles against Jessica. Worth noting that Gypsy Moth is confirmed [[BiTheWay as being bisexual]] bisexual by WordOfGod. That would seem to say a lot about the FoeYay between her and Spider-Woman.
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* {{Earworm}}: While the cartoon received an unremarkable instrumental theme song, the Latin American dub felt the need to give her a proper theme song sung by Captain Memo, famous for his theme songs of the cartoons of the time. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zNxMlk6Q-M The theme is quite catchy.]]
--> '' Only you can beat them! You're a mystery! You fight against evil! You fear nothing! You punish the evil-doer with your agility! Spider-Woman is!''

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* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome: Though Spider-Woman is not one of Marvel's iconic, top-tier characters, she was selected and included with nine more famous, legendary ones on a set of [[https://web.archive.org/web/20090509022721/https://www.usps.com/communications/newsroom/2007/sr07_024.htm U.S. postage stamps in 2007]].
* OlderThanTheyThink: Most of the people who complain about changing her suit tend to cite the fact she's only ever had one costume and so it makes no sense to change it. This is true...in that its her only ''superhero'' outfit; as she spent time as a non-costumed crime fighter, in fact almost half her existence of her character's existence was as one (with exception of one single return, she spent ''17'' years in RealLife without a costume, starting 11 years into her existence, and only returned to a costume in 2005 (and even there, technically it was a Skrull in her place for the first four years)). Similar to the criticism that [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] shouldn't use the codename Captain Marvel because she was Ms. Marvel for decades[[note]]not the case, as she went by Binary and later Warbird for most of her existence[[/note]], these complaints might be from fans who only know of their original and recent adventures, and not the stuff in between.



* OlderThanTheyThink: Most of the people who complain about changing her suit tend to cite the fact she's only ever had one costume and so it makes no sense to change it. This is true...in that its her only ''superhero'' outfit; as she spent time as a non-costumed crime fighter, in fact almost half her existence of her character's existence was as one (with exception of one single return, she spent ''17'' years in RealLife without a costume, starting 11 years into her existence, and only returned to a costume in 2005 (and even there, technically it was a Skrull in her place for the first four years)). Similar to the criticism that [[ComicBook/MsMarvel Carol Danvers]] shouldn't use the codename Captain Marvel because she was Ms. Marvel for decades[[note]]not the case, as she went by Binary and later Warbird for most of her existence[[/note]], these complaints might be from fans who only know of their original and recent adventures, and not the stuff in between.
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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Some say this in regards to the [[http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/1811.jpg old suit]], saying it looks ridiculous while [[BrokenBase others]] say this about [[http://i1.cdnds.net/14/51/618x435/comics-spider-woman-02.jpg the new costume]], saying it doesn't fit a superhero.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Some say this in regards to the [[http://www.[[https://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/1811.org/wp-content/uploads/Spider-Woman-Marvel-Comics-Jessica-Drew.jpg old suit]], saying it looks ridiculous while [[BrokenBase others]] say this about [[http://i1.cdnds.net/14/51/618x435/comics-spider-woman-02.jpg the new costume]], saying it doesn't fit a superhero.
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* {{Earworm}}: While the cartoon received an unremarkable instrumental theme song, the Latin American dub felt the need to give her a proper theme song sung by Captain Memo, famous for his theme songs of the cartoons of the time. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zNxMlk6Q-M The theme is quite catchy.]]
--> '' Only you can beat them! You're a mystery! You fight against evil! You fear nothing! You punish the evil-doer with your agility! Spider-Woman is!''
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!! The comic book



* WTHCostumingDepartment: Some say this in regards to the [[http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/1811.jpg old suit]], saying it looks ridiculous while [[BrokenBase others]] say this about [[http://i1.cdnds.net/14/51/618x435/comics-spider-woman-02.jpg the new costume]], saying it doesn't fit a superhero.

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* WTHCostumingDepartment: Some say this in regards to the [[http://www.writeups.org/img/fiche/1811.jpg old suit]], saying it looks ridiculous while [[BrokenBase others]] say this about [[http://i1.cdnds.net/14/51/618x435/comics-spider-woman-02.jpg the new costume]], saying it doesn't fit a superhero.superhero.

!! The animated series
* HilariousInHindsight: "Invasion of the Black Hole" featuring a DarthVaderClone as the villain and the inhabitants of the future seen in "A Crime in Time" resembling Wookies becomes hilariously more appropriate now that both Franchise/StarWars and Creator/MarvelComics are properties of Creator/{{Disney}}.
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** Jess' upcoming pregnancy. A single mother superhero ''is'' a fun and interesting idea, but the cover art implies that [[WhatAnIdiot she'll still be superheroing while heavily pregnant]] and many feel they could have just brought back Julia, who is already a single mother with spider powers, for the idea.

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** Jess' upcoming pregnancy. A single mother superhero ''is'' a fun and interesting idea, but the cover art implies that [[WhatAnIdiot she'll still be superheroing while heavily pregnant]] and many feel they could have just brought back Julia, who is already a single mother with spider powers, for the idea. There's also others who feel it's fairly generic to take a superheroine and give her a baby, and some even find it a bit backwards.

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