Headscratchers / Tropic Thunder

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  • If Four-Leaf faked the whole thing, how were two other books on the incident produced? Wouldn't the real survivors call him on it?
    • Not if they were a band of fakes. Or if he also made up that whole opening.
    • An in-universe documentary short seems to confirm this.
    • Then, that means that the real Lincoln Osiris had faked his book as well. Kirk was playing a dude who was a fake dude.
    • Actually, it seemed like Four-Leaf wasn't faking the story, but faking being Four-Leaf. I seem to remember him mentioning something about being a huge fan of the real Four-Leaf.
    • Also, how do made up people complain? Unless you were directly involved with the events how would you know if they were real or not? If they aren't made up the veterans aren't very likely to still be around and kicking. My own father was only 60 years old when he died due to complications from agent orange exposure from when he was in Vietnam, for example.
    • The script suggests that Four-Leaf had done it as a tribute to the actual Tropic thunder team, who had all died. (That script had him as a janitor in the Pentagon.)

  • How could Speedman win an Oscar for his performance ? Isn't "Tropic Blunder" a documentary ?
    • It's stated that he could still win it for used footage of the original Tropic Thunder... something like that on IMDB.
    • Also, it's entirely possible that Grossman used his position to "influence" the Academy.

    Dancing Jew 
  • Why, in a movie that brilliantly parodies Hollywood's handling of racial stereotypes and turns crude tropes like blackface, Uncle Tom Foolery and Stop Being Stereotypical into complex, incisive comedy, did they decide that "aging white Jew dances to hip-hop" was too hilarious an idea not to use?
    • Because it's Tom Cruise.
    • the humor comes from the fact that it's an awful joke, but they got Tom fucking Cruise for it. His character is immature and stupid and wouldn't be remotely funny if played straight. The genius of the casting was that TC can play the role completely straight and still add a tongue in cheek layer to the part for the sole reason of who he is
    • Other than the name "Grossman", Tom Cruise's character isn't overtly Jewish, it could just be no one considered the Unfortunate Implications of the name and anti-Semitic stereotypes. When you consider Ben Stiller's father is Jewish and he considers himself to be "half-Jewish" it appears unlikely it was an actual anti-Semitic statement.
    • "The kids aren't dressing up as Scorcher for Purim anymore." Hollywood is built on top of a bedrock composed of Jews making fun of themselves.
    • There is a huge difference between a white Jew dancing to hip-hop (which has not been a universally black medium for some time now) and Black face. One is someone enjoying art typically associated with another ethnicity (usually viewed as a good thing) and the other is outright mockery.

    Never Returned 
  • In Rain of Madness, the Mockumentary, it showed that the Tropic Thunder gang had never returned from Vietnam and yet we know for a fact that they did. I am confused.
    • Euhm Nick Nolte was lying and hiding in Canada for the duration of the Vietnam war. He then lied about his whereabouts and wrote a book about it. Some director read the book and tried to make a movie about it. What is confusing?

    Movie Deal 
  • According to opening monologue, ten men were sent to rescue Four Leaf, four return, three wrote books, two got them published and one got a movie deal. But the movie they are making is based on Four Leaf's book. How is that supposed to work, since he definitely wasn't sent to rescue himself, and the opening monologue clearly says that of the ten men sent on that mission, four returned, and three of THOSE four wrote books...(I know it hardly matters, considering Four Leaf is a fake, but it's still a headscratcher)
    • I'm not sure what's confusing there. Ten people went to rescue one man, that totaled eleven. Four of the eleven came back, one of those was Four Leaf. Three of the four wrote books, one of those was Four Leaf. One of the three got a movie deal, that was Four Leaf.
    • The problem is Four Leaf (or at the least the guy claiming to be him) was never in Vietnam and lied about his hands being blown up. The man was a janitor and he wrote Tropic Blunder.
    • The three people who wrote books were not necessarily part of the four men who returned. It just says that ten men were sent to rescue Four Leaf, four return, three wrote books and so on. Could be three completely different people.