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** Gerhardt was among the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined ComicBook/TheHood's army during ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, and was among those vying for the bounty placed on Agent ComicBook/{{Venom}}'s head by Lord Ogre.

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** Gerhardt was among the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined ComicBook/TheHood's army during ''ComicBook/CivilWar''.''ComicBook/CivilWar2006''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, and was among those vying for the bounty placed on Agent ComicBook/{{Venom}}'s head by Lord Ogre.
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* TearJerker: In the ''Foolkiller: White Angels'' miniseries: Darius Goode's PlotTriggeringDeath. After the HopeSpot of this ex-con finally getting a job, he is hunted down by a white supremacist gang and, after his own mother denies him entry into his former home, he is hung. His body is found by police, holding a doll and a message for his sister apologizing for his absence from her life.

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* TearJerker: In the ''Foolkiller: White Angels'' miniseries: Darius Goode's PlotTriggeringDeath. After the HopeSpot of this ex-con finally getting a job, he is hunted down by a white supremacist gang and, after his own mother denies him entry into his former home, he is hung.hanged. His body is found by police, holding a doll and a message for his sister apologizing for his absence from her life.
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* MemeticMutation: The various rants in the miniseries, but especially:

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* MemeticMutation: The various rants in the first miniseries, but especially:
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* TearJerker: In the ''Foolkiller: White Angels'' miniseries: Darius Goode's PlotTriggeringDeath. After the HopeSpot of this ex-con finally getting a job, he is hunted down by a white supremacist gang and, after his own mother denies him entry into his former home, he is hung. His body is found by police, holding a doll and a message for his sister apologizing for his absence from her life.
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* CompleteMonster: Gregory Sallinger, appearing in the third season of ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', is a man defined by [[GreenEyedMonster envy]] and spite towards anyone he feels has more than him. A vicious sociopath from a young age who hated his "talentless hack" of a brother, Sallinger [[spoiler:[[WouldHurtAChild murdered a child]] and taunted his parents with photos]]. Growing up, Sallinger [[ThePerfectionist fixated on those he felt were mediocrities]], torturing and [[SerialKiller murdering seven people]] while mocking them with the moment of their despair. Later torturing Jessica and her lover Erik with intent to murder them, Sallinger kidnaps [[spoiler:Dorothy, Trish's mother and Jessica's adoptive mother,]] and tortures her to death. A devious sadist out to hurt others to embiggen himself, Sallinger shows the darkest side of humanity.

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In Name Only and Shout Out aren't YMMV.


* InNameOnly: This is the attitude many fans have towards the Creator/MarvelMax Foolkiller.



* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/{{Jessica Jones|2015}}'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield likes to call a lot of people "phonies".

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* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/{{Jessica Jones|2015}}'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield likes to call a lot of people "phonies".----

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* CompleteMonster: Gregory Sallinger, appearing in the third season of ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', is a man defined by envy and spite towards anyone he feels has more than him. A vicious sociopath from a young age who hated his "talentless hack" of a brother, Sallinger murdered a child and taunted his parents with photos. Growing up, Sallinger fixated on those he felt were mediocrities, torturing and murdering seven people while mocking them with the moment of their despair. Later torturing Jessica and her lover Erik with intent to murder them, Sallinger kidnaps Dorothy, Trish's mother and Jessica's adoptive mother, and tortures her to death. A devious sadist out to hurt others to embiggen himself, Sallinger shows the darkest side of humanity.

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* CompleteMonster: Gregory Sallinger, appearing in the third season of ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', is a man defined by envy [[GreenEyedMonster envy]] and spite towards anyone he feels has more than him. A vicious sociopath from a young age who hated his "talentless hack" of a brother, Sallinger [[spoiler:[[WouldHurtAChild murdered a child child]] and taunted his parents with photos. photos]]. Growing up, Sallinger [[ThePerfectionist fixated on those he felt were mediocrities, mediocrities]], torturing and [[SerialKiller murdering seven people people]] while mocking them with the moment of their despair. Later torturing Jessica and her lover Erik with intent to murder them, Sallinger kidnaps Dorothy, [[spoiler:Dorothy, Trish's mother and Jessica's adoptive mother, mother,]] and tortures her to death. A devious sadist out to hurt others to embiggen himself, Sallinger shows the darkest side of humanity.
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** Gerhardt was among the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined ComicBook/TheHood's army during ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, and was among those vying for the bounty placed on Agent ComicBook/{{Venom}}'s head by Lord Ogre.

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** Gerhardt was among the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined ComicBook/TheHood's army during ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, ComicBook/{{Deadpool}}, and was among those vying for the bounty placed on Agent ComicBook/{{Venom}}'s head by Lord Ogre.
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* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/JessicaJones'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield likes to call a lot of people "phonies".

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* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/JessicaJones'' ''Series/{{Jessica Jones|2015}}'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield likes to call a lot of people "phonies".
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* CompleteMonster: Gregory Sallinger, appearing in the third season of ''Series/JessicaJones2015'', is a man defined by envy and spite towards anyone he feels has more than him. A vicious sociopath from a young age who hated his "talentless hack" of a brother, Sallinger murdered a child and taunted his parents with photos. Growing up, Sallinger fixated on those he felt were mediocrities, torturing and murdering seven people while mocking them with the moment of their despair. Later torturing Jessica and her lover Erik with intent to murder them, Sallinger kidnaps Dorothy, Trish's mother and Jessica's adoptive mother, and tortures her to death. A devious sadist out to hurt others to embiggen himself, Sallinger shows the darkest side of humanity.
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* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/JessicaJones'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield like to call a lot of people "phonies".

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* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/JessicaJones'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield like likes to call a lot of people "phonies".
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--> '''Gerhardt:''' The garbage is home to me. I thrive in it. It strengthens me.

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--> '''Gerhardt:''' The garbage is home to me. I thrive in it. It strengthens me.me.
* ShoutOut: Possibly to J.D. Salinger in the ''Series/JessicaJones'' TV series. [[ComicBookMoviesDontUseCodenames The reimagined Gregory Salinger]] instead of going after "fools", he goes after those whom he deems frauds or cheaters. Compare this to [[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye J.D.'s classic book]] in which Holden Caulfield like to call a lot of people "phonies".

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The psychiatrist job was just a set-up by a villain who wanted to use him as a pawn.


* CriticalResearchFailure: In the 2016-17 Marvel NOW ''Foolkiller'' miniseries, Salinger is now allegedly a therapist with degree in psychiatry. During his appearances in ''Deadpool and the Mercs for Money'', he made references to also going to graduate school for psychiatry. It would be more appropriate to say that Salinger has a degree in psychology. A psychiatry degree involves first qualifying to be an M.D. (Medical Doctor) and then additional training in psychiatry. You need to be an M.D. because this is required to prescribe medication of any kind. Greg does not give the impression that he has spent the years needed for an M.D., residency, and years of additional psychiatric training and his history makes it somewhat improbable. With his apparent education (which seems to be a Master's Degree at most), he may barely still qualify as a psychological therapist but he would most likely be working in tandem with a psychiatrist. And, again, given his own history, as well as the fact that he would be relatively new to the practice, he would definitely be working under heavy supervision.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In the 2016-17 Marvel NOW ''Foolkiller'' miniseries, Salinger is now allegedly a therapist with degree in psychiatry. During his appearances in Deadpool, he made references to also going to graduate school for psychiatry. It would be more appropriate to say that Salinger has a degree in psychology. A psychiatry degree involves first qualifying to be an M.D. (Medical Doctor) and then additional training in psychiatry. You need to be an M.D. because this is required to prescribe medication of any kind. Greg does not give the impression that he has spent the years needed for an M.D., residency, and years of additional psychiatric training. And his history makes it somewhat improbable. With his apparent education (which seems to be a Master's Degree at most), he may barely still qualify as a psychological therapist but he would most likely be working in tandem with a psychiatrist. And, again, given his own history, as well as the fact that he would be relatively new to the practice, he would definitely be working under heavy supervision.

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* CriticalResearchFailure: In the 2016-17 Marvel NOW ''Foolkiller'' miniseries, Salinger is now allegedly a therapist with degree in psychiatry. During his appearances in Deadpool, ''Deadpool and the Mercs for Money'', he made references to also going to graduate school for psychiatry. It would be more appropriate to say that Salinger has a degree in psychology. A psychiatry degree involves first qualifying to be an M.D. (Medical Doctor) and then additional training in psychiatry. You need to be an M.D. because this is required to prescribe medication of any kind. Greg does not give the impression that he has spent the years needed for an M.D., residency, and years of additional psychiatric training. And training and his history makes it somewhat improbable. With his apparent education (which seems to be a Master's Degree at most), he may barely still qualify as a psychological therapist but he would most likely be working in tandem with a psychiatrist. And, again, given his own history, as well as the fact that he would be relatively new to the practice, he would definitely be working under heavy supervision.
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* CriticalResearchFailure: In the 2016-17 Marvel NOW ''Foolkiller'' miniseries, Salinger is now allegedly a therapist with degree in psychiatry. During his appearances in Deadpool, he made references to also going to graduate school for psychiatry. It would be more appropriate to say that Salinger has a degree in psychology. A psychiatry degree involves first qualifying to be an M.D. (Medical Doctor) and then additional training in psychiatry. You need to be an M.D. because this is required to prescribe medication of any kind. Greg does not give the impression that he has spent the years needed for an M.D., residency, and years of additional psychiatric training. And his history makes it somewhat improbable. With his apparent education (which seems to be a Master's Degree at most), he may barely still qualify as a psychological therapist but he would most likely be working in tandem with a psychiatrist. And, again, given his own history, as well as the fact that he would be relatively new to the practice, he would definitely be working under heavy supervision.
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* KineticWeaponsAreJustBetter: Greg and Kurt have both appeared to have given up the purification raygun and adopted conventional firearms and weapons.
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* CharacterDerailment: Kurt went from an intelligent, calculating, and strategic vigilante to just plain AxCrazy.

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* ExiledFromContinuity: Greg and Kurt have both appeared to have given up the purification raygun and adopted conventional firearms and weapons.

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* ExiledFromContinuity: CharacterDerailment: Kurt went from an intelligent, calculating, and strategic vigilante to just plain AxCrazy.
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Greg and Kurt have both appeared to have given up the purification raygun and adopted conventional firearms and weapons.
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* CharacterDerailment: In recent years, Gerhardt and Salinger have showed up in issues of {{Deadpool}}. Currently, Salinger is a member of Deadpool's Mercs for Money. In keeping with Deadpool's comedic nature, this team consists of various C and D list characters who are considered either a failure or a joke.
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** Gerhardt hates Deadpool and has attacked him while institutionalized. The reason, Gerhardt had an unrequited crush on his therapist, Dr. Ella Whitby. Whitby, however, had an unrequited crush on Deadpool. Deadpool goes on to humiliate Gerhardt and escape from the institution.
** Greg Salinger eventually joins Deadpool's ''Mercs For Money''. Evidently, Salinger isn't aware of the negative history between Deadpool and fellow Foolkiller Gerhardt.
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* CharacterDerailment: In recent years, Gerhardt and Salinger have showed up in issues of {{Deadpool}}. Currently, Salinger is a member of Deadpool's Mercs for Money. In keeping with Deadpool's comedic nature, this team consists of various C and D list characters who are considered either a failure or a joke.



** Gerhardt hates Deadpool and has attacked him while institutionalized. The reason, Gerhardt had an unrequited crush on his therapist, Dr. Ella Whitby. Whitby, however, had an unrequited crush on Deadpool. Deadpool goes on to humiliate Gerhardt and escape from the institution.
** Greg Salinger eventually joins Deadpool's ''Mercs For Money''. Evidently, Salinger isn't aware of the negative history between Deadpool and fellow Foolkiller Gerhardt.



--> '''Gerhardt:''' The garbage is home to me. I thrive in it. It strengthens me.

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--> '''Gerhardt:''' The garbage is home to me. I thrive in it. It strengthens me.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: This is how most Foolkiller fans treat any post 1991 appearances of Salinger of Gerhardt, in which they clearly act out of character:
** The bizarre Lunatik episode in which a renegade FBI agent allegedly had Salinger temporarily released so that he could frame Comicbook/GhostRider expy Vengeance. The Foolkiller's method of executing his victims by burning is similar to Vengeance's. That's all that the two have in common however, except for the fact that Vengeance does not kill, he only torments.
** Gerhardt was amongst the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined The Hood's army during ''Civil War''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with Deadpool and losing.
* HarsherInHindsight: The 1990-91 Foolkiller limited series was wrapping up around the same time that Jeffrey Dahmer and his crimes were revealed. Comics have to be written and illustrated months ahead of their publishing date so this had to be just coincidental. However, the ninth issue was released in July, the same month that Dahmer was apprehended. Although readers knew all along, it was in this issue that police discovered the identity of the Foolkiller.
* InNameOnly: This is the attitude many fans take towards the Marvel Max Foolkiller.

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* FanonDiscontinuity: FanonDiscontinuity:
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This is how most Foolkiller fans treat any post 1991 a lot of the post-1991 appearances of Salinger of or Gerhardt, in which they clearly act out of character:
with major examples being:
** The bizarre Lunatik episode in which a renegade FBI agent allegedly had Salinger temporarily released so that he could frame Comicbook/GhostRider expy character Vengeance. The Foolkiller's method of executing his victims by burning is similar to Vengeance's. That's Vengeance's; that's all that the two have in common however, except for the fact that as Vengeance does not kill, he only torments.
** Gerhardt was amongst among the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined The Hood's ComicBook/TheHood's army during ''Civil War''. ''ComicBook/CivilWar''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with Deadpool SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}, and losing.
* HarsherInHindsight: The 1990-91 Foolkiller limited series
was wrapping up around among those vying for the same time that Jeffrey Dahmer and his crimes were revealed. Comics have to be written and illustrated months ahead of their publishing date so this had to be just coincidental. However, the ninth issue was released in July, the same month that Dahmer was apprehended. Although readers knew all along, it was in this issue that police discovered the identity of the Foolkiller.
bounty placed on Agent ComicBook/{{Venom}}'s head by Lord Ogre.
* InNameOnly: This is the attitude many fans take have towards the Marvel Max Foolkiller. Creator/MarvelMax Foolkiller.
* MemeticMutation: The various rants in the miniseries, but especially:
--> '''Gerhardt:''' The garbage is home to me. I thrive in it. It strengthens me.
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* InNameOnly: This is the attitude many fans take towards the Marvel Max Foolkiller.
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** The bizarre Lunatik episode in which a renegade FBI agent allegedly had Salinger temporarily released so that he could frame Comicbook/GhostRider expy Vengeance. The Foolkiller's method of executing his victims by burning is similar to Vengeance's. That's all that the two have in common however.
** Gerhardt was amongst the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined The Hood's army during ''Civil War''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with Deadpool.

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** The bizarre Lunatik episode in which a renegade FBI agent allegedly had Salinger temporarily released so that he could frame Comicbook/GhostRider expy Vengeance. The Foolkiller's method of executing his victims by burning is similar to Vengeance's. That's all that the two have in common however.
however, except for the fact that Vengeance does not kill, he only torments.
** Gerhardt was amongst the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined The Hood's army during ''Civil War''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with Deadpool.Deadpool and losing.
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* FanonDiscontinuity: This is how most Foolkiller fans treat any post 1991 appearances of Salinger of Gerhardt, in which they clearly act out of character:
** The bizarre Lunatik episode in which a renegade FBI agent allegedly had Salinger temporarily released so that he could frame Comicbook/GhostRider expy Vengeance. The Foolkiller's method of executing his victims by burning is similar to Vengeance's. That's all that the two have in common however.
** Gerhardt was amongst the many villains who escaped from The Raft and joined The Hood's army during ''Civil War''. Still later, he was seen in a mental hospital picking fights with Deadpool.
* HarsherInHindsight: The 1990-91 Foolkiller limited series was wrapping up around the same time that Jeffrey Dahmer and his crimes were revealed. Comics have to be written and illustrated months ahead of their publishing date so this had to be just coincidental. However, the ninth issue was released in July, the same month that Dahmer was apprehended. Although readers knew all along, it was in this issue that police discovered the identity of the Foolkiller.

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