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* FoeYay: FauxSymbolism: It's difficult to tell how much is gratuitous and how much is really symbolic given the themes and plot. In general, ''Xenosaga'' is much worse about it than the ShownTheirWork ''Xenogears'', and even ''Xenoblade''[[hottip:*:although that's because there's less of it there]]
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** The footstep sounds in III are also a common complaint.
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** The concept of the U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]

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** The concept of the U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An [[spoiler:An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]



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** Not as extreme, but for whatever reason, MOMO is ridiculously powerful in Xenosaga II. In the first dungeon, Jr, chaos, and Ziggy do around 50-100 damage. MOMO does close to 200 and never lets up as the game progresses.
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* ManipulativeBastard: Thsi game has plenty of them. [[spoiler: Kevin outdoes them all, however.]]

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* ManipulativeBastard: Thsi This game has plenty of them. [[spoiler: Kevin outdoes them all, however.]]
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* LesYay: Shion and KOS-MOS (it doesn't help that the latter is a RobotGirl with the combat capabilities of a battleship... though it [[YourMileageMayVary doesn't hurt it either]].)

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* LesYay: Shion and KOS-MOS (it doesn't help that the latter is a RobotGirl with the combat capabilities of a battleship... though it [[YourMileageMayVary doesn't hurt it either]].either.)
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** The concept of the CosmicHorror, U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]

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** The concept of the CosmicHorror, U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]
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* FetishFuelStationAttendant: Albedo, for those who like a WickedCultured EvilAlbino, a WhiteHairedPrettyBoy {{Bishonen}}, and an EvilGenius, who likes kidnapping and [[{{Lolicon}} harming/mind raping pre-teen looking girl robots]] [[{{Twincest}} and hitting on]] [[HoYay his brother]], [[FoeYay who is also his enemy]], [[DepravedBisexual who also]] [[{{Shotacon}} looks like he is 12 years old]], and later is a ManInWhite all rolled into one.

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* MoralEventHorizon: While it has been trampled to bits by the many villians of the series, the most obvious and earliest example takes place for the character Virgil. When you meet him in the first game, he hates Realians with a passion and has even ''eaten'' their flesh in the past. He crosses the Horizon when he decides, in order to protect himself from an oncoming swarm of Gnosis, to input the Override code into some nearby Realians and then ''self destructs them.''

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** A good chunk of Albedo's dialog, with ''Ma Belle Peche'' being to most notable.
* MoralEventHorizon: While it has been trampled to bits by the many villians villains of the series, the most obvious and earliest example takes place for the character Virgil. When you meet him in the first game, he hates Realians with a passion and has even ''eaten'' their flesh in the past. He crosses the Horizon when he decides, in order to protect himself from an oncoming swarm of Gnosis, to input the Override code into some nearby Realians and then ''self destructs them.''
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* CompleteMonster: there's no denying that Voyager and Dmitri Yuriev belong somewhere near the top of the list.

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** Citrine leads the raid on the ''Durandal'' that results in the murder of its entire crew.



* FanDisservice: Albedo plays EvilIsSexy to the hilt...usually for the benefit of [[{{Lolicon}} preteen-looking]] [[ArtificialHuman Realians]] and [[{{Twincest}} his own brother]], all while crossing one MoralEventHorizon after another. In a sillier example, in the latter two games, everyone, not just the more-or-less humans, gets an optional [[BeachEpisode swimsuit]]. Including [[HollywoodCyborg Ziggy]]. It's an unflattering Speedo and ridiculous man-bra of a rebreather harness. In purple. With swim fins. Less justifiably, some gamers, apparently fearful of {{WardrobeMalfunction}}s, would list Jin's fundoshi as well. Allen's 50's style single piece swimsuit could almost count, and there's chaos'...bulge in the first game, though YourMileageMayVary. He lost it in the subsequent games, thankfully.

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* EvilIsSexy: Well, sex''ier'' if you compare T-elos to KOS-MOS.
* FanDisservice: Albedo plays EvilIsSexy to the hilt...usually for the benefit of [[{{Lolicon}} preteen-looking]] [[ArtificialHuman Realians]] and [[{{Twincest}} his own brother]], all while crossing one MoralEventHorizon after another. In a sillier example, in the latter two games, everyone, not just the more-or-less humans, gets an optional [[BeachEpisode swimsuit]]. Including [[HollywoodCyborg Ziggy]]. It's an unflattering Speedo and ridiculous man-bra of a rebreather harness. In purple. With swim fins. Less justifiably, some gamers, apparently fearful of {{WardrobeMalfunction}}s, {{Wardrobe Malfunction}}s, would list Jin's fundoshi as well. Allen's 50's style single piece swimsuit could almost count, and there's chaos'...bulge in the first game, though YourMileageMayVary.game. He lost it in the subsequent games, thankfully.



---> "It's been far too long, Uzuki! This feeling...of ''exhilaration''!"



* FridgeBrilliance: Jr.'s best weapon in I was the Blood M9, which becomes his first weapon in III because there is no equipment changing in II.

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** Voyager and Ziggy.
---> "I wanted to spend my eternal life with you"
* FridgeBrilliance: FreudWasRight: [[spoiler: Albedo's main desire is to "reunite" with Jr. since they were originally conjoined twins.]]
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** At the beginning of Episode I, it's mentioned how Virgil has a condition stemming from the consumption of Realian Tissue. At the time, you're told this is treated like a kind of drug to some people, and Shion is horrified at the implications. [[spoiler:Later, you discover that the Realian Febronia donated some of her organs to him to save his life, and then suddenly everything clicks into place.]]



* HoYay: Albedo stuck his hand ''inside'' Rubedo for God's sake. ''And'' sniffed his hair. Crispin Freeman's voice acting helps, too.



* MemeticMutation: You will not be able to hang around Xenosaga forums or watch Xenosaga videos for very long without hearing "SHION. MY APPEARANCE IS DOWN 5%. I NEED TO BE CLEANED." You just won't.

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** Helmer's "[[SayMyName UUUUUUUUUUUU-DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO]]" line from ''Episode I'' has gotten a lot of this, particularly in [[LetsPlay LPs]].



* NightmareFuel: The infamous MindRape scene between [[spoiler: MOMO and Albedo]] definitely counts. Also, the 27 Series Asura Realians themselves count, but go over the top when [[spoiler: they kill Shion's parents right in front of her eyes when she was a child.]] And then there's the concept of the CosmicHorror, U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]

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** At the end of Episode III, chaos' consciousness resides within the dilapidated remains of Kos-Mos and is floating in space; considering that he has lived at least 7000 years already, he doesn't seem to mind that much]].
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* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The infamous MindRape scene between [[spoiler: MOMO and Albedo]] definitely counts. Also, the 27 Series Asura Realians themselves count, but go over the top when [[spoiler: they kill Shion's parents right in front of her eyes when she was a child.]] And then there's the concept of the CosmicHorror, U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]


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* NightmareFuel: The infamous MindRape scene between [[spoiler: MOMO and Albedo]] definitely counts. Also, the 27 Series Asura Realians themselves count, but go over the top when [[spoiler: they kill Shion's parents right in front of her eyes when she was a child.]] And then there's the concept of the CosmicHorror, U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]

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* BrokenBase: The fanbase is broken into 3 parts with each episode. The drama with Episode II's changes was so bad, the admin of the fansite Zenosaga.com (who was the biggest fansite at the time) would ban anyone on the forums if that person defended the game.



* ContestedSequel: ''Episode II'' to ''Episode I''. Also, VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} in general, in comaprison to VideoGame/{{Xenogears}}.

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* LoveMakesYouEvil: [[spoiler: Keven could be a good example. All of the things he does: Killing himself, helping destroy Old Miltia, destroying KOS-MOS, and mentally ruin Shion just to save her life from the same thing her mom died of. Before Shion, he was willing to do it to bring back his mom.]]
* MagnificentBastard: Albedo, easily.
* ManipulativeBastard: Thsi game has plenty of them. [[spoiler: Kevin outdoes them all, however.]]
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**Ep. II: '''Mystic powers, grant me a miracle!'''
* ScrappyMechanic: The Stock system in Episode II.
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* MemeticMutation: You will not be able to hang around Xenosaga forums or watch Xenosaga videos for very long without hearing "SHION. MY APPEARANCE IS DOWN 5%. I NEED TO BE CLEANED." You just won't.
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* ContestedSequel: ''Episode II'' to ''Episode I''. Also, {{Xenosaga}} in general, in comaprison to {{Xenogears}}.

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* CompleteMonster: YourMileageMayVary on how many of the villains qualify, but there's no denying that Voyager and Dmitri Yuriev belong somewhere near the top of the list.

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* YourMileageMayVary: See StoryToGameplayRatio. Also, the likability of the various characters and their voices.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Albedo is an unquestionably horrifying, sadistic, AxCrazy pedophile who enjoys terrorizing and murdering small robot girls - but he has [[{{Bishonen}} white hair]], so he's probably just misunderstood. May also count as EvillyAffable; he takes AxCrazy and sadomasochism to new heights but ''god'', he does it with such [[LargeHam hamminess]].

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Albedo is an unquestionably horrifying, sadistic, AxCrazy pedophile who enjoys terrorizing and murdering small robot girls - but he has [[{{Bishonen}} white hair]], so he's probably just misunderstood. May also count as EvillyAffable; FauxAffablyEvil; he takes AxCrazy and sadomasochism to new heights but ''god'', he does it with such [[LargeHam hamminess]].
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** To be fair, Ziggy only has that hideous eyesore of a swimsuit in the third game. His second game's swimsuit is much better, looking for the most part like his normal outfit but green and he has a snorkeling mask.
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* MemeticMolester: Albedo is [[{{Understatement}} a little]] ''too'' fond with MOMO and Jr.

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* CatharsisFactor: If Shion's behavior through the series is a source of frustration to you, [[spoiler:you get the chance to work your issues out on her face late in the third game. Enjoy.]]


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* {{HSQ}}: Off the charts in the scene where [[spoiler:Shion finds out that she made contact with the Zohar and summoned the Gnosis, leading to her HeroicBSOD]].
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* MissedMomentofAwesome: Several potentially awesome scenes were removed from the scripts of all three games, some being added in later, but not when they were originally supposed to be; and some were completely forgotten about. The most obvious example being the fight between Jin and Margulis, which was in the trailer for the original game but ended up being in Episode II. Another being a potential plot where KOS-MOS eventually got strong enough weapons to destroy a planet, which Shion was supposed to prevent. Also, chaos, the [[spoiler: guy with the ability to destroy the universe, sits around and hangs in the background doing...well, not much. Just shopping and having cryptic conversations most of the time.]]
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* FetishFuelStationAttendant: Albedo, for those who like a WickedCultured EvilAlbino, a WhiteHairedPrettyBoy {{Bishonen}}, and an EvilGenius, who likes kidnapping and [[{{Lolicon}} harming/mind raping pre-teen looking girl robots]] [[{{Twincest}} and]] [[IncestYay hitting on]] [[HoYay his brother]], [[FoeYay who is also his enemy]], [[DepravedBisexual who also]] [[{{Shotacon}} looks like he is 12 years old]], and later is a ManInWhite all rolled into one.

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* FridgeBrilliance: Jr.'s best weapon in I was the Blood M9, which becomes his first weapon in III because there is no equipment changing in II.
** Why is Wilhelm such a good Chessmaster? [[spoiler:Because he's already successfully implemented his cosmic reset plan at least ten and possibly hundreds of times. This means that he either knows what's going to happen (if events repeat closely/exactly) or he knows how to manipulate people to get the correct outcome (through millions of years of accumulated BatmanGambit-ing experience)]].
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** Xenosaga III tends to be filled with these. Jr. and Shion can essentially become invincible for a couple of turns via Phantom Fly, a Master Skill that allows them to evade essentially every attack in the game. While it is normally tempered by an absurdly high EP cost, there's an accessory that you can get with a relatively easy sidequest near the end of the game that reduces SP cost to 1. Add the two together, and you get either Jr. who can support with the best of them, or Shion, who can inflict reasonable damage, break, and heal.

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** Xenosaga III tends to be filled with these. Jr. and Shion can essentially become invincible for a couple of turns via Phantom Fly, a Master Skill that allows them to evade essentially every attack in the game. While it is normally tempered by an absurdly high EP cost, there's an accessory that you can get with a relatively easy sidequest near the end of the game that reduces SP cost to 1. Add the two together, and you get either Jr. who can support with the best of them, or Shion, who can inflict reasonable damage, break, and heal. And are invincible.
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** Xenosaga III tends to be filled with these. Jr. and Shion can essentially become invincible for a couple of turns via Phantom Fly, a Master Skill that allows them to evade essentially every attack in the game. While it is normally tempered by an absurdly high EP cost, there's an accessory that you can get with a relatively easy sidequest near the end of the game that reduces SP cost to 1. Add the two together, and you get either Jr. who can support with the best of them, or Shion, who can inflict reasonable damage, break, and heal.
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* AdaptationDecay / [[AdaptationDistillation Distillation]]: ''[[AnimatedAdaptation Xenosaga: The Animation]]'' simultaneously improved upon ''and'' denigrated its source material. While Jin and Pellegri's history was fleshed out two whole years before their full story was explored in ''Episode III'', Cherenkov's entire storyline was cut out and Cherenkov himself literally [[DroppedABridgeOnHim had a Gnosis dropped on him]] and has Virgil take his place [[spoiler:only to die anyway]]. Then again, what do you expect when you try to condense over 30 hours of already dense plot (plus elements from the first 3 hours of the second game) into 6 hours?
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* MemeticMolester: Albedo is [[{{Understatement}} a little]] ''too'' fond with MOMO and Jr.


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** Yuriev crosses it irrevocably when he [[spoiler:uses his appearance as Gaignun to get close to Mary - and shoot her in the gut.]]
*** He crosses it again when we find out he ordered Nigredo to [[spoiler: kill all the [=URTVs=] who survived the upcoming Miltian conflict, ''especially'' URTV 666 (Rubedo, aka Jr.) because his Red Dragon mode posed a threat to Dmitri. Not to mention him planning to send all the [=URTVs=] except Nigredo into the conflict in the first place knowing that it was extremely likely to cause a reaction that would incinerate the ''entire surface'' of the planet (killing all of his URTV children as well as every living thing on the planet) and was callously planning to use that to further his own political position.]]
*** [[spoiler:Better: his reaction to being questioned that it was worth it to destroy Miltia if it got rid of U-DO? Yes.]]
*** [[spoiler:And let's not forget him ordering the murder of every man, woman, child, and realian on the Durandel save the four people who were useful to him.]]


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* StoicWoobie: Jin truly has a sucktacular life, on par with Shion's but keeps it all to himself. Implied to be because he doesn't want to 'burden' Shion with his own problems, as he feels partly responsible for not being able to help Shion with hers.


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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Hinted at by WordOfGod. BigBad [[spoiler:Wilhelm]]'s plot involves [[spoiler:resetting time over and over again to avoid the universe's eventual destruction.]] The characters argue that [[spoiler:endlessly repeating the same thing simply for the sake of existence is meaningless, and put a stop to it.]] At this point [[spoiler:Wilhelm]] may seem like a WellIntentionedExtremist at best and a CompleteMonster at worst (he's directly or indirectly responsible for pretty much everything that happens in the series, including each character's [[{{BreakTheCutie}} individual traumas]]), but the post-game database suggests that [[spoiler:the party's rejection of his plan was actually what he wanted, and that by continually resetting the universe he was actually "training" the collective consciousness of humanity to move on and find a way to avoid the universe's destruction, putting him in a much more positive light.]]
* CompleteMonster: YourMileageMayVary on how many of the villains qualify, but there's no denying that Voyager and Dmitri Yuriev belong somewhere near the top of the list.
* ContestedSequel: ''Episode II'' to ''Episode I''. Also, {{Xenosaga}} in general, in comaprison to {{Xenogears}}.



* EnsembleDarkhorse: Orgulla, a schizophrenic [[TheFundamentalist fundamentalist]] [[NinjaPirateRobotZombie cyborg]] boss from ''Episode II'' that is never heard from again after the fight with her.



* GeniusBonus: There's a few of them littered throughout the trilogy, the most obvious being that Sellers is a not-so-subtle CaptainErsatz of DrStrangelove, who was played by Peter '''Sellers'''.



* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The infamous MindRape scene between [[spoiler: MOMO and Albedo]] definitely counts. Also, the 27 Series Asura Realians themselves count, but go over the top when [[spoiler: they kill Shion's parents right in front of her eyes when she was a child.]] And then there's the concept of the CosmicHorror, U-Do, itself: [[spoiler: An alien being (he's actually God, sent into the Heroes' realm as a child and later, a flying Ark) that spies on the whole of humanity, even though he does it for scientific reasons more than anything.]]
* HypeAversion: The original was billed as the ''Final Fantasy X killer'' and might have been as such if such a big deal wasn't made about it.



* {{Narm}}:
** The spatial anomaly that strikes terror into the hearts of people across the galaxy, U-DO. Rhymes with "Poodoo". Even less scary when you get [[HeyItsThatVoice a notably deep-voiced character]] to drawl the name for about five seconds in the grimmest tone imaginable.
** "My name is RICHARD! Let that name burn into your mind as you die!"
** Albedo's made some non-sequitur-y non-sequiturs, but "Didn't [=McCartney=] say that, too? ''Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony.''" takes the cake.
** And then there's the Elsa, which, when put on "OVERBOOST" (Which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin in that it makes you go faster), it takes the form of the Knight of the Swan, you know, from Wagner, the composer. Justified in that the Elsa is a [[IncrediblyLamePun Lohengrin]] Class cruiser.
** Hakox may be the best example in the series. [[NarmCharm Horribly addicting just to]] [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential let your characters fall and listen to their incredulous screams over and over again.]]
** [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] on this one, but when Allen makes his speech to Shion to stop her [[spoiler:[[FaceHeelTurn Face Heel Turn]]]] in Episode III. It's supposed to be incredibly [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming heartwarming]]...up until you notice how blatant it is that the voice-acting doesn't match up to the lip movements AT ALL when it shows his face up close.

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** The spatial anomaly that strikes terror into the hearts of people across the galaxy, U-DO. Rhymes with "Poodoo". Even less scary when you get [[HeyItsThatVoice a notably deep-voiced character]] to drawl the name for about five seconds in the grimmest tone imaginable.
** "My name is RICHARD! Let that name burn into your mind as you die!"
** Albedo's made some non-sequitur-y non-sequiturs, but "Didn't [=McCartney=] say that, too? ''Ebony and ivory live together in perfect harmony.''" takes the cake.
** And then there's the Elsa, which, when put on "OVERBOOST" (Which is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin in that it makes you go faster), it takes the form of the Knight of the Swan, you know, from Wagner, the composer. Justified in that the Elsa is a [[IncrediblyLamePun Lohengrin]] Class cruiser.
** Hakox may be the best example in the series. [[NarmCharm Horribly addicting just to]] [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential let your characters fall and listen to their incredulous screams over and over again.]]
** [[YourMileageMayVary YMMV]] on this one, but when Allen makes his speech to Shion to stop her [[spoiler:[[FaceHeelTurn Face Heel Turn]]]] in
MostAnnoyingSound: Episode III. It's supposed to be incredibly [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming heartwarming]]...up until III: Can you notice how blatant it is that the voice-acting doesn't match up to the lip movements AT ALL people say anything ''besides'' "Ether Drive!?" Especially annoying considering each had their own saying when it shows his face up close.using spells and special attacks in I and II.



* TheUntwist: The identities of the Red and White Testaments, [[spoiler:Kevin and Albedo]], are foreshadowed with numerous heavy-handed hints and are both blindingly obvious by the end of ''Episode II''. To smash the point home, their ''Episode III'' character art shows them both unmasked, obliterating any residual shock that would have come from TheReveal in the game itself.




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* HellIsThatNoise: Albedo's laugh.

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