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* CompleteMonster: If Kartikeya gleefully killing off [[spoiler: Greg's wife and son]] wasn't bad enough, he admits later that he's killed so many people he can't even remember them all. Even the other Sentinels think he's creepy.
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* CompleteMonster: If Kartikeya gleefully killing off [[spoiler: Although Karitkeya initially appears to be an average PsychoForHire, it's revealed later via flasbacks that he [[spoiler:shot Greg's 5-year-old son and his wife and son]] wasn't bad enough, he admits later that he's killed so many people he can't even remember them all. Even the for trying to protect Greg for no real reason other Sentinels think he's creepy.than it was a fun way to play with his new ARM. His reason for attacking Greg and then letting him live after murdering his family? Again, just for the fun of it.]]
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* FreudWasRight: The Lucadia summon is awfully vore-tastic.
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* FreudWasRight: The Lucadia summon is awfully vore-tastic.[[SwallowedWhole vore-tastic]].
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* MrFanservice: Not only is Greg a HotDad, some of his alternate costumes remove his shirt. One the villains' side, there's Kartikeya, who has an OverlyLongTongue and is always wearing what looks like bondage gear...if you're not {{Squick}}ed out by him instead.
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* MrFanservice: Not only is Greg a HotDad, HotDad with a "sexy cowboy" theme going on, some of his alternate costumes [[WalkingShirtlessScene remove his shirt.shirt entirely]]. One the villains' side, there's Kartikeya, who has an OverlyLongTongue and is always wearing what looks like bondage gear...if you're not {{Squick}}ed out by him instead.
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** Rebecca takes a lot of heat from the fandom, often being called "bitchy" for her temper, "whiny" for fawning over Dean but [[CanNotSpitItOut not being brave enough to tell him]], and "annoying" for writing major events down in her {{Diary}}. Still, others just hate her [[DieForOurShip for being in Avril's way]].
** Dean is a close second, as many fans find his unwavering optimism to mean that he's out of touch with reality...or that he's [[WhatAnIdiot just plain dumb]].
** Rebecca takes a lot of heat from the fandom, often being called "bitchy" for her temper, "whiny" for fawning over Dean but [[CanNotSpitItOut not being brave enough to tell him]], and "annoying" for writing major events down in her {{Diary}}. Still, others just hate her [[DieForOurShip for being in Avril's way]].
** Dean is a close second, as many fans find his unwavering optimism to mean that he's out of touch with reality...or that he's [[WhatAnIdiot just plain dumb]].
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: In the Desecrated Shrine, the gang suddenly come across an abandoned porn magazine that just happens to be there. HilarityEnsues, and is never mentioned again. Not even when you find the Adult Mag BonusBoss, which this was probably foreshadowing.
* CompleteMonster: If Kartikeya gleefully killing off [[spoiler: Greg's wife and son]] wasn't bad enough, he admits later that he's killed so many people he can't even remember them all. Even the other Sentinels think he's creepy.
* FreudWasRight: The Lucadia summon is awfully vore-tastic.
* CompleteMonster: If Kartikeya gleefully killing off [[spoiler: Greg's wife and son]] wasn't bad enough, he admits later that he's killed so many people he can't even remember them all. Even the other Sentinels think he's creepy.
* FreudWasRight: The Lucadia summon is awfully vore-tastic.
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* GenderInvertedTrope: The MysteriousWaif gains the highest Strength bonus, and TheBigGuy gets the biggest Magic bonus.
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* HamAndCheese: In-universe example - Nightburn's wacky Golem Hunter's Guild commercial.
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* ThatOneBoss: Several, but the Four Sentinels are among the most difficult each having an attack that deals insane amount of damage being downright OneHitKill. The fact they have means to counter their own weaknesses also doesn't help either.
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* ThatOneBoss: Several, but the Four Sentinels are among the most difficult each having an attack that deals insane amount of damage being downright OneHitKill. The fact they have means to counter their own weaknesses also doesn't help either. And to make matters worse, you immediately have to fight them again as a DuelBoss.
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** TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There's also the handling of [[spoiler: the Hatred itself, which could have made for a horrifying BiggerBad, BiggerBad or TheCorruption, seeing as how it's pretty much ''[[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]] with a mind!'' Sadly, it was only referenced a few times mid-game and is not seen again until the end.]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: After Kartikeya shoots himself and leaves a huge hole in his own gut, there's a severe lack of {{Gorn}} where {{Gorn}} ought to be. [[{{Squick}} But do we really wanna know why this guy seems to lack organs?]] ]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: After Kartikeya shoots himself and leaves a huge hole in his own gut, there's a severe lack of {{Gorn}} where {{Gorn}} ought to be. [[{{Squick}} But do we really wanna know why this guy seems to lack organs?]] ]]organs?]]]]
* GeniusBonus: There's an elephant BonusBoss called "Chaugnar Faugn." It's actually a reference to an obscure EldritchAbomination from the Franchise/CthulhuMythos.
* GeniusBonus: There's an elephant BonusBoss called "Chaugnar Faugn." It's actually a reference to an obscure EldritchAbomination from the Franchise/CthulhuMythos.
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** TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter: There's also the handling of [[spoiler: the Hatred itself, which could have made for a horrifying BiggerBad, seeing as how it's pretty much ''[[VideoGame/EarthBound Giygas]] with a mind!'' Sadly, it was only referenced a few times mid-game and is not seen again until the end.]]
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: One of the best ''WildArms'' games by far, but notable is the improvement of the HEX-system. Rather than having to choose, all characters can both move ''and'' perform an action during their turn (In ''WildArms4,'' only [[GameBreaker Raquel]] could do this). Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with Rebecca and Greg being able to shoot anything in a straight line and Carol being able to shoot any HEX she wants.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: One of the best ''WildArms'' ''Franchise/WildArms'' games by far, but notable is the improvement of the HEX-system. Rather than having to choose, all characters can both move ''and'' perform an action during their turn (In ''WildArms4,'' ''VideoGame/WildArms4,'' only [[GameBreaker Raquel]] could do this). Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with Rebecca and Greg being able to shoot anything in a straight line and Carol being able to shoot any HEX she wants.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: One of the best WildArms games by far, but notable is the improvement of the HEX-system. Rather than having to choose, all characters can both move ''and'' perform an action during their turn (In WildArms4, only [[GameBreaker Raquel]] could do this). Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with Rebecca and Greg being able to shoot anything in a straight line and Carol being able to shoot any HEX she wants.
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* NightmareFuel: [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oLacupZpRs The use of the Darkness Tear]].
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: One of the bestWildArms ''WildArms'' games by far, but notable is the improvement of the HEX-system. Rather than having to choose, all characters can both move ''and'' perform an action during their turn (In WildArms4, ''WildArms4,'' only [[GameBreaker Raquel]] could do this). Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with Rebecca and Greg being able to shoot anything in a straight line and Carol being able to shoot any HEX she wants.
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* CerebusSyndrome: The light and funny tussle over a mirror early in the game stands in stark contrast to the [[spoiler: hundreds of people who Volsung immolates alive near the end.]]
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** More specifically, rather than having to choose, all characters can both move ''and'' perform an action during their turn (In 4, only [[GameBreaker Raquel]] could do this). Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with two being able to shoot anything in a straight line and one who can shoot any hex she wants.
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* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: One of the best WildArms games by far, but notable is the Hex-system. While confounding and difficult in WildArms4, 5 fixes improvement of the problems.
** More specifically, ratherHEX-system. Rather than having to choose, all characters can both move ''and'' perform an action during their turn (In 4, WildArms4, only [[GameBreaker Raquel]] could do this). Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with two Rebecca and Greg being able to shoot anything in a straight line and one who can Carol being able to shoot any hex HEX she wants.
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** More specifically, rather than having to choose, all characters can both move and ''and'' perform an action during their turn, not just [[GameBreaker Raquel]]. Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with two being able to shoot anything in a straight line and one who can shoot any hex she wants.
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** More specifically, all characters can move and perform an action during their turn, not just [[GameBreaker Raquel]]. Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with two being able to shoot anything in a straight line and one who can shoot any hex she wants.
** More specifically, all characters can move and perform an action during their turn, not just [[GameBreaker Raquel]]. Experience is also evened out and abundant. In addition, half of the characters don't have to be next to their targets to attack, with two being able to shoot anything in a straight line and one who can shoot any hex she wants.
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* CerberusSyndrome: The light and funny tussle over a mirror early in the game stands in stark contrast to the [[spoiler: hundreds of people who Volsung immolates alive near the end.]]
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* CerberusSyndrome: CerebusSyndrome: The light and funny tussle over a mirror early in the game stands in stark contrast to the [[spoiler: hundreds of people who Volsung immolates alive near the end.]]
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: General consensus is that the ending is less interesting than it could have been on several accounts: [[spoiler:explaining Avril's amnesia with "It was a StableTimeLoop" and Volsung's villainy with "He was BrainwashedAndCrazy".]] Many were hoping for more intricate, complex answers to those questions, rather than [[spoiler:explanations that can literally be summed up in one trope]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: General consensus is that the ending is less interesting than it could have been on several accounts: [[spoiler:explaining Avril's amnesia with "It was a StableTimeLoop" and Volsung's villainy with "He was BrainwashedAndCrazy".]] [[DemonicPossession possessed]]."]] Many were hoping for more intricate, complex answers to those questions, rather than [[spoiler:explanations that can literally be summed up in one trope]].
** There's also [[spoiler: the Hatred itself, which could have made for a horrifying BiggerBad, seeing as how it's pretty much ''[[VideoGame/{{EarthBound}} Giygas]] with a mind!'' Sadly, it was only referenced a few times mid-game and is not seen again until the end.]]
** There's also [[spoiler: the Hatred itself, which could have made for a horrifying BiggerBad, seeing as how it's pretty much ''[[VideoGame/{{EarthBound}} Giygas]] with a mind!'' Sadly, it was only referenced a few times mid-game and is not seen again until the end.]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: After Kartikeya shoots himself and leaves a huge hole in his own gut, there's a severe lack of {{Gorn}} where {{Gorn}} ought to be. [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow But do we really wanna know why this guy seems to lack organs?]] ]]
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* FridgeHorror: [[spoiler: After Kartikeya shoots himself and leaves a huge hole in his own gut, there's a severe lack of {{Gorn}} where {{Gorn}} ought to be. [[TheseAreThingsManWasNotMeantToKnow [[{{Squick}} But do we really wanna know why this guy seems to lack organs?]] ]]]]
* HamAndCheese: In-universe example - Nightburn's wacky Golem Hunter's Guild commercial.
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* BittersweetEnding: Although the world is saved and Veruni and humans will now live in peace, [[spoiler: Avril is stuck in an infinte StableTimeLoop for all of eternity, never to be with Dean except for the brief period during the game.]]
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Several during the series of final boss battles: Most especially [[spoiler:Dean's initial assault with the monowheel and Asgard getting his other arm back.]]
** Rebecca and Carol's combo LimitBreak where Rebecca surfs on a giant freakin' missile and unleashes all of her ammo before jumping off!
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Pretty much all of the soundtrack.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXLr31mxwI At the Frozen Depths of the Heart]], [[spoiler:the Ice Queen Avril.]] battle theme.
** The TF Towers:
*** TF System Tower M: [[spoiler:Persephone's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS19rrW3HS8&feature=related A Muzzle Dancing in Hatred]].
*** TF System Tower G: [[spoiler:Fereydoon's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585Gc_xUi8k&feature=related With Faith and the Way of Justice]].
*** TF System Tower S: [[spoiler:Elvis' Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zypjm8xTi8I If We Act Like Scholars]].
*** TF System Tower F: [[spoiler:Kartikeya's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhcTOGc_Tic The Resurrected Left Arm That Brings Death]].
** Rebecca and Carol's combo LimitBreak where Rebecca surfs on a giant freakin' missile and unleashes all of her ammo before jumping off!
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Pretty much all of the soundtrack.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXLr31mxwI At the Frozen Depths of the Heart]], [[spoiler:the Ice Queen Avril.]] battle theme.
** The TF Towers:
*** TF System Tower M: [[spoiler:Persephone's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS19rrW3HS8&feature=related A Muzzle Dancing in Hatred]].
*** TF System Tower G: [[spoiler:Fereydoon's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585Gc_xUi8k&feature=related With Faith and the Way of Justice]].
*** TF System Tower S: [[spoiler:Elvis' Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zypjm8xTi8I If We Act Like Scholars]].
*** TF System Tower F: [[spoiler:Kartikeya's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhcTOGc_Tic The Resurrected Left Arm That Brings Death]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: general consensus is that the ending is less interesting than it could have been on several accounts: [[spoiler:explaining Avril's amnesia with "It was a StableTimeLoop" and Volsung's villainy with "He was BrainwashedAndCrazy".]] Many were hoping for more intricate, complex answers to those questions, rather than [[spoiler:explanations that can literally be summed up in one trope]].
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: general General consensus is that the ending is less interesting than it could have been on several accounts: [[spoiler:explaining Avril's amnesia with "It was a StableTimeLoop" and Volsung's villainy with "He was BrainwashedAndCrazy".]] Many were hoping for more intricate, complex answers to those questions, rather than [[spoiler:explanations that can literally be summed up in one trope]].
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Pretty much all of the soundtrack, but definitely soundtrack.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXLr31mxwI At theboss battle theme against Frozen Depths of the Heart]], [[spoiler:the Ice Queen.]]Queen Avril.]] battle theme.
** The TF Towers:
*** TF System Tower M: [[spoiler:Persephone's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS19rrW3HS8&feature=related A Muzzle Dancing in Hatred]].
*** TF System Tower G: [[spoiler:Fereydoon's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585Gc_xUi8k&feature=related With Faith and the Way of Justice]].
*** TF System Tower S: [[spoiler:Elvis' Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zypjm8xTi8I If We Act Like Scholars]].
*** TF System Tower F: [[spoiler:Kartikeya's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhcTOGc_Tic The Resurrected Left Arm That Brings Death]].
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXLr31mxwI At the
** The TF Towers:
*** TF System Tower M: [[spoiler:Persephone's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gS19rrW3HS8&feature=related A Muzzle Dancing in Hatred]].
*** TF System Tower G: [[spoiler:Fereydoon's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=585Gc_xUi8k&feature=related With Faith and the Way of Justice]].
*** TF System Tower S: [[spoiler:Elvis' Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zypjm8xTi8I If We Act Like Scholars]].
*** TF System Tower F: [[spoiler:Kartikeya's Tower]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhcTOGc_Tic The Resurrected Left Arm That Brings Death]].
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* ThatOneBoss: Several, but the Four Sentinels are among the most difficult each having an attack that deals insane amount of damage being downright OneHitKill. The fact they have means to counter their own weaknesses also doesn't help either.
* ThatOneBoss: Several, but the Four Sentinels are among the most difficult each having an attack that deals insane amount of damage being downright OneHitKill. The fact they have means to counter their own weaknesses also doesn't help either.
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* {{Narm}}: Dean's battle cries in cutscenes are ''hilariously'' awful.
