History YMMV / Troy

** Hector showing his wife Andromache the escape tunnels beneath the city in case Troy is sacked and Hector dies. Made worse by the fact that some versions of the myth [[FateWorseThanDeath do not end well for Andromache.]]

* CommonKnowledge: the Trojan horse, Achilles' death, and fall of Troy were not mentioned in ''Literature/TheIliad''.

** That's because of ValuesDissonance. What to us might seem like an arrogant jerkass, to the Greeks was simply a hero who took great care of his dignity - as he should.

** A major plot point is Achilles getting sick of being at Agamemnon's beck and call. Which happens every week in the first season of ''DanballSenki''.
* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. Film/{{Beowulf}} fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].

** Priam asking for his Hector's body back especially this...

* MoralEventHorizon: Practically every Greek solider, save Achilles, crosses it when they sack Troy in the Director's Cut.

** NarmCharm: This is primarily for the sake of balance but the film does have a kind of RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves silliness to it.

** NarmCharm: This is primarily for the sake of balance but the film does have a kind of RobinHoodPrinceOfTheives silliness to it.

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome
** Achilles vs. Hector.
** Achilles finally getting shot.
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: Priam's speech.

** That's because of Values Dissonance. What to us might seem like an arrogant jerkass, to the Greeks was simply a hero who took great care of his dignity - as he should.
*** That's pretty much the ValuesDissonance today. Greek Heroes would generally qualify as amoral antiheroes, if not full-blown SociopathicHero.

* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or ...?" ([[ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/{{Superman}}/[[ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. Film/{{Beowulf}} fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length]]: ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].

--->'''Priam:''' You're still my enemy tonight. But even enemies can show respect.

* {{Hypocrite}}: In the book, Achilles is a self-centered hot-tempered JerkAss, so his fury at Hector for Patroclus' death is completely in character. In the movie, he is established as a calm, collected, TheFatalist PunchClockVillain.....at least up until Patroclus dies, at which he becomes furious at Hector just like in the book, except this time it goes completely against his prior characterization.
** Not necessarily. Patroklos was essentially Achilles' student as well as his cousin, if their scene together at the beginning of the movie is anything to go off of. The fact that, in addition to this, Hector cut Patroklos down after discovering that he was posing as Achilles seemed to be his real issue.

** Menelaus getting impaled.
*** YMMV. Menelaus was a man rightfully insulted and in his times perfectly within his rights to kill Paris. Paris himself being the one that agreed to a battle to the death. It could be said to be yet another moment where Hector dishonors himself and risks his people for his brother, and there's nothing awesome about it.

** (Achilles vs. Hector).

* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming (Priam's speech)

*** That's pretty much the ValuesDissonance today. Greek Heroes would generally qualify as amoral antiheroes, if not fullblown HeroicSociopath.

* BaseBreaker:
** Paris
** Achilles
** Briseis

* CompleteMonster: Menelaus. He's probably the only character who has no redeeming qualities. He was already making out with other women before he found out about Helen+Paris, which makes him a {{hypocrite}} when he wants revenge against both of them, stating that he wants to [[DisproportionateRetribution kill her with his own two hands]] when he gets her back. Finally, when Paris tries to make a deal with Agamemnon to not attack Troy if he fights Menelaus alone, Menelaus secretly [[MoralEventHorizon suggests Agamemnon to just break the deal if/when he kills Paris]].

* TheScrappy: Paris, for the most part.
** Wasn't the original Paris already CreatorsPet?
** In the original (with gods and all), Helen wasn't even in love with him: it was all Aphrodite's doing. And the "die for her" aspect certainly didn't exist, making him an even bigger douchebag than in the film.

* CompleteMonster: Menelaus. He's probably the only character who has no redeeming qualities. He was already making out with other women before he found out about Helen+Paris, which makes him a {{hypocrite}} when he wants revenge against both of them, stating that he wants to [[FridgeHorror kill her with his own two hands]] when he gets her back. Finally, when Paris tries to make a deal with Agamemnon to not attack Troy if he fights Menelaus alone, Menelaus secretly [[MoralEventHorizon suggests Agamemnon to just break the deal if/when he kills Paris]].

** Achilles [[KarmicDeath finally getting shot]].

* KarmaHoudini: Achilles. He causes the pain and misery of many innocent people, including unarmed priests, he never does anything to pay for it, and he doesn't gets much pain or misery in return. It doesn't help that his death is rather peaceful.

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome (Achilles vs. Hector).

* KarmaHoudini: Achilles. He causes the pain and misery of many people, never does anything to pay for it, and he doesn't gets much pain and misery in return. It doesn't help that his death is rather peaceful.

* MostlyNarmless: Achilles' captive Briseis wakes him up with a [[SwordOverHead sharp knife]] to the throat. After imploring her to "[[KillMeNowOrForeverStayYourHand do it]]" ''("[[TheFatalist we all die some time]]")'' he grabs her and has his way with her, prompting her to drop the knife slowly out of her hand. As one reviewer said: ''"[[StupidSexyFlanders Only Brad Pitt]] could do this (old-style Hollywood) scene and not have the audience burst into laughter."''

** Wasn't the original Paris already TheWesley?

* MostlyNarmless: Achilles' captive Briseis wakes him up with a [[SwordOverHead sharp knife]] to the throat. After imploring her to "[[KillMeNowOrForeverStayYourHand do it]]" ''("[[TheFatalist we all die some time]]")'' he grabs her and [[IfYouKnowWhatIMean has his way with her]], prompting her to drop the knife slowly out of her hand. As one reviewer said: ''"[[StupidSexyFlanders Only Brad Pitt]] could do this (old-style Hollywood) scene and not have the audience burst into laughter."''

* CompletelyMissingThePoint: most of the people who said they hated Orlando Bloom's performance cited him playing Paris as a weaselly little wimp as the reason. Others have pointed out that if they hated the character so much for that reason, then Bloom did his job adequately, as Paris that's what Paris ''was.''
** Except for some ungodly reason they allowed that bastard seem like a good guy and worst of all he survives this whole conflict that he fucking started, is there no justice in this world!