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* HarsherInHindsight: The Discordians blow up a hole through the Pentagon.

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* HilariousInHindsight: A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off stereotypical names for fictional bands; one of the groups so named is Music/{{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off stereotypical names for fictional bands; one of the groups so named is Music/{{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.group.
** One of the many characters bearing a PunnyName is detective Saul Goodman. Over three decades later, that name would be made famous by [[Series/BreakingBad someone on the other side of the law.]]
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Hagbard runs down a list of indications that society is becoming increasingly totalitarian: "No-knock searches, stop and frisk laws, universal surveillance, automatic fingerprinting of anyone arrested even before they are charged with a crime..." which sounds suspiciously like modern America.


* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.
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Missed a Funny Aneuyurism Moment. Good thing they were both misuse anyway.


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** A scene where UsefulNotes/ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]].
** The terrorist attack on a rock concert is also uncomfortable in the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks.
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*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.
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** A scene where ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]].

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** A scene where ThePentagon UsefulNotes/ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]].
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* FreudWasRight: Or at least onto something. There's also a lot of penis/vagina symbolism, and that's not counting the many scenes where people are outright fucking.
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** The terrorist attack on a rock concert is also uncomfortable int the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks.

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** The terrorist attack on a rock concert is also uncomfortable int in the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks.

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: A scene where ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: FunnyAneurysmMoment:
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* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians, Creator/Ayn Rand... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.

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* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians, Creator/Ayn Rand...Christians... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.



*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under
SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.

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*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under
under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.

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* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians, Creator/Ayn Rand... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.



*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.

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*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under under
SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.below.
* FreudWasRight: Or at least onto something. There's also a lot of penis/vagina symbolism, and that's not counting the many scenes where people are outright fucking.


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* SlidingScaleOfLibertarianismAndAuthoritarianism: Take a guess.
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* MagnumOpus: Easily the most popular and influential work of either author. A rare case where a collaborative novel can claim such a title.
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* ValuesResonance: Censorship, authoritarianism, and pigeonholing people into categories are still big issues in today's America. The book's messages, {{Anvilicious while not exactly subtle}}, are still as relevant as they were back in the [[TheSeventies the '70s]].

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* ValuesResonance: Censorship, authoritarianism, and pigeonholing people into categories are still big issues in today's America. The book's messages, {{Anvilicious while not exactly subtle}}, subtle, are still as relevant as they were back in the [[TheSeventies the '70s]].
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* ValuesResonance: Censorship, authoritarianism, and pigeonholing people into categories are still big issues in today's America. The book's messages, {{Anvilicious while not exactly subtle}}, are still as relevant as they were back in the [[TheSeventies the '70s]].
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* MagnumOpus: Easily the most popular and influential work of either author. A rare case where a collaborative novel can claim such a title.
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Multiple examples:
** “Authoritarianism is bad.”
** “Classifying people into arbitrary categories of ‘good’ and ‘evil’ only leads to BlackAndWhiteInsanity.”
** “Unforgiveness is bad.”
*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: At one point, it's claimed that IanFleming knew about the Illuminati and included them as SPECTRE in [[Literature/JamesBond his books]]. The problem? As anyone who's read them knows, SPECTRE ''was not in'' the books (Bond fought the real-life SMERSH instead), only the movies.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: At one point, it's claimed that IanFleming knew about the Illuminati and included them as SPECTRE in [[Literature/JamesBond his books]]. The problem? As anyone who's read them knows, SPECTRE ''was not in'' the books (Bond fought the real-life SMERSH instead), only the movies.
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* HilariousInHindsight: A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.

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* HilariousInHindsight: A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] bands; one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}.Music/{{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.
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* MemeticMutation: [[spoiler:fnord]]
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* AdaptationDisplacement -- More people know of Discordianism through ''Illuminatus!'' than know of it through PrincipiaDiscordia
* FunnyAneurysmMoment -- A scene where ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]]
* HilariousInHindsight -- A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.

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* AdaptationDisplacement -- AdaptationDisplacement: More people know of Discordianism UsefulNotes/{{Discordianism}} through ''Illuminatus!'' than know of it through PrincipiaDiscordia
''Literature/PrincipiaDiscordia''.
* FunnyAneurysmMoment -- FunnyAneurysmMoment: A scene where ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]]
guys]].
* HilariousInHindsight -- HilariousInHindsight: A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.
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* HilariousInHindsight -- A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example {{HP Lovecraft}} were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.

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* HilariousInHindsight -- A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example {{HP Lovecraft}} Creator/HPLovecraft were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.
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* ReverseFunnyAneurysm -- A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example {{HP Lovecraft}} were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.

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* ReverseFunnyAneurysm HilariousInHindsight -- A chapter about a rock festival said to be bigger than Woodstock spends over a page listing off [[AGoodNameForARockBand stereotypical names for fictional bands;]] one of the groups so named is {{Nirvana}}. In fact, not all the band names are fictional; for example {{HP Lovecraft}} were a real sixties garage rock group, and (the original) Nirvana were a sixties psych group.

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