History YMMV / Illuminatus

18th Nov '16 6:32:05 PM MightyMatilda
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** The terrorist attack on a rock concert is also uncomfortable int the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks.

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** The terrorist attack on a rock concert is also uncomfortable int in the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks.
1st May '16 3:42:47 PM DavidDelony
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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: A scene where ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]].

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* FunnyAneurysmMoment: FunnyAneurysmMoment:
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A scene where ThePentagon is targeted by a terrorist bombing [[spoiler:possibly by the allies of the good guys]].guys]].
** The terrorist attack on a rock concert is also uncomfortable int the wake of the November 2015 Paris attacks.
20th Feb '16 9:09:29 PM Roland_Dhalgren
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* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians, Creator/Ayn Rand... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.

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* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians, Creator/Ayn Rand...Christians... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.



*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under
SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.

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*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under
under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.
20th Feb '16 9:08:16 PM Roland_Dhalgren
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* AcceptableTargets: Conservatives, liberals, socialists, libertarians, feminists, communists, Christians, Creator/Ayn Rand... It would be easier to list things the book ''doesn't'' fire shots at.



*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.

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*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under under
SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.below.
* FreudWasRight: Or at least onto something. There's also a lot of penis/vagina symbolism, and that's not counting the many scenes where people are outright fucking.


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* SlidingScaleOfLibertarianismAndAuthoritarianism: Take a guess.
8th Feb '16 6:40:55 AM Freshmeat
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* MagnumOpus: Easily the most popular and influential work of either author. A rare case where a collaborative novel can claim such a title.
31st Jan '16 7:20:04 AM Roland_Dhalgren
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* ValuesResonance: Censorship, authoritarianism, and pigeonholing people into categories are still big issues in today's America. The book's messages, {{Anvilicious while not exactly subtle}}, are still as relevant as they were back in the [[TheSeventies the '70s]].

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* ValuesResonance: Censorship, authoritarianism, and pigeonholing people into categories are still big issues in today's America. The book's messages, {{Anvilicious while not exactly subtle}}, subtle, are still as relevant as they were back in the [[TheSeventies the '70s]].
31st Jan '16 7:18:26 AM Roland_Dhalgren
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* ValuesResonance: Censorship, authoritarianism, and pigeonholing people into categories are still big issues in today's America. The book's messages, {{Anvilicious while not exactly subtle}}, are still as relevant as they were back in the [[TheSeventies the '70s]].
30th Jan '16 5:18:34 PM Roland_Dhalgren
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* MagnumOpus: Easily the most popular and influential work of either author. A rare case where a collaborative novel can claim such a title.
12th Sep '15 3:11:40 PM Marowmerowmer
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* {{Anvilicious}}: Multiple examples:
** “Authoritarianism is bad.”
** “Classifying people into arbitrary categories of ‘good’ and ‘evil’ only leads to BlackAndWhiteInsanity.”
** “Unforgiveness is bad.”
*** Of course, given the nature of the story and the RealLife [[UsefulNotes/TheSixties historical]] [[UsefulNotes/ColdWar background]], these could all easily fall under SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped. Can also [[ValuesResonance ring true now]], what with UsefulNotes/TheWarOnTerror, even with the FunnyAneurysmMoment below.
22nd Apr '13 6:57:50 PM TheGreatUnknown
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* CriticalResearchFailure: At one point, it's claimed that IanFleming knew about the Illuminati and included them as SPECTRE in [[Literature/JamesBond his books]]. The problem? As anyone who's read them knows, SPECTRE ''was not in'' the books (Bond fought the real-life SMERSH instead), only the movies.
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