History YMMV / Troy

29th Dec '16 5:16:32 PM fearlessnikki
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** The film drops the Greek Gods from the plot, but employs MaybeMagicMaybeMundane. Achilles says that he's seen them personally. Julie Christie appears as Thetis - who was a sea goddess - and spends the entirety of her scene in the water, which seems to be a hint to her being a goddess. Achilles defaces the statue of Apollo and [[spoiler: eventually loses his cousin, and dies just as he's about to be with the woman he loves]]. So the Gods very well could be manipulating events offscreen.
** Helen nearly giving herself up to the Greeks after the first day of battles. Does she think it will help, and wants to prevent further bloodshed on her account? Or does she know it's hopeless, and just wants to be punished in some way to relieve her guilt?



* BestKnownForTheFanservice: A variation. A large amount of press for the film consisted of women's magazines {{Squee}}ing over "Brad Pitt in a skirt!"

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: BestKnownForTheFanservice:
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A variation. A large amount of press for the film consisted of women's magazines {{Squee}}ing over "Brad Pitt in a skirt!"skirt!"
** Orlando Bloom and Eric Bana are also on {{Fanservice}} duty for nearly three hours, both getting plenty of {{Shirtless Scene}}s and their regular clothes showing plenty of skin too.
** And for the reverse, Diane Kruger walks around with beautiful golden RapunzelHair, occasionally nude (and you see much more in the extended cut) and the camera is all too happy to show off her beauty. She was immediately included on People magazine's "50 Most Beautiful People in the World" list that year - at Number 44.



* FridgeLogic: Are the gods still in there manipulating events, even though they're not seen?



** The film goes to great, almost absurd lengths to assure the audience that Achilles is straight and that his ''cousin'' and surrogate little brother figure Patroclus is probably straight (or at least ambiguously straight or whatever).
** Patroclus's 'anguished' rant about why they should stay in the war. Mostly because Garrett Hedlund is the only one in the cast NotBotheringWithTheAccent and the resulting speech sounds ridiculous with his Minnesota accent.

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** The film goes to great, almost absurd lengths to assure the audience that Achilles is straight and that his ''cousin'' and surrogate little brother figure Patroclus is probably straight (or at least ambiguously straight or whatever).straight.
** Patroclus's 'anguished' rant about why they should stay in the war. Mostly because Garrett Hedlund is the only one in the cast NotBotheringWithTheAccent NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent and the resulting speech sounds ridiculous with his Minnesota accent.



* TheWoobie: Andromache who must watch [[spoiler: as her husband is killed and their baby left fatherless]]. Things don't end well for her in the original mythology either.

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* TheWoobie: TheWoobie:
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Andromache who must watch [[spoiler: as her husband is killed and their baby left fatherless]]. Things don't end well for her in the original mythology either.either.
** Despite the mess she causes, Helen is still fully aware of everyone she's condemned to death. She even tries to give herself up to the Greeks, despite knowing it will do nothing, all because of her guilt. What's more is that she was trapped in an unhappy marriage since her teenage years. Paris was the one thing that brought her happiness, and because of it a war got started.
26th Oct '16 4:32:52 PM nombretomado
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* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. ''Film/{{Beowulf 2007}}'' fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].

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* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. ''Film/{{Beowulf ''WesternAnimation/{{Beowulf 2007}}'' fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].
14th Oct '16 11:43:55 AM CumbersomeTercel
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** Odysseus as well of course, given that he's played by Sean Bean, in one of the roles where he's not the villain and doesn't die.
* EstrogenBrigade: Although this is a RatedMForManly action movie, it has a large amount of female fans. Brad Pitt, Eric Bana and Orlando Bloom all have {{Shirtless Scene}}s - Pitt especially spending the whole movie in very skimpy armour.

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** Odysseus as well of course, given that he's played by Sean Bean, Creator/SeanBean, in one of the roles where he's not the villain and doesn't die.
* EstrogenBrigade: Although this is a RatedMForManly action movie, it has a large amount of female fans. Brad Pitt, Eric Bana Creator/BradPitt, Creator/EricBana and Orlando Bloom Creator/OrlandoBloom all have {{Shirtless Scene}}s - Pitt especially spending the whole movie in very skimpy armour.



** Sean Bean plays Odysseus here (one of the few films where he doesn't get killed) and would later play Zeus, the king of the Greek gods, in the film adaptation of ''Literature/{{Percy Jackson|AndTheOlympians}}''.

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** Sean Bean Creator/SeanBean plays Odysseus here (one of the few films where he doesn't get killed) and would later play Zeus, the king of the Greek gods, in the film adaptation of ''Literature/{{Percy Jackson|AndTheOlympians}}''.



** Diane Kruger makes things go very badly for Rose Byrne here. A couple of years later, they starred together in ''Film/WickerPark'' - where Byrne gets her own back. [[spoiler: She splits up Kruger's relationship and tries to sleep with her boyfriend in her place]]. Furthermore Byrne's character in ''Troy'' chooses to become a virgin priestess, whereas in ''Wicker Park'' [[spoiler: she's sleeping with two men]].
* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. ''Film/{{Beowulf 2007}}'' fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].

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** Diane Kruger Creator/DianeKruger makes things go very badly for Rose Byrne Creator/RoseByrne here. A couple of years later, they starred together in ''Film/WickerPark'' - where Byrne gets her own back. [[spoiler: She splits up Kruger's relationship and tries to sleep with her boyfriend in her place]]. Furthermore Byrne's character in ''Troy'' chooses to become a virgin priestess, whereas in ''Wicker Park'' [[spoiler: she's sleeping with two men]].
* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. ''Film/{{Beowulf 2007}}'' fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].
men]].



* LoveToHate: Brian Cox chews the scenery and makes Agamemnon such a charismatic villain that he's one of the favourite characters in the movie.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** Hector vs. Ajax
** Achilles finally getting shot.
* MoralEventHorizon: Practically every Greek solider, save Achilles and Odysseus, crosses it when they sack Troy in the Director's Cut.

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* LoveToHate: Brian Cox Creator/BrianCox chews the scenery and makes Agamemnon such a charismatic villain that he's one of the favourite characters in the movie.
* SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome:
** Hector vs. Ajax
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MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles finally getting shot.
or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. ''Film/{{Beowulf 2007}}'' fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].
* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Practically every Greek solider, save Achilles and Odysseus, crosses it when they sack Troy in the Director's Cut.



** Brad Pitt's accent seems a likely place. [[NarmCharm This is primarily for the sake of balance]] but the film does have a kind of ''Film/RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'' silliness to it.

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** Brad Pitt's Creator/BradPitt's accent seems a likely place. [[NarmCharm This is primarily for the sake of balance]] but the film does have a kind of ''Film/RobinHoodPrinceOfThieves'' silliness to it.



* TheScrappy: Paris is not well liked by fans. Even Orlando Bloom didn't think too highly of the character, calling him a cowardly wimp.
* TearJerker:
** For all the HamAndCheese in this movie, the look on King Priam's face when he emerges from his chambers to find [[ItWasHisSled his beloved Troy in flames]] is utterly heartbreaking.
** Hector descending to fight Achilles. We all know how well that was going to turn out for him. And it seems his family, who are watching on, also seem to know what little chance Hector stands against Achilles. The shots of his wife, Andromache, are especially heartbreaking, as she practically has a nervous breakdown during the fight, and her reaction to his death is even worse.
** Hector showing Andromache the escape tunnels beneath the city in case Troy is sacked and Hector dies. Made worse by the fact that some versions of the myth [[FateWorseThanDeath do not end well for Andromache.]]
** Hector's face in every single scene. Man knows they're on a slippery slope to hell five minutes into the film but he can't DO anything about it (without dooming Paris) and that realization makes his entire performance just heartbreaking.
** Priam asking for his son Hector's body back, especially this line:
--->'''Priam:''' "You're still my enemy tonight. But even enemies can show respect."
** There's also his line "How many cousins have you killed? How many sons and fathers and brothers and husbands? How many brave Achilles?" Peter O'Toole's delivery is just heartbreaking to say the least. After this speech, Achilles breaks down and sobs over the body, clearly [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realising the extent of his actions]].
** Helen being caught by Hector, almost about to give herself over to the Greeks. She knows it means certain death for her and it's unlikely to stop the war. But her guilt is catching up with her after having witnessed the funerals for all the dead soldiers.
--> "They're dead because I'm here."

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* TheScrappy: Paris is not well liked by fans. Even Orlando Bloom Creator/OrlandoBloom didn't think too highly of the character, calling him a cowardly wimp.
* TearJerker:
** For all the HamAndCheese in this movie, the look on King Priam's face when he emerges from his chambers to find [[ItWasHisSled his beloved Troy in flames]] is utterly heartbreaking.
** Hector descending to fight Achilles. We all know how well that was going to turn out for him. And it seems his family, who are watching on, also seem to know what little chance Hector stands against Achilles. The shots of his wife, Andromache, are especially heartbreaking, as she practically has a nervous breakdown during the fight, and her reaction to his death is even worse.
** Hector showing Andromache the escape tunnels beneath the city in case Troy is sacked and Hector dies. Made worse by the fact that some versions of the myth [[FateWorseThanDeath do not end well for Andromache.]]
** Hector's face in every single scene. Man knows they're on a slippery slope to hell five minutes into the film but he can't DO anything about it (without dooming Paris) and that realization makes his entire performance just heartbreaking.
** Priam asking for his son Hector's body back, especially this line:
--->'''Priam:''' "You're still my enemy tonight. But even enemies can show respect."
** There's also his line "How many cousins have you killed? How many sons and fathers and brothers and husbands? How many brave Achilles?" Peter O'Toole's delivery is just heartbreaking to say the least. After this speech, Achilles breaks down and sobs over the body, clearly [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realising the extent of his actions]].
** Helen being caught by Hector, almost about to give herself over to the Greeks. She knows it means certain death for her and it's unlikely to stop the war. But her guilt is catching up with her after having witnessed the funerals for all the dead soldiers.
--> "They're dead because I'm here."
wimp.
3rd Oct '16 12:47:01 PM rafi
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Patroclus is either a Woobie who just wants to fight for his people and [[spoiler: his death is one of the ultimate tragedies]] or an immature brat whose idiotic pride [[spoiler: got a lot of innocent people killed]].

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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
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BaseBreakingCharacter: Patroclus is either a Woobie who just wants to fight for his people and [[spoiler: his death is one of the ultimate tragedies]] or an immature brat whose idiotic pride [[spoiler: got a lot of innocent people killed]].
3rd Oct '16 12:35:28 PM JulianLapostat
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** There's also the reduction of the siege from ten years to a number of weeks or months. Some claim TheyChangedItNowItSucks and wonder why they'd even adapt the story if the ten year siege was going to be shortened. Others argue that there would be no way to properly make a ten year war work in a film - and that the gist of the story is intact.

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** There's also the reduction of the siege from ten years to a number of weeks or months. Some claim TheyChangedItNowItSucks and wonder why they'd even adapt the story if the ten year siege was going to be shortened. Others argue that there would be no way to properly make a ten year war work in a film - and that the gist of the story is intact. They also point out that ''Literature/TheIliad'' did not actually depict all ten years either. The Iliad shows the period of AchillesInHisTent, then Hector's death and funeral. A period of few weeks, which ends up being the middle-act of the film, with the opening scene and finale borrowed from events mentioned second hand or in later epics.
2nd Oct '16 10:48:36 AM fearlessnikki
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* BaseBreakingCharacter:
** Patroclus is either a Woobie who just wants to fight for his people and [[spoiler: his death is one of the ultimate tragedies]] or an immature brat whose idiotic pride [[spoiler: got a lot of innocent people killed]].



* BrokenBase: On whether Helen deserves sympathy or not. Those who say she doesn't point out that she started a war and gets away scot-free, while showing minimal guilt. Those who think she does deserve sympathy point to her attempt to give herself back to the Greeks, and the look between her and Hector before he goes to fight Achilles - where she is clearly sorry for what she's done. Other characters point out that Helen's elopement was merely an excuse for the Greeks to invade - and that Agamemnon outright says he only wishes to conquer Troy, regardless of Helen. It's up to the viewer whether this is CharacterShilling or not.

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* BrokenBase: BrokenBase:
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On whether Helen deserves sympathy or not. Those who say she doesn't point out that she started a war and gets away scot-free, while showing minimal guilt. Those who think she does deserve sympathy point to her attempt to give herself back to the Greeks, and the look between her and Hector before he goes to fight Achilles - where she is clearly sorry for what she's done. Other characters point out that Helen's elopement was merely an excuse for the Greeks to invade - and that Agamemnon outright says he only wishes to conquer Troy, regardless of Helen. It's up to the viewer whether this is CharacterShilling or not.not.
** There's also the reduction of the siege from ten years to a number of weeks or months. Some claim TheyChangedItNowItSucks and wonder why they'd even adapt the story if the ten year siege was going to be shortened. Others argue that there would be no way to properly make a ten year war work in a film - and that the gist of the story is intact.



* EnsembleDarkHorse: Julian Glover as Triopas, Brian Cox as Agamemnon, John Shrapnel as Nestor, Orlando Bloom as Paris, Ken Bones as Hippasus, Julie Christie as Thetis and Nigel Terry as Archeptolemus. Notice how so few of them are Trojans. It should be an indication that something is wrong when the so-called "villains" are more memorable than most of the so-called "heroes" and none of them is even the star!

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* EnsembleDarkHorse: Julian Glover EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Ajax actually dies very early on in the movie, before it's even got to the one hour mark in the extended version. You wouldn't know it thanks to Tyler Mane making him such a MemeticBadass. He gets a lot of love for taking forever to die.
** Odysseus
as Triopas, Brian Cox as Agamemnon, John Shrapnel as Nestor, Orlando Bloom as Paris, Ken Bones as Hippasus, Julie Christie as Thetis and Nigel Terry as Archeptolemus. Notice how so few well of them are Trojans. It should be an indication course, given that something is wrong when the so-called "villains" are more memorable than most he's played by Sean Bean, in one of the so-called "heroes" roles where he's not the villain and none of them is even the star!doesn't die.



* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Priam's speech.

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* SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments: Priam's speech.speech about what Troy means to him. It makes his reaction to seeing it eventually burn all the more heartbreaking.



* LoveToHate: Brian Cox chews the scenery and makes Agamemnon such a charismatic villain that he's one of the favourite characters in the movie.



** Achilles vs. Hector.



** The Hector/Achilles fight is so overly choreographed it almost feels more like a dance scene than a duel to the death.

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** The Hector/Achilles fight is so overly choreographed it almost feels more like a dance scene than a duel to Patroclus's 'anguished' rant about why they should stay in the death.war. Mostly because Garrett Hedlund is the only one in the cast NotBotheringWithTheAccent and the resulting speech sounds ridiculous with his Minnesota accent.



** In the extended cut, there's the hilariously over the top behaviour at the funerals after the first battle. The OneWomanWail plays as several widows are dramatically MilkingTheGiantCow.
* NarmCharm: Achilles vs. Hector is clearly very heavily choreographed that it looks more like a dance in places than a fight. But is it still a kickass fight scene? Absolutely.



* OneSceneWonder: Julie Christie appears in just one scene as Thetis, and yet manages to be very memorable. It helps that Thetis is the only God to appear in the film, and it's left open whether or not she actually is one[[note]]Achilles later tells Briseis that he's seen the Gods, and Thetis spends her whole scene standing in the ocean - which could be an implication that she's the daughter of Poseidon.[[/note]]

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* OneSceneWonder: OneSceneWonder:
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Julie Christie appears in just one scene as Thetis, and yet manages to be very memorable. It helps that Thetis is the only God to appear in the film, and it's left open whether or not she actually is one[[note]]Achilles later tells Briseis that he's seen the Gods, and Thetis spends her whole scene standing in the ocean - which could be an implication that she's the daughter of Poseidon.[[/note]][[/note]]
** Nestor has very little screen time, with only one big dialogue scene, and yet John Shrapnel is very well remembered. Ditto for Julian Glover as Triopas.



** Hector descending to fight Achilles. We all know how well that was going to turn out for him.
** And it seems his family, who are watching on, also seem to know what little chance Hector stands against Achilles. The shots of his wife, Andromache, are especially heartbreaking, as she practically has a nervous breakdown during the fight, and her reaction to his death is even worse.

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** Hector descending to fight Achilles. We all know how well that was going to turn out for him.
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him. And it seems his family, who are watching on, also seem to know what little chance Hector stands against Achilles. The shots of his wife, Andromache, are especially heartbreaking, as she practically has a nervous breakdown during the fight, and her reaction to his death is even worse.



*** There's also his line "How many cousins have you killed? How many sons and fathers and brothers and husbands? How many brave Achilles?" Peter O'Toole's delivery is just heartbreaking to say the least.

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*** ** There's also his line "How many cousins have you killed? How many sons and fathers and brothers and husbands? How many brave Achilles?" Peter O'Toole's delivery is just heartbreaking to say the least.least. After this speech, Achilles breaks down and sobs over the body, clearly [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realising the extent of his actions]].
** Helen being caught by Hector, almost about to give herself over to the Greeks. She knows it means certain death for her and it's unlikely to stop the war. But her guilt is catching up with her after having witnessed the funerals for all the dead soldiers.
--> "They're dead because I'm here."



* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/BradPitt as Achilles [[BrokenBase was quite a stretch]] among audiences.
* TheWoobie:
** Patroclus, who wants so badly to fight for his brethren and [[spoiler: dies impersonating Achilles]].
** Andromache who must watch [[spoiler: as her husband is killed and their baby left fatherless]].

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* VanillaProtagonist: With so many interesting characters such as Hector, Agamemnon, Menelaus, Briseis and the numerous {{One Scene Wonder}}s, it's shocking that Helen is quite bland. Despite being the catalyst for the war in the first place, she disappears into the background in the second act. This does make sense when you consider the original vision to have her as an offscreen character - and she only ended up being featured due to ExecutiveMeddling. So in the finished film she's pretty much a LivingProp and MsFanservice - with the wit and charisma she had in mythology going to Briseis.
* WTHCastingAgency: Creator/BradPitt as Achilles [[BrokenBase was quite a stretch]] among audiences.
audiences. Garrett Hedlund as Patroclus is a close second.
* TheWoobie:
** Patroclus, who wants so badly to fight for his brethren and [[spoiler: dies impersonating Achilles]].
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TheWoobie: Andromache who must watch [[spoiler: as her husband is killed and their baby left fatherless]].fatherless]]. Things don't end well for her in the original mythology either.
13th Sep '16 5:49:26 PM MagBas
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* HateDumb: Diane Kruger had to endure rather a lot of people snarking that she wasn't believable as "the face that launched a thousand ships", despite the movie going to great lengths to point out that it's only really Menelaus who's going to war for Helen - and that the real appeal of the war is the opportunity to conquer Troy.
5th Sep '16 10:31:47 AM erforce
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* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. Film/{{Beowulf}} fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].

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* MemeticBadass: Achilles. "[[UltimateShowdownOfUltimateDestiny Who would win?]] Achilles or...?" ([[Film/ThreeHundred Leonidas]]/[[Film/{{Gladiator}} Maximus]]/Franchise/{{Superman}}/[[Website/ChuckNorrisFacts Chuck Norris]]...) Experts have even pronounced him "Str8 gangsta", unusually for the time period. Film/{{Beowulf}} ''Film/{{Beowulf 2007}}'' fans [[http://www.youtube.com/comment_servlet?all_comments=1&v=DrkguvGFnrE debate at length:]] ''"Achilles is kinda cheating with the heel thing..."'' And the answer is: [[RunningGag Achilles]].
15th Jul '16 9:16:55 PM Ithilgore
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Added DiffLines:

** Achilles stands outside Troy and screams "HECTOR!" at the top of his lungs over and over for about five straight minutes, while Hector inside the city gradually says his goodbyes to his father, brother, wife, fellow soldiers, etc, all while the audience can hear Achilles still yelling outside the walls. It's a wonder Achilles hadn't lost his voice by the time Hector finally emerged for their final battle.
18th May '16 7:03:42 AM fearlessnikki
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Given that Paris is said to be a huge womaniser, is it possible he really loves Helen? Or is he just going to drop her when he gets bored, and move onto another woman who takes his fancy?

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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
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Given that Paris is said to be a huge womaniser, is it possible he really loves Helen? Or is he just going to drop her when he gets bored, and move onto another woman who takes his fancy?fancy?
** Did Briseis only fall for Achilles out of StockholmSyndrome? Or was she genuinely impressed by him not being a total "dumb brute"? Or a third camp suggests that she may have decided to become his lover out of pragmatism - as Achilles was at least decent to her and therefore a better option than being gang raped by the other men. Another way to read their sex scene is that she may have expected she would be raped soon, and chose to give herself to Achilles as a way of making sure she at least had some choice in losing her virginity.



* DesignatedHero: Achilles is a bit of a jerk. This is mostly accurate as he spends a good deal of the book a self-centered asshole, and is only shaken out of his selfishness by the death of his dearest friend.

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* DesignatedHero: Achilles is a bit of a jerk. This is mostly accurate as he spends a good deal of the book poem a self-centered asshole, and is only shaken out of his selfishness by the death of his dearest friend.



* HarsherInHindsight: On the first day of the siege, Achilles lets Hector go free saying "it's too early in the day for killing princes". [[spoiler: He later fights Hector to the latter's death in the morning]].



* HilariousInHindsight: With Achilles' trademark finisher resembling a certain leaping assassination technique from a certain video game series and [[spoiler:at least three of the Greco-Roman gods comprising the [[{{Precursors}} First Civilization]]]], maybe Achilles was really [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed an Assassin]].

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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With Achilles' trademark finisher resembling a certain leaping assassination technique from a certain video game series and [[spoiler:at least three of the Greco-Roman gods comprising the [[{{Precursors}} First Civilization]]]], maybe Achilles was really [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed an Assassin]].


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** Diane Kruger makes things go very badly for Rose Byrne here. A couple of years later, they starred together in ''Film/WickerPark'' - where Byrne gets her own back. [[spoiler: She splits up Kruger's relationship and tries to sleep with her boyfriend in her place]]. Furthermore Byrne's character in ''Troy'' chooses to become a virgin priestess, whereas in ''Wicker Park'' [[spoiler: she's sleeping with two men]].
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