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-->-- '''[[spoiler: Batman disguised as Hawkman]]''', ''ComicBook/PublicEnemies''

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-->-- '''[[spoiler: Batman disguised as Hawkman]]''', ''ComicBook/PublicEnemies''
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-> ''"[[IWorkAlone Batman works alone]]. [[InformedLoner Except for]] Robin, and Alfred, and Batgirl, and Commissioner Gordon, [[Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy and whoever Morgan Freeman played]], [the list continues offscreen].''"
-->--'''Batman''', ''WesternAnimation/DCLeagueOfSuperPets''
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->'''Mr. Freeze:''' Tonight I mean to pay back the man who ruined my life...''our'' lives...

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->'''Mr.->''' Mr. Freeze:''' Tonight I mean to pay back the man who ruined my life...''our'' '' our'' lives...



->'''Mr. Freeze:''' *nods* Think of it, Batman. To never again walk on a summer's day with a hot wind in your face, [[TearJerker and a warm hand to hold]]...oh yes. I'd ''kill'' for that.

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->'''Mr.->''' Mr. Freeze:''' *nods* Think of it, Batman. To never again walk on a summer's day with a hot wind in your face, [[TearJerker and a warm hand to hold]]...oh yes. I'd ''kill'' for that.



->'''Harley:''' There's one thing I gotta know: why'd you stay with me all day? Risking your life for someone who's never given you anything but trouble?

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->'''Harley:''' ->''' Harley:''' There's one thing I gotta know: why'd you stay with me all day? Risking your life for someone who's never given you anything but trouble?



->'''Harley:'''...Nice guys like you shouldn't have bad days. ''(kisses him on the cheek, turns away - then plants one on him)''

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->'''Harley:'''...->''' Harley:'''...Nice guys like you shouldn't have bad days. ''(kisses him on the cheek, turns away - then plants one on him)''



->'''Ace:''' When I was little, Cadmus used to make me play all kinds of games. They'd strap me into their machines and poke wires into my brain, "Ace, can you move this object with your mind?" ''(uproots a tree and launches it into the sky)'' Yeah. I can move it. They weren't really games, you know. They were training me, turning me into a weapon -- for "justice", they said. They got their weapon. I got cheated out of my childhood.\\

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->'''Ace:''' When I was little, Cadmus used to make me play all kinds of games. They weren't any fun either. They'd strap me into their machines and poke wires into my brain, "Ace, can you move this object with your mind?" ''(uproots a tree and launches it into the sky)'' Yeah. I can move it. They weren't really games, you know. They were training me, turning me into a weapon -- for "justice", they said. They got their weapon. I got cheated out of my childhood.\\



->'''Bruce:''' You don't know the first thing about the American justice system, do you?\\

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->'''Bruce:''' ->''' Bruce:''' You don't know the first thing about the American justice system, do you?\\



->'''Wonder Woman:''' So he could turn out like you?

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->'''Wonder ->''' Wonder Woman:''' So he could turn out like you?



->''Young man, you have two seconds to remove your hands from my person before I remove them for you.''
-->-- '''Alfred Pennyworth''' to the Goddamned '''''Batman''''', after the latter has grabbed him and shoved him against a wall, showing everyone that Batman is NoBadassToHisValet.

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->''Young ->'' Young man, you have two seconds to remove your hands from my person before I remove them for you.''
-->-- '''Alfred ''' Alfred Pennyworth''' to the Goddamned '''''Batman''''', after the latter has grabbed him and shoved him against a wall, showing everyone that Batman is NoBadassToHisValet.



->''It’s taken me years to accept what you told me back then, that you were there for me that night. Not as a vigilante swinging to the rescue, but as an ideal, as an inspiration. A voice I heard in darkness, commanding me to stand up. The same voice that tells us when we get beaten down, we can accept being a victim or choose to be the hero of our own stories. And we make that choice by standing up.''

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->''It’s ->'' It’s taken me years to accept what you told me back then, that you were there for me that night. Not as a vigilante swinging to the rescue, but as an ideal, as an inspiration. A voice I heard in darkness, commanding me to stand up. The same voice that tells us when we get beaten down, we can accept being a victim or choose to be the hero of our own stories. And we make that choice by standing up.''
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-->-- '''Batman''', ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''

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-->-- '''Batman''', ''ComicBook/IdentityCrisis''
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->''"Batman as a traumatized vigilante haunted by the death of his parents is a recent thing. It sounds crazy because of course having dead parents is Batman's most recognizable trait, but in his intial characterization he wasn't traumatized, he was motivated. He went through something horrible and decided he would devote his life to guaranteeing that nobody would have to go through something like that ever again...by dressing up like a bat and punching crime in the face. The modern version where the death of his parents haunts him and twists him into a nightstalking monster is recent. And you know something? This is all Creator/AlanMoore's fault. As a much as I appreciate ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', it unintentionally sparked the idea that deep down, Batman and Joker were the same. That they were both broken men driven by tragedy beyond the limits of sanity. But Alan Moore didn't mean for that to be the takeaway from the comic. In ''The Killing Joke'' the Joker is ''wrong.'' His premise that all it takes is one bad day to become exactly like him is blatantly disproven, both by Batman and Jim Gordon. [...] The idea that Batman does what he does because he's cracked completely defeats the purpose of his character. He does what he does because he knows what it's like to be powerless, so he takes it upon himself to be the power that helps the powerless. A good sign of whether or not your Batman is being characterized properly is as follows: Could you picture this Batman comforting a scared child? If yes, congratulations! This a certified Batman. If not, I'm afraid you instead have ComicBook/ThePunisher in a silly hat."''

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->''"Batman as a traumatized vigilante haunted by the death of his parents is a recent thing. It sounds crazy because of course having dead parents is Batman's most recognizable trait, but in his intial characterization he wasn't traumatized, he was motivated. He went through something horrible and decided he would devote his life to guaranteeing that nobody would have to go through something like that ever again...by dressing up like a bat and punching crime in the face. The modern version where the death of his parents haunts him and twists him into a nightstalking monster is recent. And you know something? This is all Creator/AlanMoore's fault. As a much as I appreciate ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', it unintentionally sparked the idea that deep down, Batman and Joker were the same. That they were both broken men driven by tragedy beyond the limits of sanity. But Alan Moore didn't mean for that to be the takeaway from the comic. In ''The Killing Joke'' the Joker is ''wrong.'' His premise that all it takes is one bad day to become exactly like him is blatantly disproven, both by Batman and Jim Gordon. [...] The idea that Batman does what he does because he's cracked completely defeats the purpose of his character. He does what he does because he knows what it's like to be powerless, so he takes it upon himself to be the power that helps the powerless. A good sign of whether or not your Batman is being characterized properly is as follows: Could you picture this Batman comforting a scared child? If yes, congratulations! This is a certified Batman. If not, I'm afraid you instead have ComicBook/ThePunisher in a silly hat."''
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->''"Batman as a traumatized vigilante haunted by the death of his parents is a recent thing. It sounds crazy because of course having dead parent is Batman's most recognizable trait, but in his intial characterization he wasn't traumatized, he was motivated. He went through something horrible and decided he would devote his life to guaranteeing that nobody would have to go through something like that ever again...by dressing up like a bat and punching crime in the face. The modern version where the death of his parents' death haunts him and twists him into a nightstalking monster is recent. And you know something? This is all Creator/AlanMoore's fault. As a much as I appreciate ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', it unintentionally sparked the idea that deep down, Batman and Joker were the same. That they were both broken men driven by tragedy beyond the limits of sanity. But Alan Moore didn't mean for that to be the takeaway from the comic. In ''The Killing Joke'' the Joker is ''wrong.'' His premise that all it takes is one bad day to become exactly like him is blatantly disproven, both by Batman and Jim Gordon. [...] The idea that Batman does what he does because he's cracked completely defeats the purpose of his character. He does what he does because he knows what it's like to be powerless, so he takes it upon himself to be the power that helps the powerless. A good sign of whether or not your Batman is being characterized properly is as follows: Could you picture this Batman comforting a scared child? If yes, congratulations! This a certified Batman. If not, I'm afraid you instead have ComicBook/ThePunisher in a silly hat."''

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->''"Batman as a traumatized vigilante haunted by the death of his parents is a recent thing. It sounds crazy because of course having dead parent parents is Batman's most recognizable trait, but in his intial characterization he wasn't traumatized, he was motivated. He went through something horrible and decided he would devote his life to guaranteeing that nobody would have to go through something like that ever again...by dressing up like a bat and punching crime in the face. The modern version where the death of his parents' death parents haunts him and twists him into a nightstalking monster is recent. And you know something? This is all Creator/AlanMoore's fault. As a much as I appreciate ''ComicBook/TheKillingJoke'', it unintentionally sparked the idea that deep down, Batman and Joker were the same. That they were both broken men driven by tragedy beyond the limits of sanity. But Alan Moore didn't mean for that to be the takeaway from the comic. In ''The Killing Joke'' the Joker is ''wrong.'' His premise that all it takes is one bad day to become exactly like him is blatantly disproven, both by Batman and Jim Gordon. [...] The idea that Batman does what he does because he's cracked completely defeats the purpose of his character. He does what he does because he knows what it's like to be powerless, so he takes it upon himself to be the power that helps the powerless. A good sign of whether or not your Batman is being characterized properly is as follows: Could you picture this Batman comforting a scared child? If yes, congratulations! This a certified Batman. If not, I'm afraid you instead have ComicBook/ThePunisher in a silly hat."''
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->''"The night was his time, the shadows were his place. Like the bat from which he took his name he saw with his hands and feet and ears. As Bruce Wayne, he was cheerful, poshy, full of savoir faire and bonhomie, a fellow easily imagined n front of the fire in his book-lined library, with a balloon glass of brandy and a bowl of Cheez Doodles near at hand. But when the Bat-Signal floated against one of Gotham's skyscrapers(or perhaps the underside of a handy passing cloud) a grim and unsmiling creature emerged from the Bat-Cave. You could shoot him and he would bleed...you could crank him a good one on the head and he would fold up (at least for a little while)...but you could never, ''never'' stop him."''

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->''"The night was his time, the shadows were his place. Like the bat from which he took his name he saw with his hands and feet and ears. As Bruce Wayne, he was cheerful, poshy, full of savoir faire and bonhomie, a fellow easily imagined n in front of the fire in his book-lined library, with a balloon glass of brandy and a bowl of Cheez Doodles near at hand. But when the Bat-Signal floated against one of Gotham's skyscrapers(or perhaps the underside of a handy passing cloud) a grim and unsmiling creature emerged from the Bat-Cave. You could shoot him and he would bleed...you could crank him a good one on the head and he would fold up (at least for a little while)...but you could never, ''never'' stop him."''
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-->''"The night was his time, the shadows were his place. Like the bat from which he took his name he saw with his hands and feet and ears. As Bruce Wayne, he was cheerful, poshy, full of savoir faire and bonhomie, a fellow easily imagined n front of the fire in his book-lined library, with a balloon glass of brandy and a bowl of Cheez Doodles near at hand. But when the Bat-Signal floated against one of Gotham's skyscrapers(or perhaps the underside of a handy passing cloud) a grim and unsmiling creature emerged from the Bat-Cave. You could shoot him and he would bleed...you could crank him a good one on the head and he would fold up (at least for a little while)...but you could never, ''never'' stop him."''

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-->''"The ->''"The night was his time, the shadows were his place. Like the bat from which he took his name he saw with his hands and feet and ears. As Bruce Wayne, he was cheerful, poshy, full of savoir faire and bonhomie, a fellow easily imagined n front of the fire in his book-lined library, with a balloon glass of brandy and a bowl of Cheez Doodles near at hand. But when the Bat-Signal floated against one of Gotham's skyscrapers(or perhaps the underside of a handy passing cloud) a grim and unsmiling creature emerged from the Bat-Cave. You could shoot him and he would bleed...you could crank him a good one on the head and he would fold up (at least for a little while)...but you could never, ''never'' stop him."''
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-->''"The night was his time, the shadows were his place. Like the bat from which he took his name he saw with his hands and feet and ears. As Bruce Wayne, he was cheerful, poshy, full of savoir faire and bonhomie, a fellow easily imagined n front of the fire in his book-lined library, with a balloon glass of brandy and a bowl of Cheez Doodles near at hand. But when the Bat-Signal floated against one of Gotham's skyscrapers(or perhaps the underside of a handy passing cloud) a grim and unsmiling creature emerged from the Bat-Cave. You could shoot him and he would bleed...you could crank him a good one on the head and he would fold up (at least for a little while)...but you could never, ''never'' stop him."''
-->--''Creator/StephenKing'', [[https://imgur.com/a/vYORK "Why I Chose Batman"]], ComicBook/{{Batman}} #400

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->'''Barry Allen:''' You're...You are...\\
'''Need We Say It?:''' Yeah...I'm Batman.
-->--''Film/{{The Flash|2023}}''

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->''"He died... sssaving the city... No, that's not true... he sssaved the city, yes... but he died ssssaving me. I ssssaid, 'I'm not worth it.' He said, '''Everyone's'' worth it.'"''
-->--'''Clayface giving a eulogy providing just one of many possible ways Batman died''', ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheCapedCrusader''
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-->-- [[Series/TheDailyShow Jon Stewart]], to [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} Jimmy Wales]]

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-->-- [[Series/TheDailyShow Jon Stewart]], to [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} [[Website/{{Wikipedia}} Jimmy Wales]]
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->''"If I were to go on [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} there]] and write that, I don't know, I'm Batman, how long would I legitimately be Batman?"''

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->''"If I were to go on [[Wiki/{{Wikipedia}} [[Website/{{Wikipedia}} there]] and write that, I don't know, I'm Batman, how long would I legitimately be Batman?"''
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-->-- '''Machinima/SanityNotIncluded'''

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-->-- '''Machinima/SanityNotIncluded'''
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-->-- '''[[spoiler: Batman disguised as Hawkman]]''', ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' #5

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-->-- '''[[spoiler: Batman disguised as Hawkman]]''', ''ComicBook/SupermanBatman'' #5
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-->-- ComicBook/BatmanRIP

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-->-- ComicBook/BatmanRIP
''[[ComicBook/BatmanGrantMorrison Batman RIP]]''
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->''"Batman wears the night as a costume and makes himself the patron saint of unknown terrors. He isn't about order; he's about control, which is much more protean. He became an avatar of the same unpredictability that ruined his life. Both hero and villain agree that life is horrifying and brutal, but ComicBook/TheJoker wants everyone to see that there's nothing to be done for it, so you might as well laugh -- and, in fact, you might not be able to stop laughing well past the point of coughing up blood. The Dark Knight, by contrast, knows that [[CrazyPrepared a diverse skill set readies a man for any situation]]. And in a city where the parks department poisons white swans, he's right. That's why he carries a tool in his utility belt for every predicament from shark attack to a Music/NickiMinaj concert"''
-->-- '''Brendan [=McGinley=]''', [[https://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-batman-always-wins "5 Reasons Batman Always Wins"]]
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->''"Marcus, this isn't you. At least, it doesn't have to be. I saw what happened to your parents. I know what you're feeling. A man with a gun once took away people I loved. I never stopped missing them. Never forgot how painful it was to be alone. You can't bring your parents back, but you can break the cycle of violence that took them. Don't be a part of it, Marcus. Don't become what killed our families."''
-->--'''Batman to a kid whose parents were murdered and is pointing a gun at him''', ''Batman: War on Crime''
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-->-- '''[[spoiler: The Archivist-Bruce fusion, so we'll let you decide if he is Batman or not]]''', ''[[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Return of Bruce Wayne]]'' #6

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-->-- '''[[spoiler: The Archivist-Bruce fusion, so we'll let you decide if he is Batman or not]]''', ''[[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman ''[[ComicBook/BatmanGrantMorrison Return of Bruce Wayne]]'' #6



-->-- ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'' [[labelnote:note]]And [[http://www.engrish.com/2017/08/batman-begins/ the inevitable inversion.]][[/labelnote]]

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-->-- ''Comicbook/{{Runaways}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' [[labelnote:note]]And [[http://www.engrish.com/2017/08/batman-begins/ the inevitable inversion.]][[/labelnote]]



-->-- '''Wally West''', ''[[Comicbook/DCRebirth DC Universe: Rebirth]]''

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-->-- '''Wally West''', ''[[Comicbook/DCRebirth ''[[ComicBook/DCRebirth DC Universe: Rebirth]]''



-->-- '''ComicBook/RedRobin''', ''[[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman Return of Bruce Wayne #6]]'', '''Robin brings it back to first principles for us.'''

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-->-- '''ComicBook/RedRobin''', ''[[ComicBook/GrantMorrisonsBatman ''[[ComicBook/BatmanGrantMorrison Return of Bruce Wayne #6]]'', '''Robin brings it back to first principles for us.'''



-->-- ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice''

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-->-- ''WesternAnimation/YoungJustice''
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-->-- ''WebSite/SFDebris'' on ''Film/TheDarkKnight''

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-->-- ''WebSite/SFDebris'' ''Website/SFDebris'' on ''Film/TheDarkKnight''



-->--''Comicbook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth''

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-->--''Comicbook/ArkhamAsylumASeriousHouseOnSeriousEarth''
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-->-- '''Franchise/{{Superman}}''' to Franchise/{{Batman}}, ''Comicbook/KingdomCome''

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-->-- '''Franchise/{{Superman}}''' to Franchise/{{Batman}}, ''Comicbook/KingdomCome''
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-->-- ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamOrigins''

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-->-- ''Videogame/BatmanArkhamOrigins''
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->Batman is no noble hero. He isn't the person people look up to. He doesn't inspire others like [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Captain Steve Rogers]] would, or cradle hope like [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Superman]] can. He doesn't save a burning school bus full of kids that's going in the river. Batman ''isn't a hero''. Rather, he would mercilessly stalk the deranged psychopath that wants to use school buses as tinderboxes, haunt his dreams, catch him when he least expects it, and burn a hole through his non-existent soul.

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->Batman is no noble hero. He isn't the person people look up to. He doesn't inspire others like [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Captain Steve Rogers]] would, or cradle hope like [[Franchise/{{Superman}} Superman]] Franchise/{{Superman}} can. He doesn't save a burning school bus full of kids that's going in the river. Batman ''isn't a hero''. Rather, he would mercilessly stalk the deranged psychopath that wants to use school buses as tinderboxes, haunt his dreams, catch him when he least expects it, and burn a hole through his non-existent soul.



->'''Batman''': "[[{{Terror Hero}} Fear is a tool.]] When that light hits the sky...it's not just a call. [[{{TheDreaded}} It's a warning.]]"

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->'''Batman''': "[[{{Terror Hero}} "[[TerrorHero Fear is a tool.]] When that light hits the sky...it's not just a call. [[{{TheDreaded}} [[TheDreaded It's a warning.]]"
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->''"No superhero fascinated (Michael) Uslan like Batman. Unlike Superman, Batman didn’t have special powers. His strength came from his will, training, and armored flying suit. Batman was human and damaged—as a child, he’d watched a stranger murder his parents and swore to avenge their deaths. That origin story deeply affected Uslan, who couldn’t consider a world in which his mom and dad didn’t exist."''
-->--'''Camille Dodero''', ''[[https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/68306/boy-who-saved-batman The Boy Who Saved Batman]]''
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->'''[[PerkyGoth Dark Esther]]''': [[https://badmachinery.com/comic/a-feather-quill-from-his-cloak/ “He’s the BYRON of beating up criminals… …the ultimate fighting goth!”]]
-->--'''ComicBook/GiantDays'''

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->'''[[PerkyGoth Dark Esther]]''': [[https://badmachinery.->[[https://badmachinery.com/comic/a-feather-quill-from-his-cloak/ “He’s the BYRON of beating up criminals… …the ultimate fighting goth!”]]
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-->--'''[[PerkyGoth Dark Esther]]''', ''ComicBook/GiantDays''
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->'''[[PerkyGoth Dark Esther]]''': [[https://badmachinery.com/comic/a-feather-quill-from-his-cloak/ “He’s the BYRON of beating up criminals… …the ultimate fighting goth!”]]
-->--'''ComicBook/GiantDays'''

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