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* Alternatively (and honestly more likely), King Cold will return in the form of an alternate version from Universe 6. The [[ForWantOfANail nail]] in that universe is that King Cold did the same intense training as Frieza, and is a more active bad guy there. The Frieza of that universe could be an IneffectualSympatheticVillain by comparison, or maybe even a good guy.

[[WMG: Frost is an alternate Freeza, and serves as [[ForWantOfANail the main difference between Universe 6 and 7.]] ]]

* Alternatively(and honestly more likely), King Cold will return in the form of an alternate version from Universe 6. The [[ForWantOfANail nail]] in that universe is that King Cold did the same intense training as Frieza, and is a more active bad guy there. The Frieza of that universe could be an IneffectualSympatheticVillain by comparison, or maybe even a good guy.

As a species they have lifespans comparable to those of Core People but Zeno granted immortality to the Grand Priest(King of the Angel Homeworld and all the planets colonised by angels in their own universe), and his family in exchange for their service and universe. Angels also happen to be the only sapient lifeform in that universe.

With the announcement of a story arc centered around Goten and Trunks, ''DBS'' blows the door wide open when it comes to where its story will be taken next. Now, the story doesn't have to be primarily focused on Goku and Vegeta anymore; other characters can gain equal prominence in the story. Perhaps we can see more Gohan-centric arcs that take place after ''Super Hero''. Maybe Caulifla, Cabba, and Kale could have their own adventures in Universe 6. Jiren could finally vanquish the monster the caused him sow much suffering in his life. And other multiversal characters like the Trio of Danger and Ribrianne could have their own adventures. Indeed, the possibilities of ''DBS'''s future are now endless.

Less so him being ''that'' evil-again, Vegeta's was almost if not just as bad as him. Rather it's because he's only villain besides Mercenary Tao ([[VillainDecay who was reduced to a joke as time passed]]) to be given mercy and spit in the face of it. Other villains either repay the mercy, get killed before he can give mercy (like Nappa and the Ginyu Force) or don't even bother with the offer (Cell) if it's even made. The fact that he's unique in that regard suggests he's supposed to be the one exception. While he has become a lot more FauxAffablyEvil and is starting to learn EvilVirtues, it would be almost stereotypical for that to lead to a HeelFaceTurn. Story-wise, it would be too much of a BrokenBase [[LoveToHate since the allure of Frieza is that he is irredeemable]] and it would undermine all the horrible things he did. Oh sure, Vegeta has done similar horrible things but a lot of said horrible things(like killing and enslaving species) are OffscreenVillainy or implied. His onscreen villainy when he wasn't a NominalHero is him killing the heroes with some occasional sadism(common villain trait) [[KickTheSonOfABitch or cruel actions towards other villains]], while Frieza's onscreen villain involves genocide-only Majin Buu has really done that onscreen, and it was one that was shown to be ObliviouslyEvil when Frieza's shown [[CardCarryingVillain to be aware of and embrace his cruelty]].

[[WMG: Future ''Super'' films will feature Cooler, Android 13, and Hirudegarn as the BigBads]]
Cooler was already teased in ''Broly'' when Frieza decides to find a partner for himself. If Cooler does indeed become the second movie's villain, DBS could follow the pattern DBZ had with its four main villains (Saiyan, Frieza Clan, Android, Demon) by bringing 13 and Hirudegarn (and to a lesser extent, the Kashers) to the main canon.

I get why this suggestion is a thing. Humans—hell, pretty much all non-Saiyans not named Beerus and Whis—'''are''' in sore need of a power boost. It's the entire reason I like the Super 17 concept from ''GT'' enough to want to see it revisited in canon since Android 17 is my favorite character, and the reason why I think Golden Freeza was an awesome idea for restoring the most iconic villain in the series to his evil glory complete with fridge horror. In fact I stated above that your idea to have humans be able to channel outside energy to grow their power is actually pretty awesome. I repeat, walking Spirit Bombs. Again, awesome. But the resulting change from that new power shouldn't be Super Saiyan. Give it a different identity than that. A different name, different appearance, different aura, hell, even different strengths and weaknesses. Represent the fact that it's the '''humans[='=]''' ability at work here.

...is to create magic spells. I personally think that Rota is Dragon Ball's equialent of Doctor Strange. He has the title "Doctor", just as Strange does, and Champa mentioned in the manga that he uses spells. Linking these two hints, I think that Dr. Rota is a magician, and a powerful one and that.

That explains why the Super Dragon Balls we see are seperated between Universes 6 and 7, and nowhere else. Each Super Dragon Ball set also has its own dragon, much like Super Shenron for the U6-7 set.

The only reason Bergamo held a grudge against Goku was due to his actions for a multiversal tournament risking his universe's erasure. Now that we know that his universe was supposed to be revived anyway--and the fact that it was Goku's infuence that made 17 bring it back--it's possible that Bergamo will be grateful to Goku because his influence caused his universe to be restored.

Up until now canonical Super Saiyans have been confined to Goku and Vegeta's bloodlines. However, while we haven't seen the initial transformation of all Super Saiyans, there seem to be two basic elements needed to become one in most cases: 1) a very powerful Saiyan, and 2) a HeroicBSOD moment. If we go with the above theory of the Saiyans returning, they'll almost certainly all undergo intensive training from Goku, both to strengthen them, and to teach them compassion. Then, these newly-compassionate Saiyans will be sent out to fight the greatest evils in the universe…what do you want to bet every last one of them witnesses SOMETHING (genocide, death camps, rape, forced starvation…) capable of making them go Super Saiyan.

Hence more easily explaining how Champa and Beerus could be twin brothers despite coming from separate universes. The reason why twin universes share the same species and are alike in the first place is that they used to be single universes, before dividing into two. This is also why the Super Dragonballs are shared across Universe 6 and 7 instead of only being in one, or spread out across to more than two universes. Being so similar in nature is also why most twin universes are next to each other in the mortal rank even if the gods in charge are wildly different. The reason why Beerus ahd Champa are the only related gods is because they're, as far as we know, the ''oldest'' destroyers: Beerus was a contemporary of Old Kai, and while his old age [[FusionDance is artifical]] he's considered ancient to an at least 5 million year old Shin. As such, they were the only ones old enough to live through their universe splitting into two and being separated so either the other one could be a Destroyer god, or they wouldn't need to fight each other to get it. Depending on when Universe 13-18 were erased, its possible these early universes split into ''triplets'' and Beerus and Champa were lucky not to be on the triplets who got erased.

With the details of what becomes Android 17, and his job as a park ranger, it seems that the deceased(?) Android 16 has influenced Android 17 in some ways, like the love of nature and wildlife. And working in a nature park as a ranger to protect wildlife seems to be honoring Android 16's dream. Also, if this is true, this shows that Android 17 has never forget his former comrade.

One's a glory hog FakeUltimateHero, the other's an AccidentalHero who'd rather just do his job. [[HilarityEnsues This is a joke that makes itself]]

That, or the destroyed universes 13-18 if the tournament causes them to come back. It's been given the most information(though admittedly very little) of the universes with a rank higher than 7; the manga has that universe, not Bulma, as the inventor of time travel which opened up to the idea of different timelines(which are effectively entirely new multiverses). Geene's character profile of cultivating the second most developed universe [[VictoryIsBoring yet left without a challenge]] makes it likely that if any of the higher ranked gods would be interested in the comings and going of Universe 7 and Goku, who's interaction with the gods is unique. The plot could be Geene wanting to challenge himself by testing Goku and Universe 7, want to see something so novel become more developed by showing them how its done with Universe 12, or maybe just show off. The villain, if there is one, is likely either a mortal in Universe 12 who's plans involve/get involved by other universes or someone outside Universe 12 doesn't like this interaction for whatever reason. Possibly Universe 1, the twin universe that's the most developed and well-run, or Universe 5/8 out of potential jealousy and/or curiosity.

Beerus was telling a half-truth; Monaka is a legitimately devastating opponent and hero to his people. It's been established with characters like the Galactic King that Frieza, even before training, is still considered the bar of strong opponents to this day. Even [[AuthorityEqualsAsskicking the Galactic King]] doesn't compare. Frieza mentioned to Piccolo on Namek that he's never had to use his third form(which has a power level in the millions, making it a fraction of his full strength); in other words, the strongest person(besides Frieza) in the entire Milky Way galaxy, prior to the Namek Saga, has a maximum power level of a million-practically nothing compared to even Fat Buu.

* TheChick: Magetta. I don't know about you, but I like the idea of this kick-ass giant robot [[GentleGiant keeping the peace among his team members.]]

It would be a good chance to canonize characters like Pikkon and the other universal tournament contenders. It would be nice to have Goku interact with his dead grandpa, and his dead parents, Bardock and Gine.

In this Arc, the Grand Supreme Kai is able to wake up and speak through Buu. It's not really explained why he could do this and why he didn't use it to kill Bibidi or Babadi. Given that Grand Supreme Kais are more knowledgeable than regular ones, he may be the only one to be able to pill this off. It's also revealed that he lost his divine power to Kid Buu in the past. It could be that he couldn't do it for whatever reason when he had divine power or he didn't do in front of Bibidi and Babadi because he was afraid they could seal him up permanently. He also affected Buu's personality and may have prevented him from killing East Supreme Kai. After losing his divine power and after Kid Buu was destroyed, he had no reason to reveal himself to everyone. If East Supreme Kai knew he was "alive" and that Kid Buu could be destroyed by Goku and Vegeta, his existence could tempt East Supreme Kai to try and "save him". He may just be such a nice guy that he didn't want to give Shin false hope. Moro however, is his personal GodzillaThreshold to force himself to awaken. If it isn't related to him losing his divine power, then it's much the same, but he just realized that Fat Buu was just naive and not evil and also knew everyone (Fat) Buu was eating could be revived by the Dragon Balls having sensed their power while being sealed away. As for Super Buu, he may have just been unable to awaken in a Buu form that wasn't innocent enough to allow it. It also could relate to his AlienNoninterferenceClause. While in the Fat Buu form, he didn't see any reason to not give the Z crew a chance to fix it themselves. After Fay Buu was absorbed, he was simply unable to manifest in Super Buu, again, related to Super Buu not being innocent anymore.

In this Arc, the Grand Supreme Kai is able to wake up and speak through Buu. It's not really explained why he could do this and why he didn't use it to kill Bibidi or Babadi. Given that Grand Supreme Kais are more knowledgeable than regular ones, he may be the only one to be able to pill this off. It's also revealed that he lost his divine power to Kid Buu in the past. It could be that he couldn't do it for whatever reason when he had divine power or he didn't do in front of Bibidi and Babadi because he was afraid they could seal him up permanently. He also affected Buu's personality and may have prevented him from killing East Supreme Kai. After losing his divine power and after Kid Buu was destroyed, he had no reason to reveal himself to everyone. If East Supreme Kai knew he was "alive" and that Kid Buu could be destroyed by Goku and Vegeta, his existence could tempt East Supreme Kai to try and "save him". He may just be such a nice guy that he didn't want to give Shin false hope. Moro however, is his personal GodzillaThreshold to force himself to awaken. If it isn't related to him losing his divine power, then it's much the same, but he just realized that Fat Buu was just naive and not evil and also knew everyone (Fat) Buu was eating could be revived by the Dragon Balls having sensed their power while being sealed away. As for Super Buu, he may have just been unable to awaken in a Buu form that wasn't innocent enough to allow it.

In this Arc, the Grand Supreme Kai is able to wake up and speak through Buu. It's not really explained why he could do this and why he didn't use it to kill Bibidi or Babadi. Given that Grand Supreme Kais are more knowledgeable than regular ones, he may be the only one to be able to pill this off. It's also revealed that he lost his divine power to Kid Buu in the past. It could be that he couldn't do it for whatever reason when he had divine power or he didn't do in front of Bibidi and Babadi because he was afraid they could seal him up permanently. He also affected Buu's personality and may have prevented him from killing East Supreme Kai. After losing his divine power and after Kid Buu was destroyed, he had no reason to reveal himself to everyone. If East Supreme Kai knew he was "alive" and that Kid Buu could be destroyed by Goku and Vegeta, his existence could tempt East Supreme Kai to try and "save him". He may just be such a nice guy that he didn't want to give Shin false hope. Moro however, is his personal GodzillaThreshold to force himself to awaken. If it isn't related to him losing his divine power, then it's much the same, but he just realized that the Buu was just naive and not evil and also knew everyone (Fat) Buu was eating could be revived by the Dragon Balls having sensed their power while being sealed away. As for Super Buu, he may have just been unable to awaken in a Buu form that wasn't innocent enough to allow it.

** Jossed with Vermoud being evil, as its been revealed [[DarkIsNotEvil he destroys evil and is proud of the Pride Troopers]]. Though he could still contrast Kai in a RedOniBlueOni way, or there could be a FreudianTrio with Vermoud, Kai and Macarita. If Kai is a stoic LawfulGood figure, Vermoud is a HotBlooded ChaoticGood figure(kind of like Goku actually, just more mature).

* Arak's character profile states he's really cautious and wants to expand the universe's development with the minimal amount of destruction, while Liquiir is proud, jovial and ThePerfectionist. Either Arack is a NiceGuy and Liquiir is a cruel god that happens to be really LawfulEvil (though [[EvenEvilHasStandards even he hates how universes were erased]]), or one's serious and all-business while the other is a lot more amiable. Iru is described as ambitious and Ogma as someone who prefers a balance of knowledge and power. Iru is probably more adventurous and willing to take a risk while Ogma, much like Sour, doesn't want to rock the boat. Given Universe 5's rank is higher than Universe 8, Ogma clearly knows what she's doing more so than Iru. Cukatail is notably one of the few angels who seems perturbed at the destruction the universe, despite it not even being his universe which is at risk. If so, Korn probably is one of the more amoral angels like Mojito.

ShockingSwerve, anyone? The Zenos are clearly infatuated with Goku, so what would they have to do if Goku's U7 is eliminated? They'd have to delete his universe and their friend. So in a moment that borders HeelFaceTurn for the Zenos, Goku's elimination causes the childlike gods to realize that maybe it's not all fun and games to willy-nilly eliminate everything and the end result is that they restore everything (or at least some of everything). Jiren is still able to make his supposedly selfish wish, and some form of HilarityEnsues is invoked to polish off the series. Alternatively...

* For guesses related to ''Dragon Ball Super'''s Universal Survival Arc, [[WMG/DragonBallSuperUniverseSurvivalArc go here]]
* For guesses related to ''Dragon Ball Super'''s Granolah the Survivor Arc, [[WMG/DragonBallSuperGranolahTheSurvivorArc go here]]

** Turles: a Rogue group of saiyans abandoned the idea of be peaceful protector and began using their powers for evil

* According to many sources, Bulla/Bra is born in the year following the events of Frieza's revival and invasion. So I posit the following with my dirty mind. Bulla/Bra comes about as a result of Bulma and Vegeta going at it like bunnies over either Frieza being destroyed, Whis reversing time and saving the world (and Vegeta) from destruction (in a Bulma only case), or both. Come on, the timing is perfect. Even if it isn't explicitly stated, it's the perfect moment for one of the characters to [[Main/GettingCrapPastTheRadar sneak a joke past the radar]] about the timing of Bulma's pregnancy.

[[folder:Granolah the Survivor Arc]]
[[WMG: Broly will appear in this arc]]
Given that Granolah has history with the Saiyan race, and how we still haven't seen Broly since his titular movie, it makes sense for this Saiyan to finally return.

[[WMG: The Namekians originated from Universe 6]]
Chapter 69 of the manga revealed that the Namekians didn't originate from Universe 7--in actuality, they moved there. The only other universe that was confirmed to have Namekians was Universe 6, so it's possible that this is where the Namekians actually came from.
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