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* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with graphical and gameplay updates alongside a new BonusDungeon for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Game Boy Advance version was then ported to the [=PlayStation=] Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D remake version of the game with considerably altered gameplay and story, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021 and [=PlayStation=] 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.

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* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, Platform/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation Platform/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Platform/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with graphical and gameplay updates alongside a new BonusDungeon for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance Platform/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Game Boy Advance version was then ported to the [=PlayStation=] Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS Platform/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D remake version of the game with considerably altered gameplay and story, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} PLatform/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole Platform/{{Wii}} Platform/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Platform/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021 and [=PlayStation=] 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.
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* CelebrityVoiceActor: In the Japanese 3D Remake version, Cecil is voiced by stage actor Shizuma Hodoshima and Golbez is played by veteran actor Takeshi Kaga, best known for his performance in ''Series/IronChef''.

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* CelebrityVoiceActor: In the Japanese 3D Remake version, version of ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'', Cecil is voiced by stage actor Shizuma Hodoshima and Golbez is played by veteran actor Takeshi Kaga, best known for his performance in ''Series/IronChef''.
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** Managing to [[VideoGameStealing obtain]] Dark Matter before using the Crystal on the FinalBoss (or during any phase in the [=iOS=] version) does not blunt the power of [[spoiler:Zeromus's Big Bang]], contrary to popular belief.[[note]] It is, in fact, ''using a spell or spell effect'' on Zeromus in the brief window between him shaking and Big Bang going out that heavily "nerfs" the next outgoing BB, in the SNES versions. At the start of the battle, though, using a spell on him ''at any point'' between the initial transformation and Big Bang #1 will nerf that Big Bang, and what triggered the rumor was almost certainly players opening with Edge stealing Dark Matter and then having Rydia use an attack spell or Rosa use Slow or somesuch on Zeromus, with players then thinking that stealing the special item had to be the trigger for the damage change, since ''of course'' [[SchmuckBait it couldn't be as simple as using a spell on him]], right?[[/note]] [[RedHerring Using the item has no effect]], but the rumor persists regardless, even on [[Website/TVTropes This Very Wiki]]. In a likely [[FandomNod nod]], Dark Matter ''does'' serve a purpose in the 3D remakes: if the player has the item in their inventory during NewGamePlus, landing the ''Lunar Whale'' on the surface of the Red Moon and using the item when prompted [[spoiler:leads to an encounter with one of the game's [[BonusBoss superbosses]], the Proto-Babil]].

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** Managing to [[VideoGameStealing obtain]] Dark Matter before using the Crystal on the FinalBoss (or during any phase in the [=iOS=] version) does not blunt the power of [[spoiler:Zeromus's Big Bang]], contrary to popular belief.[[note]] It is, in fact, ''using a spell or spell effect'' on Zeromus in the brief window between him shaking and Big Bang going out that heavily "nerfs" the next outgoing BB, in the SNES versions. At the start of the battle, though, using a spell on him ''at any point'' between the initial transformation and Big Bang #1 will nerf that Big Bang, and what triggered the rumor was almost certainly players opening with Edge stealing Dark Matter and then having Rydia use an attack spell or Rosa use Slow or somesuch on Zeromus, with players then thinking that stealing the special item had to be the trigger for the damage change, since ''of course'' [[SchmuckBait it couldn't be as simple as using a spell on him]], right?[[/note]] [[RedHerring Using the item has no effect]], but the rumor persists regardless, even on [[Website/TVTropes This Very Wiki]]. In a likely [[FandomNod nod]], Dark Matter ''does'' serve a purpose in the 3D remakes: if the player has the item in their inventory during NewGamePlus, landing the ''Lunar Whale'' on the surface of the Red Moon and using the item when prompted [[spoiler:leads to an encounter with one of the game's [[BonusBoss superbosses]], {{superboss}}es, the Proto-Babil]].


** Supposedly, the SNES version had roughly ''25%'' of the intended script. The 3D remake (initially released on the Nintendo DS in 2007) went on to expand the script (which, it turns out, is largely to the benefit of fleshing out Golbez, which is why he serves as the remake's logo). This isn't near the remaining 75% that was apparently abandoned, however.

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** Supposedly, three quarters of the original script had been left out of the SNES version had roughly ''25%'' of the intended script.version. The 3D remake (initially released on the Nintendo DS in 2007) went on to expand the script (which, it turns out, is largely to the benefit of fleshing out Golbez, which is why he serves as the remake's logo). This While the expanded script isn't near the remaining 75% that three quarters bigger according to what was apparently abandoned, however.cut, [[WordOfGod Takashi Tokita]], the scenario writer of the original version and the director of the remake, explains that what he meant was that the original story script was never cut, but during the development of the original version, the game's text could not fit in the cartridge and had to be revised to a quarter of the intended size.

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* DummiedOut: Many commands, status-ailment-healing items, and one-use spell-casting items were removed from the original North American version of the game. The status-healing items were replaced with items that healed every status instead.
** One was Cecil's Darkness, but his mirror image can cast that without a problem. This led to a lot of confusion and a bit of resentment on the part of SNES players when their shadow-self attacked exclusively with a power they themselves never had access to. It also made the resulting puzzle (i.e., letting him attack with the HP-depleting spell and defeat himself without you attacking) more difficult to figure out.
*** The most frustrating part, mechanically? That attack is the only fast and easy way to take out hordes of low-level enemies in the early game. Sacrifice a little health but skip dealing with a pack of goblins one by one? Yes please! But sorry, no export for you.

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* DummiedOut: Many commands, status-ailment-healing items, and one-use spell-casting items were removed from the original North American version of the game. game and the Easy Type Japanese release. The status-healing items were replaced with items a Remedy item that healed every status instead.
** One was Cecil's Darkness, Darkness ability, but his mirror image inner darkness can cast that without a problem. This led to a lot of confusion and a bit of resentment on the part of SNES players when their shadow-self attacked exclusively with a power they themselves never had access to. It also made the resulting puzzle (i.e., letting him attack with the HP-depleting spell and defeat himself without you attacking) more difficult to figure out.
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out. The most frustrating part, mechanically? That attack is the only fast and easy way to take out hordes of low-level enemies in the early game. Sacrifice a little health but skip dealing with a pack of goblins one by one? Yes please! But sorry, no export ability for you.you. Ironically, while intended to make the game easier and less confusing on those versions, it had the exact opposite effect.



* NoExportForYou: For some strange reason, the Steam version isn't available in Asia. Thankfully, the other versions of the game (iOS, Android and DS) are.

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* NoExportForYou: For some strange reason, the Steam version isn't available in Asia. Thankfully, the other versions of the game 3D remake (iOS, Android and DS) are.



* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with updates for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Gameboy Advance version was then ported to the Playstation Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D remake version of the game with considerably altered gameplay and story, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021 and Playstation 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own pretty much any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.

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* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with with graphical and gameplay updates alongside a new BonusDungeon for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Gameboy Game Boy Advance version was then ported to the Playstation [=PlayStation=] Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D remake version of the game with considerably altered gameplay and story, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021 and Playstation [=PlayStation=] 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own pretty much any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.



** There's also the unreleased Family Computer version of the game (allegedly an entirely different game, with this Super Famicom concept initially "Final Fantasy V"), which, despite original projections, was actually ''80%'' complete before it had to be shelved. From the sound of things, certain ideas were reused for the released ''Final Fantasy IV'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'', but Hironobu Sakaguchi still regretted that he had to let it go.

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** There's also the unreleased Family Computer version of the game (allegedly an entirely different game, with this Super Famicom concept initially "Final Fantasy V"), which, despite original projections, was actually apparently ''80%'' complete before it had to be shelved. From the sound of things, certain ideas were reused for the released ''Final Fantasy IV'' and ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyV'', but Hironobu Sakaguchi still regretted that he had to let it go.
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* TheWikiRule: The [[http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Wiki Final Fantasy Wiki.]]

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* CelebrityVoiceActor: In the Japanese port for the DS version, Cecil is voiced by stage actor Shizuma Hodoshima and Golbez is played by veteran actor Takeshi Kaga, best known for his performance in ''Series/IronChef''.

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* CelebrityVoiceActor: In the Japanese port for the DS 3D Remake version, Cecil is voiced by stage actor Shizuma Hodoshima and Golbez is played by veteran actor Takeshi Kaga, best known for his performance in ''Series/IronChef''.



* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with updates for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Gameboy Advance version was then ported to the Playstation Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D version of the game with considerably altered gameplay, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021 and Playstation 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own pretty much any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.

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* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with updates for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Gameboy Advance version was then ported to the Playstation Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D remake version of the game with considerably altered gameplay, gameplay and story, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021 and Playstation 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own pretty much any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.



** Supposedly, the SNES version had roughly ''25%'' of the intended script. The remakes (especially the DS in 2008) went on to expand the script (which, it turns out, is largely to the benefit of fleshing out Golbez, which is why he serves as the remake's logo). This isn't near the remaining 75% that was apparently abandoned, however.

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** Supposedly, the SNES version had roughly ''25%'' of the intended script. The remakes (especially 3D remake (initially released on the Nintendo DS in 2008) 2007) went on to expand the script (which, it turns out, is largely to the benefit of fleshing out Golbez, which is why he serves as the remake's logo). This isn't near the remaining 75% that was apparently abandoned, however.
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** Two weapons that exist but can never be found are the Hand Axe and the Assassin's Dagger, they're even mentioned in the ''Final Fantasy II (US)'' manual.
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*** Cid's weapons also do quadruple damage against machine-type enemies but you don't encounter machine-type enemies while he is in your party, which leads to the belief that he was supposed to be in your party longer.

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** ''Final Fantasy IV Settei Shiryou Hen'' has a screenshot of Kain using White magic. Data miners have found a chant animation for Kain and an empty spell list that would correspond to him in the game data.
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* DoingItForTheArt: The original plan when making the English port of the DS version was just to text dump the game's GBA script, and then hire someone to quickly translate the new scenes that didn't have counterparts in the GBA release. Translator Tom Slattery, however, considered ''IV'' his favorite title in the series and felt that previous translations had not been as good as they could have been. Thus he convinced his superiors to let him re-translate the entire script from scratch, both to make it more faithful to the original Japanese script and to give it more polish and flair, as long as he could still finish within the already-decided development schedule. [[{{Woolseyism}} His hard work is very noticeable]], and so appreciated that parts of it been integrated into the game's mythos, particularly his terminology for world terms, attacks, equipment, etc. The PSP ''Complete Collection'' that came out a few years later is mostly based on the GBA version with the translation polished a bit, but it also includes some of Slattery's scripting too.
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* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with updates for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Gameboy Advance version was then ported to the Playstation Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D version of the game with considerably altered gameplay, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021. In short, if you own pretty much any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.

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* PortOverdosed: The game was originally released on the UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem, and then given an UpdatedRerelease on the UsefulNotes/PlayStation and UsefulNotes/WonderSwan Color, then another re-release with updates for UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance and FOMA phones; the Gameboy Advance version was then ported to the Playstation Portable with ''The After Years'', getting a major graphics overhaul but leaving gameplay intact. The UsefulNotes/NintendoDS hosts a full 3D version of the game with considerably altered gameplay, and this version was ported to [[UsefulNotes/IOSGames iOS]] and Android, and then to UsefulNotes/{{Steam}} and Windows. The original SNES version and the [=PlayStation=] versions are available on the UsefulNotes/{{Wii}} UsefulNotes/VirtualConsole and UsefulNotes/{{PlayStation Network}}, and both the SNES and the GBA versions are on the Wii U Virtual Console. Finally, the Pixel Remaster port based on the original SNES version was announced for mobile phones and Steam in 2021.2021 and Playstation 4 and Switch in 2023. In short, if you own pretty much any Creator/{{Sony}} or Creator/{{Nintendo}} console manufactured in the last 10-15 years, own a cell phone, or own a computer, you can play a version of this game on it.
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** A rumor persisted that gear purchased in the town of Mythril could be safely equipped inside of the Lodestone Cavern, with the justification that mythril (or silver, as the original localization called it) isn't a ferrous metal. Every version of the game flags those items as metallic, subject to the cavern's rules.

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* AccidentallyAccurate: The SNES version's English localization is very rough, so Tellah calling Edward "[a] spoony bard" initially comes off as just another weird translation error. However, spoony is actually a word that means foolish or lovesick, which describes Edward perfectly. Thus, the bard [=IS=] spoony; they checked.



** It was rumored that in the original (i.e. Japanese) version of the game, it was possible for Cecil to de-petrify [[spoiler:Palom and Porom]] himself, by following some convoluted method which, depending to who you heard it from, [[spoiler:may involve the very real DevelopersRoom EasterEgg]]. You can't. It doesn't help that the game teases you by giving you an option to choose an item to use on them if you interact with their petrified form; no matter what you use, nothing will happen. (This is a holdover from the Japanese version, where you still couldn't actually accomplish anything but where there was at least a [[http://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-iv/baron-castle-2/ special message]] if you tried to use a Golden Needle to help them in an acknowledgement of the usual headscratcher of using curative items to reverse a PlotlineDeath. Since the Golden Needle was DummiedOut in the American/Easytype release, even that bare message is unavailable.)[[note]]It is possible that this rumor was spread thanks to a ''troll walkthrough'', ie a walkthrough that contains fake info just to mess with the player. See, at that time, there were ''troll walkthroughs'' from some bloke who goes by the name of Eggnog, and those walkthrough does mix these rumors with legitimate information to give it an air of credibility. Also, his name is similar to ''Mynock'', who was a really prolific walkthrough writer at that time. And well, Eggnog did publish one of his "guides" for Final Fantasy IV. This urban legend could've spread when some players managed to confuse Mynock's walkthrough with Eggnog's.[[/note]]

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** It was rumored that in the original (i.e. Japanese) version of the game, it was possible for Cecil to de-petrify [[spoiler:Palom and Porom]] himself, by following some convoluted method which, depending to who you heard it from, [[spoiler:may involve the very real DevelopersRoom EasterEgg]]. You can't. It doesn't help that the game teases you by giving you an option to choose an item to use on them if you interact with their petrified form; no matter what you use, nothing will happen. (This is a holdover from the Japanese version, where you still couldn't actually accomplish anything but where there was at least a [[http://legendsoflocalization.com/final-fantasy-iv/baron-castle-2/ special message]] if you tried to use a Golden Needle to help them in an acknowledgement of the usual headscratcher of using curative items to reverse a PlotlineDeath. Since the Golden Needle was DummiedOut in the American/Easytype release, even that bare message is unavailable.)[[note]]It is possible that this rumor was spread thanks to a ''troll walkthrough'', ie a walkthrough that contains fake info just to mess with the player. See, at that time, there were ''troll walkthroughs'' from some bloke who goes by the name of Eggnog, and those walkthrough does mix these rumors with legitimate information to give it an air of credibility. Also, his name is similar to ''Mynock'', who was a really prolific walkthrough writer at that time. And well, Eggnog did publish one of his "guides" for Final ''Final Fantasy IV.IV''. This urban legend could've spread when some players managed to confuse Mynock's walkthrough with Eggnog's.[[/note]]
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** Managing to [[VideoGameStealing obtain]] Dark Matter before using the Crystal on the FinalBoss (or during any phase in the [=iOS=] version) does not blunt the power of [[spoiler:Zeromus's Big Bang]], contrary to popular belief.[[note]] It is, in fact, ''using a spell or spell effect'' on Zeromus in the brief window between him shaking and Big Bang going out that heavily "nerfs" the next outgoing BB, in the SNES versions. At the start of the battle, though, using a spell on him ''at any point'' between the initial transformation and Big Bang #1 will nerf that Big Bang, and what triggered the rumor was almost certainly players opening with Edge stealing Dark Matter and then having Rydia use an attack spell or Rosa use Slow or somesuch on Zeromus, with players then thinking that stealing the special item had to be the trigger for the damage change, since ''of course'' [[SchmuckBait it couldn't be as simple as using a spell on him]], right?[[/note]] [[RedHerring Using the item has no effect]], but the rumor persists regardless, even on [[Wiki/TVTropes This Very Wiki]]. In a likely [[FandomNod nod]], Dark Matter ''does'' serve a purpose in the 3D remakes: if the player has the item in their inventory during NewGamePlus, landing the ''Lunar Whale'' on the surface of the Red Moon and using the item when prompted [[spoiler:leads to an encounter with one of the game's [[BonusBoss superbosses]], the Proto-Babil]].

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** Managing to [[VideoGameStealing obtain]] Dark Matter before using the Crystal on the FinalBoss (or during any phase in the [=iOS=] version) does not blunt the power of [[spoiler:Zeromus's Big Bang]], contrary to popular belief.[[note]] It is, in fact, ''using a spell or spell effect'' on Zeromus in the brief window between him shaking and Big Bang going out that heavily "nerfs" the next outgoing BB, in the SNES versions. At the start of the battle, though, using a spell on him ''at any point'' between the initial transformation and Big Bang #1 will nerf that Big Bang, and what triggered the rumor was almost certainly players opening with Edge stealing Dark Matter and then having Rydia use an attack spell or Rosa use Slow or somesuch on Zeromus, with players then thinking that stealing the special item had to be the trigger for the damage change, since ''of course'' [[SchmuckBait it couldn't be as simple as using a spell on him]], right?[[/note]] [[RedHerring Using the item has no effect]], but the rumor persists regardless, even on [[Wiki/TVTropes [[Website/TVTropes This Very Wiki]]. In a likely [[FandomNod nod]], Dark Matter ''does'' serve a purpose in the 3D remakes: if the player has the item in their inventory during NewGamePlus, landing the ''Lunar Whale'' on the surface of the Red Moon and using the item when prompted [[spoiler:leads to an encounter with one of the game's [[BonusBoss superbosses]], the Proto-Babil]].
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*** The most frustrating part, mechanically? That attack is the only fast and easy way to take out hordes of low-level enemies in the early game. Sacrifice a little health but skip dealing with a pack of goblins one by one? Yes please! But sorry, no import for you.

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*** The most frustrating part, mechanically? That attack is the only fast and easy way to take out hordes of low-level enemies in the early game. Sacrifice a little health but skip dealing with a pack of goblins one by one? Yes please! But sorry, no import export for you.

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** One was Cecil's Darkness, but his mirror image can cast that without a problem. This led to a lot of confusion and a bit of resentment on the part of SNES players when their shadow-self attacked exclusively with a power they themselves never had access to. It also made the resulting puzzle (ie, letting him attack with the HP-depleting spell and defeat himself without you attacking) more difficult to figure out.

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** One was Cecil's Darkness, but his mirror image can cast that without a problem. This led to a lot of confusion and a bit of resentment on the part of SNES players when their shadow-self attacked exclusively with a power they themselves never had access to. It also made the resulting puzzle (ie, (i.e., letting him attack with the HP-depleting spell and defeat himself without you attacking) more difficult to figure out.out.
*** The most frustrating part, mechanically? That attack is the only fast and easy way to take out hordes of low-level enemies in the early game. Sacrifice a little health but skip dealing with a pack of goblins one by one? Yes please! But sorry, no import for you.
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* FanNickname: The game is occasionally called ''Film/DieHard'' among {{speedrun}}ners, due to the 64 stairway trick mentioned in the main article.

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