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* BrokenBase: Many fans consider ''Sevas Tra'' to be Otep's only good album and refuse to listen to anything later than that. Other fans still love the band.
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* BrokenBase: Many fans consider ''Sevas Tra'' to be Otep's only good album and refuse to listen to anything later than that.that, some fans acknowledge the next two albums as well but disregard the rest. Other fans still love the band.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Take a guess.
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* {{Narm}}: A lot of their videos are supposed to be brutal or thought-provoking, but end up seeming downright cheesy. Ghostflowers and Warhead are good examples of this.
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* {{Narm}}: A lot of their videos are supposed to be brutal or thought-provoking, but end up seeming downright cheesy. Ghostflowers "Ghostflowers" and Warhead "Warhead" are good examples of this.
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* NeverLiveItDown: While she has had something of a reputation for her poor treatment of lower-level supporting acts for quite a while, her treatment of The Convalescence on a 2017 tour stirred up quite a shitstorm on social media and even got her called out by her own fans who believed their story[[note]]To clarify, The Convalescence was kicked off the tour during load-in on the Pittsburgh date. Otep's story was that it was due to entitled, diva-like behavior from them. The Convalescence's story, meanwhile, was that she was an absolute tyrant who forced them to close their merch table during her set, wouldn't even let them be in the same room as her at any time, and rewarded them for their help and attempts at fostering good will and being good touring partners by constantly belittling and insulting them and generally treating them like dirt. She finally kicked them off the tour for not shutting down their merch table during her set several nights before, and that was ''after'' she had previously attempted to kick them off in Florida after Otep's driver accused them of buying weed from venue staff, which in turn was an attempt by the driver to throw them under the bus after he had already called the cops after an argument with Ari Mihalopoulos. The merch table shutdowns were the thing that really got her torn into[[/note]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: While she has had something of a reputation for her poor treatment of lower-level supporting acts for quite a while, her treatment of The Convalescence on a 2017 tour stirred up quite a shitstorm on social media and even got her called out by her own fans who believed their story[[note]]To clarify, The Convalescence was kicked off the tour during load-in on the Pittsburgh date. Otep's story was that it was due to a mix of terrible hygiene that they had repeatedly been spoken to about and entitled, diva-like behavior from them.behavior. The Convalescence's story, meanwhile, was that she was an absolute tyrant who forced them to close their merch table during her set, wouldn't even let them be in the same room as her at any time, and rewarded them for their help and attempts at fostering good will and being good touring partners by constantly belittling and insulting them and generally treating them like dirt. She finally kicked them off the tour for not shutting down their merch table during her set several nights before, and that was ''after'' she had previously attempted to kick them off in Florida after Otep's driver accused them of buying weed from venue staff, which in turn was an attempt by the driver to throw them under the bus after he had already called the cops after an argument with Ari Mihalopoulos. The merch table shutdowns were the thing that really got her torn into[[/note]].
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* NeverLiveItDown: While she has had something of a reputation for her poor treatment of lower-level supporting acts for quite a while, her treatment of The Convalescence on a 2017 tour stirred up quite a shitstorm on social media and even got her called out by her own fans who believed their story[[note]]To clarify, The Convalescence was kicked off the tour during load-in on the Pittsburgh date. Otep's story was that it was due to entitled, diva-like behavior from them. The Convalescence's story, meanwhile, was that she was an absolute tyrant who forced them to close their merch table during her set, wouldn't even let them be in the same room as her at any time, and rewarded them for their help and attempts at fostering good will and being good touring partners by constantly belittling and insulting them and generally treating them like dirt. She finally kicked them off the tour for not shutting down their merch table during her set several nights before, and that was ''after'' she had previously attempted to kick them off in Florida after Otep's driver accused them of buying weed from venue staff, which in turn was an attempt by the driver to throw them under the bus after he had already called the cops after an argument with Ari Mihalopoulos. The merch table shutdowns were the thing that really got her torn into[[/note]].
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** Another reason for the band losing fans is Otep's narcissistic attitude when it comes to reviews like [[http://thenewreview.net/reviews/otep-atavist this]] one. Just read the comments section.
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* MagnumOpus: ''Sevas Tra'' for the vast majority of the fanbase, including those later albums.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who loathe the band still think eViL j is an awesome bassist. In fact, many fans who think the albums ''Avavist'' and ''Hydra'' blame those records' supposedly subpar nature on eViL j's departure.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who loathe the band still think eViL j is an awesome bassist. In fact, many fans who think dislike the albums ''Avavist'' ''Atavist'' and ''Hydra'' blame those records' supposedly subpar nature on eViL j's departure.
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* SignatureSong: Probably "Blood Pigs" for the strictly ''Sevas Tra'' fans mentioned above. "Ghostflowers" and "Smash the Control Machine".Machine" are this for everyone else.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who loathe the band still think eViL j is an awesome bassist. In fact, many believe that his departure is what made the album ''Atavist'' so subpar.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: Even people who loathe the band still think eViL j is an awesome bassist. In fact, many believe that his departure is what made fans who think the album ''Atavist'' so subpar.albums ''Avavist'' and ''Hydra'' blame those records' supposedly subpar nature on eViL j's departure.
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* BrokenBase: Many fans consider ''Sevas Tra'' to be Otep's last good album and refuse to listen to anything later than that. Other fans still love the band.
** ...Wasn't Sevas Tra their ''first'' album?
*** Yep. Most people still think its the last good one.
** ...Wasn't Sevas Tra their ''first'' album?
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** ...Wasn't Sevas Tra their ''first'' album?
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** ...Wasn't Sevas Tra their ''first'' album?
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* FanDumb: Mention that you don't like Otep to any of her fans, and it's automatically assumed it is because you are an ignorant, Fox News watching, homophobic, misogynistic, ultra conservative moron. It doesn't help that Otep herself seems to have this opinion as well.
** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makes Einstein look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into three groups: Those who really don't like their music, those who hate Otep personally (which can itself be divided into reasons, but we won't go there), or those who hate the band because they think women don't belong in metal.
** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makes Einstein look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into three groups: Those who really don't like their music, those who hate Otep personally (which can itself be divided into reasons, but we won't go there), or those who hate the band because they think women don't belong in metal.
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** Also many of the interviews with Otep, which tend to be stuffed with pretentious PurpleProse that end up causing fits of laughter - as mentioned in the AnalogyBackfire on the main page.
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: A lot of their lyrics, but "Jonestown Tea" takes it UpToEleven.
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* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into three groups: Those who really don't like their music, those who hate Otep personally, personally (which can itself be divided into reasons, but we won't go there), or those who hate the band because they think women don't belong in metal.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself to be better than]] [[{{Music/Slipknot}} Corey Taylor]], [[{{Music/Korn}} Jonathan Davis]], and [[{{Music/Incubus}} Brandon Boyd]], [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] Kittie's Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than]] [[{{Music/Slipknot}} Corey Taylor]], [[{{Music/Korn}} Jonathan Davis]], and [[{{Music/Incubus}} Brandon Boyd]], [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] Kittie's Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself to be better than]] [[{{Music/Slipknot}} Corey Taylor]], [[{{Music/Korn}} Jonathan Davis]], and [[{{Music/Incubus}} Brandon Boyd]], [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] Kittie's Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd]], [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] Kittie's Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than than]] [[{{Music/Slipknot}} Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, Taylor]], [[{{Music/Korn}} Jonathan Davis]], and [[{{Music/Incubus}} Brandon Boyd]], [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] Kittie's Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] [[{{Music/Kittie}} Morgan Lander]] for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd]][[http://www.Boyd]], [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] [[{{Music/Kittie}} Kittie's Morgan Lander]] Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] [[{{Kittie}} Morgan Lander]] for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has [[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml gotten pissy at]] [[{{Kittie}} [[{{Music/Kittie}} Morgan Lander]] for being the reason she was on a second stage, and going apeshit on anyone who doesn't like her or agree with her, as noted in the link in the BrokenBase section.
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* FanDumb: Mention that you don't like Otep to any of her fans, and it's automatically assumed it is because you are a, ignorant, Fox News watching, homophobic, misogynistic, ultra conservative moron. It doesn't help that Otep herself seems to have this opinion as well.
** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makes Einstien look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into two groups: Those who really don't like their music or Otep personally, and those who hate the band because they think women and lesbians don't belong in metal, or simply because they think Otep herself is ugly.
** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makes Einstien look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into two groups: Those who really don't like their music or Otep personally, and those who hate the band because they think women and lesbians don't belong in metal, or simply because they think Otep herself is ugly.
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* FanDumb: Mention that you don't like Otep to any of her fans, and it's automatically assumed it is because you are a, an ignorant, Fox News watching, homophobic, misogynistic, ultra conservative moron. It doesn't help that Otep herself seems to have this opinion as well.
** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makesEinstien Einstein look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split intotwo three groups: Those who really don't like their music or music, those who hate Otep personally, and or those who hate the band because they think women and lesbians don't belong in metal, or simply because they think Otep herself is ugly.metal.
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** An interesting example where a phrase is common among the Hatedom rather than the fandom.
* {{Narm}}: A lot of their videos are supposed to be brutal or thought-provoking, but end up seeming downright cheesy. Ghost Flowers is a good example of this.
** Also many of the interviews with Shamaya, which tend to be stuffed with pretentious PurpleProse that end up causing fits of laughter.
* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has been reported[[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd,]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml griping at Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage,]] and going ape on anyone who doesn't like or agree with her, as noted in the link in the broken base section.
** An interesting example where a phrase is common among the Hatedom rather than the fandom.
* {{Narm}}: A lot of their videos are supposed to be brutal or thought-provoking, but end up seeming downright cheesy. Ghost Flowers is a good example of this.
** Also many of the interviews with Shamaya, which tend to be stuffed with pretentious PurpleProse that end up causing fits of laughter.
* SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has been reported[[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd,]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml griping at Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage,]] and going ape on anyone who doesn't like or agree with her, as noted in the link in the broken base section.
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* {{Narm}}: A lot of their videos are supposed to be brutal or thought-provoking, but end up seeming downright cheesy.Ghost Flowers is a Ghostflowers and Warhead are good example examples of this.
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** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makes Einstien look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into two groups: Those who really don't like their music or Otep personally, and those who hate the band because they think women and lesbians don't belong in metal, or simply because they think Otep herself is ugly.
** Not to mention that some claim she is a genius that makes Einstien look like a moron.
* HateDumb: People who don't like Otep are usually split into two groups: Those who really don't like their music or Otep personally, and those who hate the band because they think women and lesbians don't belong in metal, or simply because they think Otep herself is ugly.
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** Also many of the interviews with Shamaya, which tend to be stuffed with pretentious PurpleProse that end up causing fits of laughter.
*SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has been reported[[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd,]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml griping at Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage,]] and going ape on anyone who doesn't like or agree with her, as noted in the link in the broken base section.
** Also many of the interviews with Shamaya, which tend to be stuffed with pretentious PurpleProse that end up causing fits of laughter.
*SmallNameBigEgo: Otep has been reported[[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml proclaimed herself better than Corey Taylor, Jonathon Davis, and Brandon Boyd,]][[http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1457071/20020819/index.jhtml griping at Morgan Lander for being the reason she was on a second stage,]] and going ape on anyone who doesn't like or agree with her, as noted in the link in the broken base section.
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