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* John trying to get Rose to [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004822 stop acting so dark]] and [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004823 act the way she used to.]] The meta bit is that both John ''and'' the readers have been worried about her, and we're both relieved. Also on Funny.{{Homestuck}}.

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* John trying to get Rose to [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004822 stop acting so dark]] and [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004823 act the way she used to.]] The meta bit is that both John ''and'' the readers have been worried about her, and we're both relieved. Also on Funny.{{Homestuck}}.]]



* A meta example; Andrew's comments on the two year anniversary. Sometimes he makes his readers wonder if he appreciates us. Now is not one of those times. [[note]]"The two year anniversary of HS has come and gone. Not as much fanfare in-story about it as I'd hoped, but at least it got a nod. Remember when games came on multiple disks? You always were asked to swap during a kind of peculiar and underwhelming moment, like walking through a thing, or talking to a guy. Sometimes it was shortly after you got an airship, or something. I had plans to do something a little more mesmerizing, like last year, but started running out of time. So I revised the plans, then ran out of time for THOSE too. And so on, til I said screw it. Disc 1 probably wouldn't have been able to fit another hefty animation in it anyway. Those discs are only like what, 700 MB?? It takes a lot to meet a deadline coming up fast, when the thing you are planning is meant to be a BIG DEAL, by definition. First you must come up with an animation idea, and that itself will take a long time to make. Then you must move the story along to the exact precipice of that moment, which also takes time, and must do so with enough time left to animate! Plenty of ways to blow it. Making this story on the fly requires not just a lot of drawing and writing, but the sensibilities of a producer. Knowing when to appropriate large amounts of effort for what purposes given various time constraints. I make adjustments to plans all the time, just like I did with the last 4/13 milestone (was originally scheduling end of act 4 for that). Hence this milestone was less jaw dropping, but then if you recall, the original 4/13 celebration was pretty underwhelming too. What will next 4/13 bring? Guess we'll see. If I'm taking the time to reflect on two years of Homestuck as an achievement I'll do so here only as a gesture of gratitude to the steadfast readers, new and old. I am humbled by your devotion. This is not any sort of platitude to be dismissed as quasi-sincere acceptance speech fodder, or a dispatch from my PR department because sometimes you guys give me money for stuff. This is sincerely true. I look around and still cannot quite believe the magnitude of the enthusiasm that surrounds this story. I stopped being able to keep track of all the fan art for it more than a year ago, and even then there were thousands of fan-made images I would diligently attempt to pore through. I have honestly never seen so much fan art created for anything, anywhere, ever. Even things which have millions of dollars backing their production budgets. Maybe Harry Potter has more? (Alright let's get real. HS fan art is probably just now beginning to approach the subset of drawings that involve Harry being naked with somebody.) Greater and greater hordes of troll cosplayers can be spotted taking over the floors of conventions. You could have pressed me on the subject, but I never would have guessed anyone could be quite so tickled to be slathered in messy gray makeup and crowned by a homemade pair of horns. There is this seething passion for HS that is a self-organizing, autonomous entity unto itself, which is practically inaccessible to my understanding or involvement, even though I'm responsible for the content driving it. I've kept Homestuck's fire hot; its gaping furnace was hungry for coal so I got goddamn shoveling. But you have been responsible for breathing life into this monstrous organism which surrounds me, and now in its breadth transcends my work entirely. To thank you as a whole for this phenomenon almost doesn't sound rational. It's like thanking a furious thunderstorm for the deluge of rain it gave to your thirsty little box of poseys. My paltry utterance dissipates in the far deep rumbling. The clouds don't even notice I'm there because they're too busy swapping fan fiction. Maybe instead I'll offer something more significant than gratitude. Something more personal and experiential. I'll submit my amazement. You can't see me now, but it is a look of wonder and discovery. A boyish look of astonishment at something remarkable beyond words, like a butterfly emerging from a cocoon, but on a more cosmic scale and more viscerally shocking. Like a squealing horrorterror's gruesome Cesarean birth. That is the look I have every time I disrupt the tunnel vision that keeps the work's bright sun searing my eyes. When they adjust to the dark, I see the silhouette in soft black focus of the young planet sized monster, chirping its affections. I offer it this look because it is all I have to give, with the exception of the tears streaming down my face. Its hunger is piqued at the fluid and my only regret is I can never possibly provide enough to nourish the orphan, now that it can never know the taste of its dead mother's heinous teatbrine. Or... Or I could just say thanks guys. LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN YEAR THREE!!!!!!!!"[[/note]]




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* [[http://web.archive.org/web/20110420022304/http://mspaintadventures.com/ Hussie's thank you to the fandom on Homestuck's 2 year anniversary.]]
* Creator/DanteBasco being really, genuinely [[http://rufiozuko.tumblr.com/post/18373744910/im-caught-up-i-cant-believe-i-had-to-go-back touched]] about how much people care about him reading Homestuck and the amount of attention Andrew Hussie personally is giving him.
-->''You know, this whole Homestuck fiasco, is one of the most unique and strange things that has happend to me. One, I’ve never read anything remotely close to this, I’ve never read a webcomic in my life. Also, I’ve never read anything with a couple thousand people kind of guiding me along the way, this whole experience is mind blowing! I mean the author [[http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/18341766703 greeted me on the screen]] and entering this whole world that I had no idea even existed a few days ago feels like stepping into a new dimension, and with tumblr, I can feel you guys all here with me… I don’t know, it’s late, I’m tired, my mind is tired… I’m Homestuck.''
** Dante embracing the comic as much as he is. He actually shows a genuine interest in reading, and it just warms one's heart to think that famous people also like Homestuck.
** And really, just the adorable way he blogs his thoughts about the comic. It definitely brings the "awws" to a not-insignificant amount of his followers.
** Humorously summed up in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQrCeqij7bk this]] [[WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} video]]. [[Memes/{{Homestuck}} You're welcome]].
** When he learns of Rufioh Nitram's existence, [[http://rufiozuko.tumblr.com/post/34091889502/rufioh he says this:]]
-->Just found out I somehow I [[ARareSentence became immortalized by becoming a troll]]… Hussie… to say I’m honored is an understatement.
* Recently, Hussie set up a Kickstarter to make a Homestuck game once done with the comic. It reached a 100,000 dollars within the first day. For a while, the fans gave him a thousand dollars a minute. It really shows how ready the fans are to support Homestuck the moment Hussie asks for help.
-->[[http://mspandrew.tumblr.com/post/31004138873/you-find-a-fatherly-note-taped-to-your-tumblr-dash-it I have never been so proud of you.]]
** As of this writing, two people have donated five thousand dollars each, and one heroic soul has donated ''ten thousand dollars''. That is love of the comic, pure and simple. Well, more complex than simple in the sense that money is a complex thing and quite a lot of it is quite complex indeed, but you get the idea.
*** The man who donated the ten thousand dollars is a soldier who's deployed in Afghanistan, and he always finds Homestuck updates as something to look forward to. Think about it: he had $10,000 to spare and instead of, say, using it to bribe the higher-ups to let him duck out of duty, he donated it to Hussie's cause. D'aw.
** The fans managed to reach the goal of 700,000 dollars in '''32 HOURS.''' And the number's still climbing. If that doesn't prove just how much the fans love and support Hussie and Homestuck, nothing does.
** Almost '''$1,260,000''' as of 11:30 PM 9/14/2012, and there's still 19 days to go!
*** 9/25/12: '''''$1,712,000+!'''''
*** 10-01-12: We've breached the two million mark.
*** As of the Kickstarter's completion, it had reached $2.48 million dollars, not counting the funding from the alternate non-Paypal donations.
* At ECCC, Hussie signs a Davesprite cosplayer's [[http://cheftier.tumblr.com/image/44566211021 prepared certificate]]:
-->I, Andrew Hussie, do hereby declare that the being known as 'Davesprite' is 100% CERTIFIABLE DAVE and not a discount bargain bin Dave.
* What does Hussie do on the seventh anniversary of Homestuck after "Caliborn's Masterpiece" and a massive [[TakeThatAudience jab at the theorists in the fandom]]? A massive flash made almost entirely by the fans. Awww.
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* Not only does Serenity act as a HopeBringer and give everyone their HeroicSecondWind, but at long last she ''finally'' reunites with WV, who's clearly happy to see her again.
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* All the dialogue with the Tricksters (well, at least up until Dirk becomes one) is a mix of this, TastesLikeDiabetes, SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, and a slight bit of horror. Even if the characters are solving their problems superficially, it almost feels like Homestuck is however fleetingly about Kids & Fun again.

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* All the dialogue with the Tricksters (well, at least up until Dirk becomes one) is a mix of this, TastesLikeDiabetes, saccharine, SugarWiki/FunnyMoments, and a slight bit of horror. Even if the characters are solving their problems superficially, it almost feels like Homestuck is however fleetingly about Kids & Fun again.
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** Also consider the [[KillEmAll nature of most trolls]]. Good Dolorosa. Best mama.

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* Latula reveals Meenah timed her Tumor explosion right before their Scratch so the God-Tiered players could not be revived and erased out of existence. In other words, she timed her KillEmAll plan so that ALL her teammates would join her on the other side, not just some of them.

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* [[http://mspaintadventures.com/scratch.php?s=6&p=005953 This page]] reveals that the pre-Scratch version of the trolls got a chance to live normal lives on a peaceful Alternia, and that trolls aren't [[InTheBlood inherently]] [[AlwaysChaoticEvil evil]].

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* Meta-examples via Fandom Secrets: [[http://i42.tinypic.com/vdjub7.jpg this one]] and [[http://i39.tinypic.com/25he8nb.png this one]].
** On a similar note, [[http://thankyou-homestuck.tumblr.com this entire blog]]
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLo22lvynNg A look at the Midnight Crew through the eyes of Clubs Deuce.]] (It's fan-created, but still very, very adorable and fitting.)
** Hussie even made it canon.
* [[http://latiaiam.deviantart.com/art/just-a-reminder-comic-213811317 This]] puts the relationship between John and his dad in a whole new light.



* How much the fandom has embraced Calliope's true appearance is really touching. There have been waves of fan content with people telling her she's beautiful and gorgeous fan art of her, and it's just really nice. This fandom really loves their characters.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyKJWXHC6U A Terezi Cosplayer who actually happens to be legally blind.]] [[note]]As the uploader states, she can only see vague shapes and colors.[[/note]] You can tell she's simply having a blast with the character.
* [[http://pookie776.deviantart.com/art/whew-glad-we-got-that-cleared-up-275169322 Another version]] of Karkat talking down Kanaya from going clown hunting after Gamzee.
* [[http://conniiption.deviantart.com/art/Miracle-Modus-215724026 Miracle Modus.]]
* [[http://kayotics.tumblr.com/image/6166948952 This.]] Doubles as a major TearJerker.
* [[http://scarvenrot.tumblr.com/post/26923402043/daves-lullaby Dave's Lullaby]].
* Toward the end of the purely amazing [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q_jGwcNuGY [S] Kids: Rise Up]], the four kids finally meet each other in person (something which hasn't even happened in-canon yet). Cute hugs happen and it's just really heartwarming.



* This message on Sadstuck:
-->'[[http://sadstuck.tumblr.com/post/28505637078/girl-a-i-like-to-think-that-years-after i like to think that years after homestuck has ended]] and the fandom has dispersed and moved on that april 13th will always be this oddly special day in our hearts and if we tell people and they ask why that we say, “oh, it was an old friend’s birthday.”'
* [[http://youtu.be/Fhrd-IHdjRw Dolorosa Knows Best.]]
* [[http://artfromhopeandheart.tumblr.com/post/30574034838 Fight for her.]]
* [[http://dorkstrider.tumblr.com/post/35273545641/this-time-next-year-everybody-will-forget-about Homestuck can't be forgotten.]]
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9e-ReNtyFs This video]] by Master Yorgi.
** And in possibly the the strangest overlap with SugarWiki/FunnyMoments ever, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSoJvKFyWQg this video]] as well. Sing on, mirthful messiah.
** Crossing over with SugarWiki/{{Funny|Moments}}, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UB4V6VW4PRA this video]] showing how Tavros thinks of Gamzee. It's completely adorable.
*** It's not helped/hurt at all by [[WesternAnimation/ToyStory You've Got A Friend In Me]] playing in the background.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ7Wd2Z75Ew This comic dub]]. Dirk ends up seeming like the Alpha Kids' TeamDad. The caption for the Tumblr version (link in the video) makes it a bit of a SugarWiki/{{Funny Moment|s}}, too.
* At AWA 2012, we get [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_jysVNQ5h4 this.]] Had it not been for a tiny convention in Chatanooga where they were all cosplaying the same series, these two never would have met.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSXiVgcu_WU This video.]] Along with the Crowning Moments of Funny (giant boobs of love), John is just such a sweet guy.
* One tumblr user [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41529814421/okay-you-see-this-shit-right-here-this-was-drawn shared a picture of a fantroll that their 7-year-old brother drew.]] A few hours later, the fantroll had [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41541361072/doodled-quick-falcon-doodle-before-i-have-to-go several]] [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41541209552/hello-im-kinda-colorblind-im-sorry-qxq dozen]] [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41539513674/hopping-on-the-falcin-bandwagon-here-tosses pieces]] [[http://skaiianet.tumblr.com/post/41537153970/vriskanon-okay-you-see-this-shit-right-here of]] [[http://mikkynga.tumblr.com/post/41536603418/vriskanon-okay-you-see-this-shit-right-here fanart]], at [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41535526295/so-i-made-a-falcin-sprite-wasnt-sure-if-he-was least]] [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41536268951/so-heres-that-sprite-i-promised-because-your three]] [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41538529852/many-exclamation-points sprites]], a [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41539733505/sorry-im-late-to-the-party-lol-the-party-wont talksprite]] or [[http://vriskanon.tumblr.com/post/41540013960/i-had-to-embraces-wholeheartedly two]], and his own [[http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/falcin tag on tumblr.]] Seeing the fandom embrace the creation of this little kid so openly and enthusiastically is, quite frankly, amazing.
* [[http://iwasprinceofmpregonce.tumblr.com/post/20765244289/possibly-the-cutest-moment-dave BRO HUGS]]
* [[http://motivationstuck.tumblr.com/post/41991520091/goulem-motivationstuck-is-my-new-drug-wowow This.]] As well as the rest of the blog.
* On a meta level, the horror-filled conclusion to Act 6 Act 5 Act 1 X 2 Combo sent the fandom into a dismayed, panicked frenzy. Then Act 6 Intermission 5 began with [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments Karkat talking into a crab-shaped walkie talkie]], and everyone calmed down to laugh and squee and draw Karkat in WesternAnimation/KimPossible cosplay. That's right; Karkat managed to shooshpap the entire fandom.



* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYAlAXak_Ow This]], brought to use by Octopimp and Creator/KiraBuckland. It may just be a dramatic reading of one of the moments in [=A6A3=] above, but...!
* [[http://msparp.com/chat/2d2e0511df0d42abac3212661593e4b4/log This MSPARP between Slick and Paint]] turned out pretty sweet.
* [[http://salihombox.deviantart.com/art/Jade-had-a-dream-337654137 Jade had a Dream]] part {{Tearjerker}} comic about a dream Jade has on the three year journey.
* [[http://chesuka.tumblr.com/post/54812198732 He chose me.]]
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvN5PHBtSWw Equius and Nepeta forgive Gamzee]]. Doubles as a TearJerker.
* [[http://msparp.com/chat/c2baf16e5c7d4e3a9348e24e03e4acd5/log Karkat meets the Sufferer.]] Mixed with a bit of TearJerker.
* [[http://msparp.com/chat/e0f38ffcb4ad4640bd0ad188f323b004/log Mindfang and the Summoner reunite.]]
* [[http://msparp.com/chat/35a67a7e71794852b733a9087341f906/log Sollux meets the Psiioniic.]]
* Also a giant TearJerker: [[http://pestergamzeeandtavros.tumblr.com/post/44824684173/a-days-work-well-spent-or-wasted-you-decide Gamzee]] has just [[WesternAnimation/AdventureTime one thing to ask of Calliope...]]
-->'''Gamzee:''' ''Please forgive me for whatever I do...when I don't remember you...''
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru64ocnb87M This cosplay skit]] is mostly just hilarious, but there are some heartwarming moments too. Including:
** Tavros forgiving--and ''thanking''--Kanaya for sawing off his legs so that they can be replaced with robot legs for him to walk with.
** Kanaya and Rose's reunion after Kanaya is declared innocent of her charges.
*** If you look closely at the crowd during Kanaya's sentencing, Vriska--one of the people Kanaya is accused of assaulting--declares her ''innocent''.
** Equius and Nepeta hugging after recounting their respective deaths.
** Karkat standing up for Gamzee after he's put on trial and then loudly objecting to him being executed. This promptly leads to [[spoiler:Terezi calming him down by revealing to him that it's not a real trial and that nobody's actually going to be executed]].
* On the music side of things, [[https://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/phantasmic-youngsters-2 "Phantasmic Youngsters"]]. Such a happy song. And, if the multitude of comments on Website/YouTube are to be believed, will conjure images of the Kids and Trolls [[SugarWiki/{{WAFF}} having a fun happy picnic together]]. [[TrueCompanions Awwww!]]
* Basically anything on askthes1gnless where his descendants are involved, but especially the description of [[http://askthes1gnless.tumblr.com/post/37945497152/i-am-prepared-t9-fling-myself-in-fr9nt-of-a-h9ard this]] short comic.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGDjRLbaQ-I "The Happiest Homestuck Song Ever"]] may well deserve it's title.
* In "Let's Read Homestuck", Karkat shooshpapping Gamzee is made even more poignant by adding "How Do I Live Without You" as the background music.



* [[http://im-gonna-fight-the-sun.tumblr.com/post/141779657556/batter-sempai-mommy-tears-hope "You're the new mayor!"]]
* [[http://sadstuck.tumblr.com/post/15530959686 The end of this comic about Vriska having just lost her arm and eye and Spidermom's reaction. Counts as TearJerker and NightmareFuel too.]]
* [[http://fangirlinginleatherboots.tumblr.com/post/142694565402/alternative-music-link-music-has-no-lyrics Listener: Relive the experience.]]
* This fan version of [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oyOEykaQoo "How Do I Live"]] to commemorate the conclusion of Homestuck.
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNEW52NxHiA This Lyricstuck]] of "Home". Just seeing all the joy that the kids experienceed despite everything that went wrong will bring a tear to your eye.
** It (art by paperseverywhere) is very much this, with an added touch of TearJerker.
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* Kanaya is [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005424 BACK.]] Clearly foreshadowed or not, if you didn't squee ([[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments and laugh]]) a little at this, YOU HAVE NO SOUL.

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* Kanaya is [[http://mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=005424 BACK.]] Clearly foreshadowed or not, if you didn't squee ([[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments and laugh]]) a little at this, YOU HAVE NO SOUL.]]
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* John returns to Roxy with the Ring Of Life, both of them looking sincerely happy after what they had been through. [[OfficialCouple And then they hold hands.]] The whole thing even looks like a kind of wordless proposal of sorts.

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* John returns to Roxy with the Ring Of Life, both of them looking sincerely happy after what they had been through. [[OfficialCouple [[ShipTease And then they hold hands.]] The whole thing even looks like a kind of wordless proposal of sorts.
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** Also with SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome - she [[TakingTheBullet takes a fucking]] ''[[ColonyDrop meteor]]'' for John.

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** Let's not forget, Bro slicing a fucking meteor in half just to buy Dave some more time, and sends his rocket board to rescue Dave from falling. Definitely counts as a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome as well. Good Bro. Best guardian.

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** Let's not forget, Bro slicing a fucking meteor in half just to buy Dave some more time, and sends his rocket board to rescue Dave from falling. Definitely counts as a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome as well. Good Bro. Best guardian.
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** Humorously summed up in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQrCeqij7bk this]] [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} video]]. [[Memes/{{Homestuck}} You're welcome]].

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** Humorously summed up in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQrCeqij7bk this]] [[Disney/{{Aladdin}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Aladdin}} video]]. [[Memes/{{Homestuck}} You're welcome]].
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** Also, Meenah learns the Pre-Scratch Trolls afterlife is just the same as when they lived. In response, she wants to puke [[JerkassFacade in a nice way though,]] slightly revealing Meenah's happy how things never really changed. It helps Latula agrees with Meenah here, with her wink. >;D

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** Also, Meenah learns the Pre-Scratch Trolls afterlife is just the same as when they lived. In response, she wants to puke [[JerkassFacade in (in a nice way though,]] though), slightly revealing Meenah's happy how things never really changed. It helps Latula agrees with Meenah here, with her wink. >;D



** What really makes this a truly heartwarming moment is the context building up to this. In the previous intermission, John had claimed not to remember much of Vriska, not even her name, and thinking he had been in the wrong for considering romantic possibilities during his adventure. Yet, upon meeting her, even though he never saw her in person, John ''instantly recognizes her by personality alone!'' He never forgot ''anything'' about her. He ''never'' thought any less of her. If anything, he was hiding bitterness behind a [[JerkassFacade façade of indifference]] that was threatening to [[BecomingTheMask take over]], just to suddenly fall the moment he’s with her again. If this doesn’t speak of her feelings for her, the way he keeps the ring from Tavros should make it pretty clear.

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** What really makes this a truly heartwarming moment is the context building up to this. In the previous intermission, John had claimed not to remember much of Vriska, not even her name, and thinking he had been in the wrong for considering romantic possibilities during his adventure. Yet, upon meeting her, even though he never saw her in person, John ''instantly recognizes her by personality alone!'' He never forgot ''anything'' about her. He ''never'' thought any less of her. If anything, he was hiding bitterness behind a [[JerkassFacade façade of indifference]] indifference that was threatening to [[BecomingTheMask take over]], just to suddenly fall the moment he’s with her again. If this doesn’t speak of her feelings for her, the way he keeps the ring from Tavros should make it pretty clear.

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