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[[WMG: The book is an enchanted copy of Herringway's original novel that took on a life of its own.]]
A variant of the above theories of the first few games still being canon within the Mario & Luigi titles. Herringway's accounts of the events of the first ''Paper Mario'' took liberties here and there but were, by and large, faithful to the events that really happened. This particular copy of the book was enchanted to continue recording similar adventures Mario partakes in, and recorded the events of ''The Thousand-Year Door'' next, taking further creative liberties by simplifying the nature of the Black Chests' "[[CursedWithAwesome curses]]" into a paper origami nature. By the time the book got to recording the events of ''Super Paper Mario'', the enchantment on the book was starting to become more overt with its creative liberties, as the complex multidimensional "Flip" ability seen throughout was expressed in-story as a two-dimensional being or object flipping into a three-dimensional environment. By that point, the "universe" within the book had gotten so complex that it had taken on a life of its own, and the adventures expressed from then on were purely them rather than a reflection of the "real world". This is why ''Sticker Star'' and onward began a greater emphasis on the world and its inhabitants being literally papercraft creations in-universe.
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Either as cameos, more special attacks for Paper Mario to use, side-quest givers, or friendly {{Bonus Boss}}es.
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Either as cameos, more special attacks for Paper Mario to use, side-quest givers, or friendly {{Bonus {{Optional Boss}}es.
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* Jossed. Bonechill isn't here. [[spoiler:The BonusBoss is, however, rather skeletal in nature.]]
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* Jossed. Bonechill isn't here. [[spoiler:The BonusBoss {{Superboss}} is, however, rather skeletal in nature.]]
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[[WMG: Only Videogame/PaperMarioStickerStar and Videogame/PaperMarioColorSplash [[Main/FanonDiscontinuity take place in the book]].]]
Because dang it if I'm going to let the real [[Videogame/PaperMario64 Paper]] [[Videogame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor Mario]] [[Videogame/SuperPaperMario games]] be non-canon! You may be asking what kind of book? A combination sticker/coloring book, [[Main/FridgeBrilliance of course]]!
** They never said the events of the ''Paper Mario'' games were non-canon, just like they never said the events of ''Super Mario 3'' were non-canon. There was probably a "Not-Paper" version of the story, just like the GBA version of SMB3 wasn't a stage play.
Because dang it if I'm going to let the real [[Videogame/PaperMario64 Paper]] [[Videogame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor Mario]] [[Videogame/SuperPaperMario games]] be non-canon! You may be asking what kind of book? A combination sticker/coloring book, [[Main/FridgeBrilliance of course]]!
** They never said the events of the ''Paper Mario'' games were non-canon, just like they never said the events of ''Super Mario 3'' were non-canon. There was probably a "Not-Paper" version of the story, just like the GBA version of SMB3 wasn't a stage play.
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[[WMG: Only Videogame/PaperMarioStickerStar ''Videogame/PaperMarioStickerStar'' and Videogame/PaperMarioColorSplash ''Videogame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' [[Main/FanonDiscontinuity take place in the book]].]]
Because dang it if I'm going to let the real [[Videogame/PaperMario64 Paper]] [[Videogame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor Mario]] [[Videogame/SuperPaperMario games]] be non-canon! You may be asking what kind of book? A combination sticker/coloring book,[[Main/FridgeBrilliance [[FridgeBrilliance of course]]!
** * They never said the events of the ''Paper Mario'' games were non-canon, just like they never said the events of ''Super Mario 3'' were non-canon. There was probably a "Not-Paper" version of the story, just like the GBA version of SMB3 ''[=SMB3=]'' wasn't a stage play.
Because dang it if I'm going to let the real [[Videogame/PaperMario64 Paper]] [[Videogame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor Mario]] [[Videogame/SuperPaperMario games]] be non-canon! You may be asking what kind of book? A combination sticker/coloring book,
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[[WMG: There will be a [[GreaterScopeVillain Greater Scope Villain]] who caused the worlds to merge.]]
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[[WMG: There will be a[[GreaterScopeVillain Greater Scope Villain]] GreaterScopeVillain who caused the worlds to merge.]]
[[WMG: There will be a
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* Somewhat confirmed - it's a Scaredy Rat, though it probably won't be playing a role in the game at all. And probably got stomped on off-screen, or something.
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* Somewhat confirmed - -- it's a Scaredy Rat, though it probably won't be playing a role in the game at all. And probably got stomped on off-screen, or something.something.
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[[WMG: Elements and characters from other Mario games will be included.]]
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[[WMG: Elements and characters from other Mario ''Mario'' games will be included.]]
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[[WMG: [[RecursiveReality The Mario and Luigi series is a book or series of books in the Paper Mario universe.]]]]
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[[WMG: [[RecursiveReality The Mario and Luigi ''Mario & Luigi'' series is a book or series of books in the Paper Mario ''Paper Mario'' universe.]]]]
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[[WMG: Paper Jam will begin with a StorybookOpening, a la the regular VideoGame/PaperMario games.]]
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[[WMG: Paper Jam ''Paper Jam'' will begin with a StorybookOpening, a la the regular VideoGame/PaperMario ''VideoGame/PaperMario'' games.]]
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[[WMG: The game will feature a cameo from a ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' character.]]
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[[WMG: The game will feature a cameo from a ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPG'' ''VideoGame/SuperMarioRPGLegendOfTheSevenStars'' character.]]
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It's literally just Bowser and Paper Bowser. Nobody else. Not even the Elite Trio, or Bowser Jr.. Besides ''maybe'' a new character as the GreaterScopeVillain.
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It's literally just Bowser and Paper Bowser. Nobody else. Not even the Elite Trio, or Bowser Jr.. Besides Jr., besides ''maybe'' a new character as the GreaterScopeVillain.
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Since Bowser can be used as a support card via {{Toys/Amiibo}}, they could actually side with the Bros. and Paper Mario...[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory wittingly.]]
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Since Bowser can be used as a support card via {{Toys/Amiibo}}, Toys/{{Amiibo}}, they could actually side with the Bros. and Paper Mario...[[VideoGame/MarioAndLuigiBowsersInsideStory wittingly.]]wittingly]].
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And they won't just die - both versions will be killed.
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And they won't just die - -- both versions will be killed.
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* Jossed - [[spoiler:The Bowser Jr.s are defeated before the finale.]]
[[WMG: By the time the next M&L or PM game comes out...]]
[[WMG: By the time the next M&L or PM game comes out...]]
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* Jossed - -- [[spoiler:The Bowser Jr.s are defeated before the finale.]]
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[[WMG: By the time the nextM&L ''M&L'' or PM ''PM'' game comes out...]]
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* This may be why Paper Bowser Jr. doesn't show up in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' despite the premise being something he loves to do--painting. He's too down about losing his friendship with his counterpart to take part in [[spoiler:Black Bowser's]] schemes.
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* This may be why Paper Bowser Jr. doesn't show up in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' despite the premise being something he loves to do--painting.do -- painting. He's too down about losing his friendship with his counterpart to take part in [[spoiler:Black Bowser's]] schemes.
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But we only see one version of each adventure. They end up as BroadStrokes versions of each other, due to the differing physics of the worlds, but the end result is mostly the same. This is supported by the Star Spirits and Goomba King from ''VideoGame/PaperMario64'' reappearing in 3D games - The latter in a [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 main series game]], even.
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But we only see one version of each adventure. They end up as BroadStrokes versions of each other, due to the differing physics of the worlds, but the end result is mostly the same. This is supported by the Star Spirits and Goomba King from ''VideoGame/PaperMario64'' reappearing in 3D games - The -- the latter in a [[VideoGame/SuperMario64 main series game]], even.
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[[WMG: Paper Mario isn't a story in the M&L universe]]
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[[WMG: Paper Mario isn't a story in the M&L universe]]universe.]]
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[[WMG: The Book is not the Paper World, it's simply the gateway to it]]
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[[WMG: The Book book is not the Paper World, it's simply the gateway to it]]it.]]
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[[WMG: The events of the first three Paper Mario games actually happened in the M&L universe]]
If you talk to the Toad writer in west-side Rogueport in ''The Thousand Year Door'' after beating the game, he talks about how he adapted Mario's adventures into a book called ''Paper Mario'' and how popular it became. The theory is that he went on to write about the events of ''Super Paper Mario'' due to how popular the first book was and then began writing original stories about Paper Mario (hence the more "paper-y" asthetic of the last two games), one of which ended up in Peach's library.
If you talk to the Toad writer in west-side Rogueport in ''The Thousand Year Door'' after beating the game, he talks about how he adapted Mario's adventures into a book called ''Paper Mario'' and how popular it became. The theory is that he went on to write about the events of ''Super Paper Mario'' due to how popular the first book was and then began writing original stories about Paper Mario (hence the more "paper-y" asthetic of the last two games), one of which ended up in Peach's library.
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[[WMG: The events of the first three Paper Mario ''Paper Mario'' games actually happened in the M&L universe]]
''M&L'' universe.]]
If you talk to the Toad writer in west-side Rogueport in ''The Thousand Year Door'' after beating the game, he talks about how he adapted Mario's adventures into a book called ''Paper Mario'' and how popular it became. The theory is that he went on to write about the events of ''Super Paper Mario'' due to how popular the first book was and then began writing original stories about Paper Mario (hence the more "paper-y" asthetic of the last two games), one of which ended up in Peach'slibrary.library.
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If you talk to the Toad writer in west-side Rogueport in ''The Thousand Year Door'' after beating the game, he talks about how he adapted Mario's adventures into a book called ''Paper Mario'' and how popular it became. The theory is that he went on to write about the events of ''Super Paper Mario'' due to how popular the first book was and then began writing original stories about Paper Mario (hence the more "paper-y" asthetic of the last two games), one of which ended up in Peach's
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So if something happened to the book, the worst that would happen is the Paper Characters would lose access to the their home. Which is still a major Tear Jerker, but not Nightmare Fuel that the book being the world as well would imply genocide if destroyed.
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So if something happened to the book, the worst that would happen is the Paper Characters would lose access to the their home. Which is still a major Tear Jerker, but not Nightmare Fuel that the book being the world as well would imply genocide if destroyed.destroyed.
[[WMG: The events of the first three Paper Mario games actually happened in the M&L universe]]
If you talk to the Toad writer in west-side Rogueport in ''The Thousand Year Door'' after beating the game, he talks about how he adapted Mario's adventures into a book called ''Paper Mario'' and how popular it became. The theory is that he went on to write about the events of ''Super Paper Mario'' due to how popular the first book was and then began writing original stories about Paper Mario (hence the more "paper-y" asthetic of the last two games), one of which ended up in Peach's library.
[[WMG: The events of the first three Paper Mario games actually happened in the M&L universe]]
If you talk to the Toad writer in west-side Rogueport in ''The Thousand Year Door'' after beating the game, he talks about how he adapted Mario's adventures into a book called ''Paper Mario'' and how popular it became. The theory is that he went on to write about the events of ''Super Paper Mario'' due to how popular the first book was and then began writing original stories about Paper Mario (hence the more "paper-y" asthetic of the last two games), one of which ended up in Peach's library.
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[[spoiler: Throughout the entire game, it'll be made clear that nobody has seen him in a while. And then, right before the final world, Mario, Luigi and Paper Mario get captured by either the Bowsers or some kind of BiggerBad. All hope seems lost... until Paper Luigi (possibly dressed as Mr. L) shows [[MusicVideo/TheUltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny up out of nowhere lightning fast]]. And then you'll be able to play as him for the remainder of the game.]]
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[[spoiler: Throughout the entire game, it'll be made clear that nobody has seen him in a while. And then, right before the final world, Mario, Luigi and Paper Mario get captured by either the Bowsers or some kind of BiggerBad.threat. All hope seems lost... until Paper Luigi (possibly dressed as Mr. L) shows [[MusicVideo/TheUltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny up out of nowhere lightning fast]]. And then you'll be able to play as him for the remainder of the game.]]
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It's literally just Bowser and Paper Bowser. Nobody else. Not even the Elite Trio, or Bowser Jr.. Besides ''maybe'' a new character as the [[GreaterScopeVillain Bigger Bad.]]
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It's literally just Bowser and Paper Bowser. Nobody else. Not even the Elite Trio, or Bowser Jr.. Besides ''maybe'' a new character as the [[GreaterScopeVillain Bigger Bad.]]GreaterScopeVillain.
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* Jossed. It's still Bowser.
* Jossed. It's still Bowser.
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Namespaced.
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He deliberately brought Paper Mario into the M&L dimension so that he could rewrite the book to chronicle [[MemeticMutation his legendary adventures in the Waffle Kingdom]]. And he also wants to destroy the M&L dimension in order to take revenge on Nintendo for the abysmal failure of [[TheYearOfLuigi the Year of Luigi]].
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He deliberately brought Paper Mario into the M&L dimension so that he could rewrite the book to chronicle [[MemeticMutation his legendary adventures in the Waffle Kingdom]]. And he also wants to destroy the M&L dimension in order to take revenge on Nintendo for the abysmal failure of [[TheYearOfLuigi [[Advertising/TheYearOfLuigi the Year of Luigi]].
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* This may be why Paper Bowser Jr. doesn't show up in ''VideoGame/PaperMarioColorSplash'' despite the premise being something he loves to do--painting. He's too down about losing his friendship with his counterpart to take part in [[spoiler:Black Bowser's]] schemes.
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*** Jossed. Although if there ever is a sequal, this would be interesting to see.
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*** Jossed. Although if there ever is a sequal, sequel, this would be interesting to see.
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[[WMG: The paper world is not actually part of the book]]
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[[WMG: The paper world Paper World is not actually part of the book]]
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It's an entirely different universe that is accessed by a book, normal stories don't have characters coming into reality after a book is knocked over, this also makes Super Paper Mario not irrelevant since Dimentios plan WAS a danger to the multiverse instead of just something from a story
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It's an entirely different universe that is accessed by a book, normal stories don't have characters coming into reality after a book is knocked over, this also makes Super Paper Mario not irrelevant since Dimentios Dimentio's plan WAS a danger to the multiverse instead of just something from a story
[[WMG: The Book is not the Paper World,its it's simply the gateway to it]]
[[WMG: The Book is not the Paper World,
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It's an entirely different universe that is accessed by a book, normal stories don't have characters coming into reality after a book is knocked over, this also makes Super Paper Mario not irrelevant since Dimentios plan WAS a danger to the multiverse instead of just something from a story
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It's an entirely different universe that is accessed by a book, normal stories don't have characters coming into reality after a book is knocked over, this also makes Super Paper Mario not irrelevant since Dimentios plan WAS a danger to the multiverse instead of just something from a storystory
[[WMG: The Book is not the Paper World, its simply the gateway to it]]
So if something happened to the book, the worst that would happen is the Paper Characters would lose access to the their home. Which is still a major Tear Jerker, but not Nightmare Fuel that the book being the world as well would imply genocide if destroyed.
[[WMG: The Book is not the Paper World, its simply the gateway to it]]
So if something happened to the book, the worst that would happen is the Paper Characters would lose access to the their home. Which is still a major Tear Jerker, but not Nightmare Fuel that the book being the world as well would imply genocide if destroyed.
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He still allies with [[spoiler: the bros for his own reasons]]. He greatly values the stronger player (Bleck in ''SPM'', his allies in ''Paper Jam''). He [[spoiler:betrays them when the chance arises]]. In fact, [[FridgeBrilliance it's possible]] Paper Luigi never told his brother about that incident, due to what [[spoiler:the betrayal]] [[Main/BrainwashedAndCrazy lead to]].
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He still allies with [[spoiler: the bros for his own reasons]]. He greatly values the stronger player (Bleck in ''SPM'', his allies in ''Paper Jam''). He [[spoiler:betrays them when the chance arises]]. In fact, [[FridgeBrilliance it's possible]] Paper Luigi never told his brother about that incident, due to what [[spoiler:the betrayal]] [[Main/BrainwashedAndCrazy lead to]].to]].
[[WMG: Paper Mario isn't a story in the M&L universe]]
It's an entirely different universe that is accessed by a book, normal stories don't have characters coming into reality after a book is knocked over, this also makes Super Paper Mario not irrelevant since Dimentios plan WAS a danger to the multiverse instead of just something from a story
[[WMG: Paper Mario isn't a story in the M&L universe]]
It's an entirely different universe that is accessed by a book, normal stories don't have characters coming into reality after a book is knocked over, this also makes Super Paper Mario not irrelevant since Dimentios plan WAS a danger to the multiverse instead of just something from a story
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Yeah, right.
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* Jossed - [[spoiler:The Bowser Jr.s are defeated]] [[note]] [[spoiler:or maybe even '''''killed''''']] [[/note]] [[spoiler:before the finale.]]
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* Jossed - [[spoiler:The Bowser Jr.s are defeated]] [[note]] [[spoiler:or maybe even '''''killed''''']] [[/note]] [[spoiler:before defeated before the finale.]]
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** They never said the events of the ''Paper Mario'' games were non-canon, just like they never said the events of ''Super Mario 3'' were non-canon. There was probably a "Not-Paper" version of the story, just like the GBA version of SMB3 wasn't a stage play.
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** They never said the events of the ''Paper Mario'' games were non-canon, just like they never said the events of ''Super Mario 3'' were non-canon. There was probably a "Not-Paper" version of the story, just like the GBA version of SMB3 wasn't a stage play.play.
[[WMG: The Paper Goomba of great importance is the one from the Luigi intermission of ''Super Paper Mario''.]]
He still allies with [[spoiler: the bros for his own reasons]]. He greatly values the stronger player (Bleck in ''SPM'', his allies in ''Paper Jam''). He [[spoiler:betrays them when the chance arises]]. In fact, [[FridgeBrilliance it's possible]] Paper Luigi never told his brother about that incident, due to what [[spoiler:the betrayal]] [[Main/BrainwashedAndCrazy lead to]].
[[WMG: The Paper Goomba of great importance is the one from the Luigi intermission of ''Super Paper Mario''.]]
He still allies with [[spoiler: the bros for his own reasons]]. He greatly values the stronger player (Bleck in ''SPM'', his allies in ''Paper Jam''). He [[spoiler:betrays them when the chance arises]]. In fact, [[FridgeBrilliance it's possible]] Paper Luigi never told his brother about that incident, due to what [[spoiler:the betrayal]] [[Main/BrainwashedAndCrazy lead to]].
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Not true
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* Jossed. Mr. Miyamoto hates the ''Paper Mario'' series
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* Jossed. Mr. Miyamoto hates the ''Paper Mario'' series
Jossed.