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* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute to Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.

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* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: OnceOriginalNowCommon: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute to Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.
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** Heck, their entire 90s discography (from ''Lunar Strain'' to Colony'') is nothing but this.

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** Heck, their entire 90s discography (from ''Lunar Strain'' to Colony'') ''Colony'') is nothing but this.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute to Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: OnceOriginalNowOverdone: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute to Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: ''The Jester Race'' is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the MelodicDeathMetal genre

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''The Jester Race'' is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the MelodicDeathMetal genre
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* FaceOfTheBand: Anders Fridén.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The Jester Race is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the MelodicDeathMetal genre
** Heck, their entire 90s discography (Lunar Strain, Jester Race, Whoracle, Colony) is nothing but this.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The ''The Jester Race Race'' is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the MelodicDeathMetal genre
** Heck, their entire 90s discography (Lunar Strain, Jester Race, Whoracle, Colony) (from ''Lunar Strain'' to Colony'') is nothing but this.



* FanonDiscontinuity: As the band is considered one of the Big 4 of Main/MelodicDeathMetal, many metalheads will ignore anything that comes after ''Clayman'' [[note]]Or, if one could be so generous, anything right after ''Reroute to Remain''[[/note]].

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* FanonDiscontinuity: As the band is considered one of the Big 4 of Main/MelodicDeathMetal, many metalheads will ignore anything that comes after ''Clayman'' [[note]]Or, if one could be so generous, anything right after ''Reroute to Remain''[[/note]].



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: There are parts of "Here Until Forever" that sound eerily like Music/BringMeTheHorizon's "Drown", particularly regarding the hook.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: There are parts Parts of "Here Until Forever" that sound eerily like close to Music/BringMeTheHorizon's "Drown", particularly regarding the hook.chorus.



* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing more melodeath elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so, and whether the band would continue pursuing the fusion of old and new sounds in future releases.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show showed signs of doing this, reintroducing more melodeath elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most the bulk of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material.material [[note]]''Come Clarity'' aside[[/note]]. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so, and whether the band would continue pursuing the fusion of old and new sounds in future releases.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The Jester Race is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the Music/{{MelodicDeathMetal}} genre.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The Jester Race is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the Music/{{MelodicDeathMetal}} genre. MelodicDeathMetal genre
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* AwesomeMusic: The Jester Race is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the Music/MelodicDeathMetal genre.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The Jester Race is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the Music/MelodicDeathMetal Music/{{MelodicDeathMetal}} genre.
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* AwesomeMusic: The Jester Race is considered a masterpiece and landmark in the Music/MelodicDeathMetal genre.
** Heck, their entire 90s discography (Lunar Strain, Jester Race, Whoracle, Colony) is nothing but this.
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** Say what you will about ''A Sense of Purpose'' and ''Sounds of a Playground Fading'', but the illustrations for both albums look splendid.

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** Say what you will about ''A Sense of Purpose'' and Purpose'', ''Sounds of a Playground Fading'', Fading'' and ''Foregone'', but the illustrations for both the three albums look splendid.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute To Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.

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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute To to Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.

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* FandomRivalry: With Music/DarkTranquillity and Music/AtTheGates, for whatever reason. Ultimately unfounded, however, as the members of each of the "Big Three" Swedish melodeath bands are all friends, have toured together, and have helped each other from time to time.
** Also between In Flames and The Halo Effect, due to the latter being comprised of former In Flames members who have continued to play in the style of more "classic" melodeath. This despite Anders Friden going on record that there is no such rivalry between the bands' respective members (he is friends will all past members of In Flames), and guitarist Niclas Engelin remaining in the official In Flames lineup.

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With Music/DarkTranquillity and Music/AtTheGates, for whatever reason. Ultimately unfounded, however, as the members of each of the "Big Three" Swedish melodeath bands are all friends, have toured together, and have helped each other from time to time.
** Also between In Flames and Fans also have a notable rivalry with the band's side project The Halo Effect, due to the latter it being comprised of former In Flames members who have continued to play in the style of more "classic" melodeath. This despite is in spite of Anders Friden going on record stating that there is there's no such rivalry between the bands' respective members (he is (he's always been friends will with all past members of In Flames), and guitarist Niclas Engelin (who joined before ''Reroute to Remain'') remaining in the official In Flames lineup.
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*** While ''[=RtR=]'' is the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growls becoming more scream-y alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.

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*** ** While ''[=RtR=]'' is the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growls becoming more scream-y alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.
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** When they changed their sound with their 2002 release ''Reroute to Remain'', many longtime fans who had been following the band since they first emerged reacted negatively to their change in style, citing it as 'not being heavy enough', and describing Anders' clean singing as [[{{Wangst}} pussy]]. However, some fans loved the new sound, at times even more than the old. This conflict has led to many internet wars, particularly on heavy metal websites and on Website/YouTube videos.

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** When they changed their sound with their 2002 release ''Reroute to Remain'', many longtime fans who had been following the band since they first emerged reacted negatively to their change in style, citing it as 'not being heavy enough', and describing Anders' clean singing as [[{{Wangst}} pussy]]. However, some fans loved the new sound, at times even more than the old. This conflict has led to many internet wars, particularly on heavy metal websites and on Website/YouTube videos.



*** And even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have reacted to the post-Jesper albums -- wherein the band pretty much ditched every trace of melodeath -- rather coolly.

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*** And even ** Even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have reacted to the post-Jesper albums -- wherein the band pretty much ditched every trace of melodeath -- rather coolly.
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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: There are parts of "Here Until Forever" that sound eerily like "[[Music/BringMeTheHorizon Drown]]", particularly regarding the hook.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most of the band's recent albums have been met with this as a result of the band's shift away from the melodic death metal to alternative metal. This in turn has led to some fans moving over to rival acts such as Music/AtTheGates or Music/TheHaunted.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: There are parts of "Here Until Forever" that sound eerily like "[[Music/BringMeTheHorizon Drown]]", Music/BringMeTheHorizon's "Drown", particularly regarding the hook.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Most of the band's recent albums have been met with this as a result of the band's their shift away from the melodic death metal to alternative metal. This in turn has led to some fans moving over to rival acts such as Music/AtTheGates or Music/TheHaunted.

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* SugarWiki/AwesomeArt: Say what you will about ''A Sense of Purpose'', but the illustrations for said album look splendid.

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Say what you will about ''A Sense of Purpose'', Purpose'' and ''Sounds of a Playground Fading'', but the illustrations for said album both albums look splendid.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing more melodeath elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so, and whether the band would continue pursuing the fusion of old and new sounds in future releases.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing more melodeath elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so, and whether the band would continue pursuing the fusion of old and new sounds in future releases.releases.
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* FandomRivalry: With Music/DarkTranquillity and Music/AtTheGates, for whatever reason. Ultimately unfounded, however, as the members of each of the "Big Three" Swedish melodeath bands are all friends, have toured together, and have helped each other from time to time.
** Also between In Flames and The Halo Effect, due to the latter being comprised of former In Flames members who have continued to play in the style of more "classic" melodeath. This despite Anders Friden going on record that there is no such rivalry between the bands' respective members (he is friends will all past members of In Flames), and guitarist Niclas Engelin remaining in the official In Flames lineup.
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** "Behind Space". That is all. For an old In Flames fan (like, who met them with ''Lunar Strain'') this is THE EpicRiff from them.

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** "Behind Space". That is all. For an fans of the old In Flames fan (like, who met them with Flames, and ''Lunar Strain'') Strain'' in particular, this is THE EpicRiff from them.



* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing more melodeath elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing more melodeath elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.so, and whether the band would continue pursuing the fusion of old and new sounds in future releases.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: Younger fans of MelodicDeathMetal and {{metalcore}} have little to no idea of what made In Flames' music so special, and those who have not heard their pre-''Reroute To Remain'' albums may as well easily mistake them for any early-2000s metalcore band.


* PainfulRhyme: A common complaint regarding Anders' lyrical work during ''Siren Charms'', particularly on "Through Oblivion":
--> '''Anders:''' My destination, my mission, my intuition
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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing a more melodeath type sound and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing a more melodeath type sound elements in a way that invites comparison to Music/{{Soilwork}} in particular, and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.
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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''RtR'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.

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* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, reintroducing a more melodeath type sound and being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''RtR'' post-''[=RtR=]'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.
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* {{Wangst}}: The lyrics on their material from ''Reroute to Remain'' onward (and to a much lesser extent, ''Clayman'') frequently stray into this.

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* {{Wangst}}: The lyrics on their material from ''Reroute to Remain'' onward (and to a much lesser extent, ''Clayman'') frequently stray into this.this.
* WinBackTheCrowd: ''I, the Mask'' is starting to show signs of doing this, being vastly more well-received than most of their other post-''RtR'' material. Only time will tell whether it succeeds in doing so.
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*** While ''RtR'' is the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growls becoming more screamy alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.

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*** While ''RtR'' ''[=RtR=]'' is the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growls becoming more screamy scream-y alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.
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** While RTR is the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growls becoming more screamy alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.

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** *** While RTR ''RtR'' is the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growls becoming more screamy alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.
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* {{Wangst}}: The lyrics on their material ''Reroute to Remain'' onward (and to a much lesser extent, ''Clayman'') frequently stray into this.

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* {{Wangst}}: The lyrics on their material from ''Reroute to Remain'' onward (and to a much lesser extent, ''Clayman'') frequently stray into this.
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*** And even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have reacted to the post-Jesper albums -- where the band have pretty much ditched all traces of melodeath -- rather coolly.
** While RTR is arguably the album that solidified it, the band was drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling). While the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growl becoming more screamy and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.

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*** And even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have reacted to the post-Jesper albums -- where the band have pretty much ditched all traces of melodeath -- rather coolly.
** While RTR is arguably the album that solidified it, it can be argued the band was had been drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling). While mumbling), while the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growl growls becoming more screamy alongside higher in tone and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.cake.
*** And even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have reacted to the post-Jesper albums -- wherein the band pretty much ditched every trace of melodeath -- rather coolly.



* FanonDiscontinuity: As the band is considered one of the Big 4 of Main/MelodicDeathMetal, many metalheads will ignore anything that comes after ''Clayman''. [[note]]Or, if one could be so generous, anything right after ''Reroute to Remain''[[/note]]

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* FanonDiscontinuity: As the band is considered one of the Big 4 of Main/MelodicDeathMetal, many metalheads will ignore anything that comes after ''Clayman''. ''Clayman'' [[note]]Or, if one could be so generous, anything right after ''Reroute to Remain''[[/note]]Remain''[[/note]].



* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: "Here Until Forever" just sounds like a neutered version of "[[Music/BringMeTheHorizon Drown]]", particularly in regards to its hook.

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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong: There are parts of "Here Until Forever" just sounds that sound eerily like a neutered version of "[[Music/BringMeTheHorizon Drown]]", particularly in regards to its regarding the hook.



* {{Wangst}}: The lyrics on their newer material frequently stray into this.

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* {{Wangst}}: The lyrics on their newer material ''Reroute to Remain'' onward (and to a much lesser extent, ''Clayman'') frequently stray into this.
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*** And even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have been received the post-Jesper albums-where the band have pretty much ditched all traces of melodeath-rather coolly.
** While RTR is arguably the album that solidified it, the band was drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling). While the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growl becoming more screamy and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute To Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: While this doesn't necessarily reflect badly on the album itself, ''Lunar Strain'' is this for the band. During the production of this album In Flames was mostly an experimental side-project by members of Dark Tranquility, and Mikael Stanne performed the vocals instead of Anders Friden. The two would later switch positions, with Anders performing permanently as the vocalist for In Flames starting in '95 and Mikael Stanne performing the vocals for Dark Tranquility. Consequently, ''Lunar Strain'' sounds much different from other albums in the band's discography, although the emphasis on melodic content and folk influences is readily apparent.

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*** And even the fans who defended the band's post-''Reroute'' work have been received reacted to the post-Jesper albums-where albums -- where the band have pretty much ditched all traces of melodeath-rather melodeath -- rather coolly.
** While RTR is arguably the album that solidified it, the band was drifting towards this stylistic change already since 1999's ''Colony''. That was the first In Flames album to feature clean singing (until then, their music consisted strictly of growling and some occasional mumbling). While the songs were noticeably less abrasive and more refined than on the prior three albums. ''Clayman'' was an even further departure from the band's roots, with Anders' growl becoming more screamy and the music putting greater emphasis on catchiness. ''Reroute To to Remain'' was simply the icing on the cake.
* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: While this doesn't necessarily reflect badly on the album itself, ''Lunar Strain'' is this for the band. During the production of this album In Flames was mostly an experimental side-project by members of Dark Tranquility, Tranquillity, and Mikael Stanne performed the vocals instead of Anders Friden. Fridén. The two would later switch positions, with Anders performing permanently as the vocalist for In Flames starting in '95 and Mikael Stanne performing the vocals for Dark Tranquility.Tranquillity. Consequently, ''Lunar Strain'' sounds much different from other albums in the band's discography, although the emphasis on melodic content and folk influences is readily apparent.



* FaceOfTheBand: Anders Friden.
* FanonDiscontinuity: As the band is considered one of the Big 4 of Main/MelodicDeathMetal, many metalheads will ignore anything that comes after ''Clayman''.
* PainfulRhyme: A common complaint regarding Anders' lyrical work on ''Siren Charms'', particularly on "Through Oblivion":

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* FaceOfTheBand: Anders Friden.
Fridén.
* FanonDiscontinuity: As the band is considered one of the Big 4 of Main/MelodicDeathMetal, many metalheads will ignore anything that comes after ''Clayman''.
''Clayman''. [[note]]Or, if one could be so generous, anything right after ''Reroute to Remain''[[/note]]
* PainfulRhyme: A common complaint regarding Anders' lyrical work on during ''Siren Charms'', particularly on "Through Oblivion":



* SignatureSong: "Behind Space," "Moonshield", "Only For the Weak," "Take This Life", "Deliver Us".

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* SignatureSong: "Behind Space," "Moonshield", "Only For for the Weak," "Take This Life", "Deliver Us".

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