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*** ... Dammit, fine. ''Yes''. Although I'm not too sure about Charmer - It's to the point and matches Dominater, but seems a little plain for a supername. Also, rather than vaguely psychic mind-control, I think pheremone-type powers would work better. Like a non-Evil [[MarvelUniverse Purple Man]]. I kind of love the idea of Haley as a {{Distaff Counterpart}}y Hawkeye-meets-Catwoman, though.

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*** ... Dammit, fine. ''Yes''. Although I'm not too sure about Charmer - It's to the point and matches Dominater, but seems a little plain for a supername. Also, rather than vaguely psychic mind-control, I think pheremone-type powers would work better. Like a non-Evil [[MarvelUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelUniverse Purple Man]]. I kind of love the idea of Haley as a {{Distaff Counterpart}}y Hawkeye-meets-Catwoman, though.
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She and the Bugbears have been going in and out of "Monster Hollow" for years; either she or Greyview, possibly both, have all the necessary tattoos, she's just never had any reason to actually complete the trip before and doesn't realize that's what Redcloak really wanted from this.

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She and the Bugbears have been going in and out of "Monster Hollow" for years; either she or Greyview, possibly both, have all the necessary tattoos, she's just never had any reason to actually complete the trip before and doesn't realize that's what Redcloak really wanted from this.this.
* Unlikely. She's been walking through the dungeons together with Redcloak and Xykon for days; she's bound to have been in the final room with them at some point, and then a portal would've opened. Until Team Evil arrived, Oona was only interested in the caves as a source of food and materials. She didn't have to go through all of the dungeons to do that, she could pick just a few to do again and again since the monsters replenish fast enough.
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After all, [[Series/{{MASH}} she named the Piercer "Franklin".]]

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After all, [[Series/{{MASH}} she named the Piercer "Franklin".]]]]

[[WMG: Oona could have cracked Serini's dungeon at any time.]]

She and the Bugbears have been going in and out of "Monster Hollow" for years; either she or Greyview, possibly both, have all the necessary tattoos, she's just never had any reason to actually complete the trip before and doesn't realize that's what Redcloak really wanted from this.
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*** No, Soon says she won't be a ''paladin'' again, not that she won't go to the LG afterlife. In fact, he says that he personally will escort her to her afterlife, and that her celestial mount will be able to visit her. Both of those things imply pretty strongly that she's still going to a LG afterlife. If it's a standard DnD cosmology, she may be going to Arcadia (between LN and LG) instead of Celestia (pure LG). Arcadia would fit thematically, as it's populated by good and lawful warriors.

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*** No, Soon says she won't be a ''paladin'' again, not that she won't go to the LG afterlife. In fact, he says that he personally will escort her to her afterlife, and that her celestial mount will be able to visit her. Both of those things imply pretty strongly that she's still going to a LG afterlife. If it's a standard DnD [=DnD=] cosmology, she may be going to Arcadia (between LN and LG) instead of Celestia (pure LG). Arcadia would fit thematically, as it's populated by good and lawful warriors.
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*** No, Soon says she won't be a ''paladin'' again, not that she won't go to the LG afterlife. In fact, he says that he personally will escort her to her afterlife, and that her celestial mount will be able to visit her. Both of those things imply pretty strongly that she's still going to a LG afterlife. If it's a standard DnD cosmology, she may be going to Arcadia (between LN and LG) instead of Celestia (pure LG). Arcadia would fit thematically, as it's populated by good and lawful warriors.
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Kill Em All was renamed Everybody Dies Ending due to misuse. Dewicking


[[WMG: [[KillEmAll Everyone dies]].]]

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[[WMG: [[KillEmAll Everyone dies]].[[WMG:Everyone dies.]]
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Roy would be a police officer, and his father a scientist, Durkon would be a priest, Haley would be a spy or a cat burglar, Elan would be a musician, his mother would still be a barmaid, but Tarquin and Malack would be ruthless businessman, and Nale would be criminal. Vaarsuvius would be a scientist, Belkar would be a serial killer on death row,and Xykon would be the leader of a terrorist group trying to, you guessed it, [[TakeOverTheWorld take over the worrld]], [[StreetFighter M. Bison]] : [[MemeticMutation Of course!]].

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Roy would be a police officer, and his father a scientist, Durkon would be a priest, Haley would be a spy or a cat burglar, Elan would be a musician, his mother would still be a barmaid, but Tarquin and Malack would be ruthless businessman, and Nale would be criminal. Vaarsuvius would be a scientist, Belkar would be a serial killer on death row,and Xykon would be the leader of a terrorist group trying to, you guessed it, [[TakeOverTheWorld take over the worrld]], [[StreetFighter [[Franchise/StreetFighter M. Bison]] : [[MemeticMutation Of course!]].
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** Ben Belkar, AKA War-God. Bestial NinetiesAntihero, whom Star-Fist keeps on the team because it's better to have him pointed at the bad guys than at the civillian population. In addition to animalistic powers, such as SuperStrength and SuperSenses, is certifiable KnifeNut.

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** Ben Belkar, AKA War-God. Bestial NinetiesAntihero, whom Star-Fist keeps on the team because it's better to have him pointed at the bad guys than at the civillian population. In addition to animalistic powers, such as SuperStrength and SuperSenses, is certifiable KnifeNut.Knife Nut.
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* It seems very odd that Girard would set a trap in the desert for Soon, literally ''betting'' on Soon breaking his oath of non-interference. Anyone who knows Paladins knows that they adhere to their promises very strictly, and Girard knew Soon personally so one would think he'd know better. However, there ''is'' one known Paladin who, in that situation, would have done ''exactly'' what Girard accused Soon of doing. Miko Miyazaki frequently reinterpreted events to suit her worldview and justify just about any action she took (up to and including killing her liege lord). In Soon's place, she would have found some way to justify breaking the oath and done precisely what Girard thought Soon would. In that context, it might just be that, during their time in the Order of the Scribble, Soon behaved [[LawfulStupid much like Miko]], which meant Girard probably felt justified in setting the trap he did. This also turns Soon's speech to Miko at her death into a FunnyAneurysmMoment since it means that Soon, when telling Miko about redemption and needing to admit you were wrong, was speaking from personal experience.

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* It seems very odd that Girard would set a trap in the desert for Soon, literally ''betting'' on Soon breaking his oath of non-interference. Anyone who knows Paladins knows that they adhere to their promises very strictly, and Girard knew Soon personally so one would think he'd know better. However, there ''is'' one known Paladin who, in that situation, would have done ''exactly'' what Girard accused Soon of doing. Miko Miyazaki frequently reinterpreted events to suit her worldview and justify just about any action she took (up to and including killing her liege lord). In Soon's place, she would have found some way to justify breaking the oath and done precisely what Girard thought Soon would. In that context, it might just be that, during their time in the Order of the Scribble, Soon behaved [[LawfulStupid much like Miko]], which meant Girard probably felt justified in setting the trap he did. This also turns Soon's speech to Miko at her death into a FunnyAneurysmMoment HarsherInHindsight since it means that Soon, when telling Miko about redemption and needing to admit you were wrong, was speaking from personal experience.
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* '''Confirmed''' [[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1252.html in #1252]].
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** My interpretation was that [=PCs=] were individuals with killing skills far beyond normal people--in our terms, people capable of taking combat-oriented classes like "Fighter" or "Sorceror" rather than NPC ones like "Aristocrat." Basically, they're Literature/{{Graceling}}s. (Also of note is that whatever it is, it's apparently hereditary.)

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** My interpretation was that [=PCs=] were individuals with killing skills far beyond normal people--in our terms, people capable of taking combat-oriented classes like "Fighter" or "Sorceror" rather than NPC ones like "Aristocrat." Basically, they're Literature/{{Graceling}}s.[[Literature/GracelingRealm Gracelings]]. (Also of note is that whatever it is, it's apparently hereditary.)
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After all, Elan has an 18 Charisma and has already shown he has an effect on Sunny, who gets pissed when Elan uses the magic word ("Please"). Also, Sunny probably doesn't get to chat with people much, and probably is eager to have a conversation with someone who isn't Serini.

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After all, Elan has an 18 Charisma and has already shown he has an effect on Sunny, who gets pissed when Elan uses the magic word ("Please"). Also, Sunny probably doesn't get to chat with people much, and probably is eager to have a conversation with someone who isn't Serini.Serini.

[[WMG: Serini named the Trapper "John"]]
After all, [[Series/{{MASH}} she named the Piercer "Franklin".]]
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He's not trying to get into Celestia, because the only family member he's on speaking terms with is True Neutral and he wants to be where Julia will end up.

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He's not trying to get into Celestia, because the only family member he's on speaking terms with is True Neutral and he wants to be where Julia will end up.up.

[[WMG:Elan will have befriended Sunny by the time either are revisited.]]
After all, Elan has an 18 Charisma and has already shown he has an effect on Sunny, who gets pissed when Elan uses the magic word ("Please"). Also, Sunny probably doesn't get to chat with people much, and probably is eager to have a conversation with someone who isn't Serini.
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[[WMG: The upcoming arc will be a StarWars parody.]]

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[[WMG: The upcoming arc will be a StarWars Franchise/StarWars parody.]]



I'm going to say older sister, older half-sister, or younger half-sister and/or multiple young half-siblings of varying sex. (Additionally, with the guess that this sequence is going to be at least partly StarWars homage/pastiche, it leaves room for ThereIsAnother, though I ''[[FanPreferredPairing really]]'' hope they don't pull off a [[BrotherSisterIncest Luke And Leia bit]], regardless of whether Vaarsuvius is Han or Luke. Unless s/he leans against the fourth wall long enough to express relief that that sort of thing wasn't going to happen).

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I'm going to say older sister, older half-sister, or younger half-sister and/or multiple young half-siblings of varying sex. (Additionally, with the guess that this sequence is going to be at least partly StarWars Franchise/StarWars homage/pastiche, it leaves room for ThereIsAnother, though I ''[[FanPreferredPairing really]]'' hope they don't pull off a [[BrotherSisterIncest Luke And Leia bit]], regardless of whether Vaarsuvius is Han or Luke. Unless s/he leans against the fourth wall long enough to express relief that that sort of thing wasn't going to happen).



The ''StarWars'' references in this arc kind of make one or both a necessity. With the former, I can imagine Tarquin killing Julio (perhaps for sleeping with one of his ladyfriends) and then as he dies, Julio would see Elan and tell him "I told you so". The maiming would make a lot of sense too (especially because it would work for both drama- besides the cruelty, it would temporarily impair Elan's bard abilities; as well as comedy- see ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' for how a HookHand can be used for comedy gold). I picture Tarquin discovering how Haley freed all those slaves and thinking that Elan was in cahoots with her. Or in any case, soon enough, the two of them will have to come to blows. Tarquin will defeat Elan in combat and after declaring that he would [[ExactWords never kill one of his children]], chop.

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The ''StarWars'' ''Franchise/StarWars'' references in this arc kind of make one or both a necessity. With the former, I can imagine Tarquin killing Julio (perhaps for sleeping with one of his ladyfriends) and then as he dies, Julio would see Elan and tell him "I told you so". The maiming would make a lot of sense too (especially because it would work for both drama- besides the cruelty, it would temporarily impair Elan's bard abilities; as well as comedy- see ''Series/ArrestedDevelopment'' for how a HookHand can be used for comedy gold). I picture Tarquin discovering how Haley freed all those slaves and thinking that Elan was in cahoots with her. Or in any case, soon enough, the two of them will have to come to blows. Tarquin will defeat Elan in combat and after declaring that he would [[ExactWords never kill one of his children]], chop.



There's nothing to contradict it: All we know is that they're both past adventurers of at least moderate success who appear to be roughly the same age and - one could assume - character level. It's entirely possible that, before Tarquin's empire-building and around the time of Julio's first Sexiest Man Alive award, the two roamed the world in adventurer style, slaying monsters and gaining EXP in manners appropriate to their alignments. Which, yes, are diametrically opposed, but there have been cross-alignment parties before; or maybe the years had one or both undergo an alignment shift? As to what broke up the group, and who the other members were/are... But hey, [[StarWars Anakin and Obi Wan]] were comrades before that whole 'Sith' thing. It would also explain Tarquin's experience with Pun-Duels, a feature of an apparently-rare character class; either he fought Julio (friendly sparring or otherwise) or was there when Julio wrested the secrets of the Dashing Swordsman from its previous holder.

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There's nothing to contradict it: All we know is that they're both past adventurers of at least moderate success who appear to be roughly the same age and - one could assume - character level. It's entirely possible that, before Tarquin's empire-building and around the time of Julio's first Sexiest Man Alive award, the two roamed the world in adventurer style, slaying monsters and gaining EXP in manners appropriate to their alignments. Which, yes, are diametrically opposed, but there have been cross-alignment parties before; or maybe the years had one or both undergo an alignment shift? As to what broke up the group, and who the other members were/are... But hey, [[StarWars [[Franchise/StarWars Anakin and Obi Wan]] were comrades before that whole 'Sith' thing. It would also explain Tarquin's experience with Pun-Duels, a feature of an apparently-rare character class; either he fought Julio (friendly sparring or otherwise) or was there when Julio wrested the secrets of the Dashing Swordsman from its previous holder.
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When Mike R had a legal issue with a certain Wizard from a Coastal area, Rich Burlew helped him out. One of the characters that Mike had was a friendly orange beholder with a green eye, and a friendly beholder with a green eye appears in comic 32 of [=OOtS=]. They are the same beholder.

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When Mike R had a legal issue with a certain Wizard from a Coastal area, Rich Burlew helped him out. One of the characters that Mike had was a friendly orange beholder with a green eye, and a friendly beholder with a green eye appears in comic 32 of [=OOtS=]. They are the same beholder.beholder.

[[WMG:There is a method to Eugene's un-Lawful un-Good behaviour.]]
He's not trying to get into Celestia, because the only family member he's on speaking terms with is True Neutral and he wants to be where Julia will end up.
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[[WMG: Tarquin and Redcloak will share NotSoDifferent moment]]

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[[WMG: Tarquin and Redcloak will share NotSoDifferent moment]]a moment of being not so different.]]
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Is that she's a lesbian. The comic hasn't really touched on this subject, so we don't know how sexuality is viewed in the OOTS world, but Thor's reaction was "you do you", which implies something like this.

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Is that she's a lesbian. The comic hasn't really touched on this subject, so we don't know how sexuality is viewed in the OOTS [=OOTS=] world, but Thor's reaction was "you do you", which implies something like this.



When Mike R had a legal issue with a certain Wizard from a Coastal area, Rich Burlew helped him out. One of the characters that Mike had was a friendly orange beholder with a green eye, and a friendly beholder with a green eye appears in comic 32 of OOtS. They are the same beholder.

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When Mike R had a legal issue with a certain Wizard from a Coastal area, Rich Burlew helped him out. One of the characters that Mike had was a friendly orange beholder with a green eye, and a friendly beholder with a green eye appears in comic 32 of OOtS.[=OOtS=]. They are the same beholder.
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* He has been described as "he", but that doesn't preclude him being {{Transgender}}. Which would kind of be awesome, actually. IMO there are both too few transmasculine characters in popular fiction, and not enough trans characters for whom their gender identity isn't the main focus of their characterisation.

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* He has been described as "he", but that doesn't preclude him being {{Transgender}}.Transgender. Which would kind of be awesome, actually. IMO there are both too few transmasculine characters in popular fiction, and not enough trans characters for whom their gender identity isn't the main focus of their characterisation.
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The IFCC talked about having a proper "vessel" for Sabine. It could be an example of KillAndReplace.

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The IFCC talked about having a proper "vessel" for Sabine. It could be an example of KillAndReplace.KillAndReplace.

[[WMG:The Beholder from page 32 is the same as the one in Rusty and Co]]
When Mike R had a legal issue with a certain Wizard from a Coastal area, Rich Burlew helped him out. One of the characters that Mike had was a friendly orange beholder with a green eye, and a friendly beholder with a green eye appears in comic 32 of OOtS. They are the same beholder.
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At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of my people's future. If I die in this Tomb there won't be anymore High Priests of the Dark One as the Crimson Mantle will be stuck in this tomb and without the High Priest armies of adventurers and Azurites will attack and slaughter my people just like many years ago. If you turn around and inform your friends about what I just said and tell them to leave I will allow you to leave with your life" Sometime later the Order teleports to the Azurite's new home and confront Hinjo. Roy will ask if the Sapphire Guard did inscrimately slaughter Goblin villages. Hinjo will say yes and Roy gets mad and tells Hinjo that the Sapphire Guard was responsible for the rise of Redcloak and the fall of Azure City. Roy gets into a Reason You Suck speech and tells Hinjo that if it weren't for the Sapphire Guard wasn't wiping out the Goblin villages both in and out of their Pantheon's lands Redcloak would've never risen to become the High Priest and Azure City would've never fallen. Hinjo gets angry and says he wasn't the leader of the Sapphire Guard back then. Roy says that Hinjo as the nephew of Lord Shojo could've easily stop the violence by pleading with his uncle to stop attacking innocent Goblin villages. O-Chul then agrees with Roy and says that when he first met the Sapphire Guard they were cruel and arrogant seeking to purge the knowledge of the Snarl which led to Azure City falling and the death of many humans who was killed by the Goblins now occupying all of the land that Azure City had control over so it's on the hands of Soon Kim and his Paladins. Roy then says" Only the honour of a Paladin is unbreakable? More like the arrogance of a Paladin is unbreakable? I thought you were serving the forces of good. You could've just killed the High Priest instead of wiping out entire Goblin villages" Hinjo says" You guys killed Goblins too" Roy then replies" We did in self defence at the time because we didn't even know about the Snarl or the Dark One. Listen the actions of the Sapphire Guard's actions have claimed many lives in the North and the South the former of which was out of bounds for your people. I am taking my people to try and defeat Xykon but after that we are going to help Redcloak with his Plan because let's face it the gods don't have our best interests at our heart. When I went to the Godsmoot I saw that many gods were willing to throw all of us under the cosmic bus. When we defeat Xykon I will take Redcloak to the Godsmoot where the Dark One will cast the deciding vote and when he does Durkon will inform Thor that the Goblins just wants equal rights and when this is all over and done with you are going to disband the Sapphire Guard and stay on the islands" Hinjo says But what about the slaves in Gobbotopia? Roy says" I will make sure that Redcloak lets them go" Then the Order departs on the Mechane.

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At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of my people's future. If I die in this Tomb there won't be anymore High Priests of the Dark One as the Crimson Mantle will be stuck in this tomb and without the High Priest armies of adventurers and Azurites will attack and slaughter my people just like many years ago. If you turn around and inform your friends about what I just said and tell them to leave I will allow you to leave with your life" Sometime later the Order teleports to the Azurite's new home and confront Hinjo. Roy will ask if the Sapphire Guard did inscrimately slaughter Goblin villages. Hinjo will say yes and Roy gets mad and tells Hinjo that the Sapphire Guard was responsible for the rise of Redcloak and the fall of Azure City. Roy gets into a Reason You Suck speech and tells Hinjo that if it weren't for the Sapphire Guard wasn't wiping out the Goblin villages both in and out of their Pantheon's lands Redcloak would've never risen to become the High Priest and Azure City would've never fallen. Hinjo gets angry and says he wasn't the leader of the Sapphire Guard back then. Roy says that Hinjo as the nephew of Lord Shojo could've easily stop the violence by pleading with his uncle to stop attacking innocent Goblin villages. O-Chul then agrees with Roy and says that when he first met the Sapphire Guard they were cruel and arrogant seeking to purge the knowledge of the Snarl which led to Azure City falling and the death of many humans who was killed by the Goblins now occupying all of the land that Azure City had control over so it's on the hands of Soon Kim and his Paladins. Roy then says" Only the honour of a Paladin is unbreakable? More like the arrogance of a Paladin is unbreakable? I thought you were serving the forces of good. You could've just killed the High Priest instead of wiping out entire Goblin villages" Hinjo says" You guys killed Goblins too" Roy then replies" We did in self defence at the time because we didn't even know about the Snarl or the Dark One. Listen the actions of the Sapphire Guard's actions have claimed many lives in the North and the South the former of which was out of bounds for your people. I am taking my people to try and defeat Xykon but after that we are going to help Redcloak with his Plan because let's face it the gods don't have our best interests at our heart. When I went to the Godsmoot I saw that many gods were willing to throw all of us under the cosmic bus. When we defeat Xykon I will take Redcloak to the Godsmoot where the Dark One will cast the deciding vote and when he does Durkon will inform Thor that the Goblins just wants equal rights and when this is all over and done with you are going to disband the Sapphire Guard and stay on the islands" Hinjo says But what about the slaves in Gobbotopia? Roy says" I will make sure that Redcloak lets them go" Then the Order departs on the Mechane.Mechane.

[[WMG:Serini is a shapeshifted Sabine]]
The IFCC talked about having a proper "vessel" for Sabine. It could be an example of KillAndReplace.
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At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of my people's future. If I die in this Tomb there won't be anymore High Priests of the Dark One as the Crimson Mantle will be stuck in this tomb and without the High Priest armies of adventurers and Azurites will attack and slaughter my people just like many years ago. If you turn around and inform your friends about what I just said and tell them to leave I will allow you to leave with your life" Sometime later the Order teleports to the Azurite's new home and confront Hinjo. Roy will ask if the Sapphire Guard did inscrimately slaughter Goblin villages. Hinjo will say yes and Roy gets mad and tells Hinjo that the Sapphire Guard was responsible for the rise of Redcloak and the fall of Azure City. Roy gets into a Reason You Suck speech and tells Hinjo that if it weren't for the Sapphire Guard wasn't wiping out the Goblin villages both in and out of their Pantheon's lands Redcloak would've never risen to become the High Priest and Azure City would've never fallen. Hinjo gets angry and says he wasn't the leader of the Sapphire Guard back then. Roy says that Hinjo as the nephew of Lord Shojo could've easily stop the violence by pleading with his uncle to stop attacking innocent Goblin villages. O-Chul then agrees with Roy and says that when he first met the Sapphire Guard they were cruel and arrogant seeking to purge the knowledge of the Snarl which led to Azure City falling and the death of many humans who was killed by the Goblins now occupying all of the land that Azure City had control over so it's on the hands of Soon Kim and his Paladins. Roy then says" Only the honour of a Paladin is unbreakable? More like the arrogance of a Paladin is unbreakable? I thought you were serving the forces of good. You could've just killed the High Priest instead of wiping out entire Goblin villages" Hinjo says" You guys killed Goblins too"

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At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of my people's future. If I die in this Tomb there won't be anymore High Priests of the Dark One as the Crimson Mantle will be stuck in this tomb and without the High Priest armies of adventurers and Azurites will attack and slaughter my people just like many years ago. If you turn around and inform your friends about what I just said and tell them to leave I will allow you to leave with your life" Sometime later the Order teleports to the Azurite's new home and confront Hinjo. Roy will ask if the Sapphire Guard did inscrimately slaughter Goblin villages. Hinjo will say yes and Roy gets mad and tells Hinjo that the Sapphire Guard was responsible for the rise of Redcloak and the fall of Azure City. Roy gets into a Reason You Suck speech and tells Hinjo that if it weren't for the Sapphire Guard wasn't wiping out the Goblin villages both in and out of their Pantheon's lands Redcloak would've never risen to become the High Priest and Azure City would've never fallen. Hinjo gets angry and says he wasn't the leader of the Sapphire Guard back then. Roy says that Hinjo as the nephew of Lord Shojo could've easily stop the violence by pleading with his uncle to stop attacking innocent Goblin villages. O-Chul then agrees with Roy and says that when he first met the Sapphire Guard they were cruel and arrogant seeking to purge the knowledge of the Snarl which led to Azure City falling and the death of many humans who was killed by the Goblins now occupying all of the land that Azure City had control over so it's on the hands of Soon Kim and his Paladins. Roy then says" Only the honour of a Paladin is unbreakable? More like the arrogance of a Paladin is unbreakable? I thought you were serving the forces of good. You could've just killed the High Priest instead of wiping out entire Goblin villages" Hinjo says" You guys killed Goblins too"too" Roy then replies" We did in self defence at the time because we didn't even know about the Snarl or the Dark One. Listen the actions of the Sapphire Guard's actions have claimed many lives in the North and the South the former of which was out of bounds for your people. I am taking my people to try and defeat Xykon but after that we are going to help Redcloak with his Plan because let's face it the gods don't have our best interests at our heart. When I went to the Godsmoot I saw that many gods were willing to throw all of us under the cosmic bus. When we defeat Xykon I will take Redcloak to the Godsmoot where the Dark One will cast the deciding vote and when he does Durkon will inform Thor that the Goblins just wants equal rights and when this is all over and done with you are going to disband the Sapphire Guard and stay on the islands" Hinjo says But what about the slaves in Gobbotopia? Roy says" I will make sure that Redcloak lets them go" Then the Order departs on the Mechane.
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At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of our future.

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At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of our future.my people's future. If I die in this Tomb there won't be anymore High Priests of the Dark One as the Crimson Mantle will be stuck in this tomb and without the High Priest armies of adventurers and Azurites will attack and slaughter my people just like many years ago. If you turn around and inform your friends about what I just said and tell them to leave I will allow you to leave with your life" Sometime later the Order teleports to the Azurite's new home and confront Hinjo. Roy will ask if the Sapphire Guard did inscrimately slaughter Goblin villages. Hinjo will say yes and Roy gets mad and tells Hinjo that the Sapphire Guard was responsible for the rise of Redcloak and the fall of Azure City. Roy gets into a Reason You Suck speech and tells Hinjo that if it weren't for the Sapphire Guard wasn't wiping out the Goblin villages both in and out of their Pantheon's lands Redcloak would've never risen to become the High Priest and Azure City would've never fallen. Hinjo gets angry and says he wasn't the leader of the Sapphire Guard back then. Roy says that Hinjo as the nephew of Lord Shojo could've easily stop the violence by pleading with his uncle to stop attacking innocent Goblin villages. O-Chul then agrees with Roy and says that when he first met the Sapphire Guard they were cruel and arrogant seeking to purge the knowledge of the Snarl which led to Azure City falling and the death of many humans who was killed by the Goblins now occupying all of the land that Azure City had control over so it's on the hands of Soon Kim and his Paladins. Roy then says" Only the honour of a Paladin is unbreakable? More like the arrogance of a Paladin is unbreakable? I thought you were serving the forces of good. You could've just killed the High Priest instead of wiping out entire Goblin villages" Hinjo says" You guys killed Goblins too"
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* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.

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* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.either.
[[WMG: Redcloak will rant to Durkon about how his family was slaughtered along with his entire village and then watched as his brother's family died as well causing the Order of the Stick to break off the alliance with Azure City]]
At some point in the comics Redcloak will rant to Durkon that when on the day he received the Crimson Mantle it was after his village was slaughtered with every single one of his village except his brother slaughtered by the Sapphire Guard and years later he failed to defend his brother's family from adventurers and had to kill his own brother for the Plan. He asks Durkon a question. If Redcloak and Xykon are defeated what will happen to the Goblins of Gobbotopia? Durkon is shocked and stammers before Redcloak asks the question again. Durkon looks down knowing the answer and Redcloak says" Your gods portray themselves to be gods who love all of their creations not caring about the monsters who are stuck with the worst places in the world and if that wasn't enough the gods made them sources for XP. Your gods betrayed us the moment we sprung into existence and all we wanted was equal rights but your leaders killed our best chance at acquiring. I saw many Goblins die for the sake of our future.
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* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.

[[WMG: O'Chul and Lien's mystery captor (seen in 1225) is [[TotemPoleTrench two halflings in a trenchcloak.]]]]
And one of the halflings? Serini. (The reason I say this is because the mystery guy has short arms. You'd think somebody taller would have longer arms.)
* Half... confirmed? There weren't two halflings, but there was one halfling. I guess I was right, maybe.

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* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.

[[WMG: O'Chul and Lien's mystery captor (seen in 1225) is [[TotemPoleTrench two halflings in a trenchcloak.]]]]
And one of the halflings? Serini. (The reason I say this is because the mystery guy has short arms. You'd think somebody taller would have longer arms.)
* Half... confirmed? There weren't two halflings, but there was one halfling. I guess I was right, maybe.
either.
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And one of the halflings? Serini. (The reason I say this is because the mystery guy has short arms. You'd think somebody taller would have longer arms.)

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And one of the halflings? Serini. (The reason I say this is because the mystery guy has short arms. You'd think somebody taller would have longer arms.))
* Half... confirmed? There weren't two halflings, but there was one halfling. I guess I was right, maybe.
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* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.

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* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.either.

[[WMG: O'Chul and Lien's mystery captor (seen in 1225) is [[TotemPoleTrench two halflings in a trenchcloak.]]]]
And one of the halflings? Serini. (The reason I say this is because the mystery guy has short arms. You'd think somebody taller would have longer arms.)
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There is a RunningGag where Xykon can supposedly hear the wrong spelling of his name. It could be an example of absurd humor... or it could actually make sense. What if the characters that make up the name "XYKON" are actually Greek letters? Chi, upsilon, kappa, omicron, nu. "X" would be pronounced like the "ch" in "loch"; "Y" would be pronounced like the French "u". The joke, then, would be on the '''readers''' who pronounce his name as "Zykon", who would rightfully deserve Xykon's wrath.

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There is a RunningGag where Xykon can supposedly hear the wrong spelling of his name. It could be an example of absurd humor... or it could actually make sense. What if the characters that make up the name "XYKON" are actually Greek letters? Chi, upsilon, kappa, omicron, nu. "X" would be pronounced like the "ch" in "loch"; "Y" would be pronounced like the French "u". The joke, then, would be on the '''readers''' who pronounce his name as "Zykon", who would rightfully deserve Xykon's wrath.wrath.

[[WMG: Durkon's Cousin's Brother-in-law's Niece's Fiancé IS Thad]]
* Durkon and Thad never met, and Durkon never saw him dressed for work either.

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