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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Some see Jimmy as a villain, others see him as Suzanne's victim. Suzanne herself can be seen as an admirably ambitious woman who is a victim of her clingy husband. She also occasionally gives the impression of being somewhat [[DumbBlonde dimwitted]], but it is implied that this is a farce to get people to underestimate her.
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** Some see Jimmy as a villain, others see him as Suzanne'svictim. victim.
** Suzanne herself can be seen as an admirably ambitious woman who is a victim of her clingyhusband. husband, Larry. Also, how bad is Larry?
** She also occasionally gives the impression of being somewhat [[DumbBlonde dimwitted]], but it is implied that this is a farce to get people to underestimate her.
** Some see Jimmy as a villain, others see him as Suzanne's
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* ValuesDissonance: While the movie portrays Suzanne as [[VillainHasAPoint having something of a point]], it's still fairly supportive of Larry's decision to essentially [[TheBabyTrap baby trap]] Suzanne. Suzanne's dislike of children and desire not to have children is portrayed as negative even though she's open with Larry about not wanting them. As society has become more supportive of being child-free, that aspect of the film hasn't aged well.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CaseyAffleck plays the victim of a sociopathic monster who survives on charm and thinks nothing of destroying everyone around her. Fifteen years later, he played Lou Ford in ''Film/TheKillerInsideMe'' who was a male Suzanne (albeit far more intelligent) without the career ambitions.
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Some see Jimmy as a villain villain, others see him as Suzanne's victim. Suzanne herself can also be seen as an admirably ambitious woman who is a victim of her clingy husband. She also occasionally gives the impression of being somewhat [[DumbBlonde dimwitted]] dimwitted]], but it is implied that this is a farce to get people to underestimate her.
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* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The use of Music/{{Donovan}}'s "Season of the Witch" during the End Credits [[spoiler:while Larry's sister Janice ice skates over the frozen lake where Suzanne's corpse resides.]]
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* IdiotPlot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus thirty years. Russel gets sixteen years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. Though it's likely justified since they're in a panic and they’re impulsive teenagers and not very bright ones at that. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death.]]
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* IdiotPlot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus thirty years. Russel gets sixteen years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. Though it's likely justified since they're in a panic and they’re impulsive teenagers and not very bright ones at that. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death.]]
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* AwardSnub: It received zero UsefulNotes/AcademyAward nominations, with Creator/NicoleKidman not being nominated for Best Actress especially glaring.
* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: The use of Donovan's "Season of the Witch" during the End Credits [[spoiler:while Larry's sister Janice ice skates over the frozen lake where Suzanne's corpse resides.]]
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CaseyAffleck plays the victim of a sociopathic monster who survives on charm and thinks nothing of destroying everyone around her. 15 years later, he played Lou Ford in ''Film/{{The Killer Inside Me}}'' who was a male Suzanne (albeit far more intelligent) without the career ambitions.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CaseyAffleck plays the victim of a sociopathic monster who survives on charm and thinks nothing of destroying everyone around her. 15 years later, he played Lou Ford in ''Film/{{The Killer Inside Me}}'' who was a male Suzanne (albeit far more intelligent) without the career ambitions.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/CaseyAffleck plays the victim of a sociopathic monster who survives on charm and thinks nothing of destroying everyone around her.15 Fifteen years later, he played Lou Ford in ''Film/{{The Killer Inside Me}}'' ''Film/TheKillerInsideMe'' who was a male Suzanne (albeit far more intelligent) without the career ambitions.
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* WhatAnIdiot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus 30 years. Russel gets 16 years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. Though it’s likely justified since they’re in a panic and they’re impulsive teenagers and not very bright ones at that. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death (But see KarmaHoudini on the main page).]]]]
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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The use of Donovan's "Season of the Witch" during the End Credits [[spoiler:while Larry's sister Janice ice skates over the frozen lake where Suzanne's corpse resides.]]
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** Though not exactly unknown in Hollywood at the time, Creator/KurtwoodSmith (who plays Suzanne's father) would soon become popularly known for his iconic role of Red Foreman in "TV/That70sShow".
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** Though not exactly unknown in Hollywood at the time, Creator/KurtwoodSmith (who plays Suzanne's father) would soon become popularly known for his iconic role of Red Foreman in "TV/That70sShow".''Series/That70sShow''.
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* WhatAnIdiot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus 30 years. Russel gets 16 years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. Though it’s likely justified since they’re in a panic and they’re impulsive teenagers.teenagers and not very bright ones at that. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death (But see KarmaHoudini on the main page).]]
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* WhatAnIdiot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus 30 years. Russel gets 16 years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. Though it’s likely justified since they’re in a panic and they’re impulsive teenagers. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death (But see KarmaHoudini on the main page).]]
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* MagnificentBitch: Again, Suzanne.
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* CastingGag[=/=]HypotheticalCasting: In the novel, Suzanne Stone Maretto states she would like to see "that actress that just got married to Creator/TomCruise in real life" play her in a movie about this. Bonus point for the actress in question [[WhatCouldHaveBeen not even being the first choice for the role of Suzanne]] - that one was Creator/MegRyan.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Casey Affleck plays the victim of a sociopathic monster who survives on charm and thinks nothing of destroying everyone around her. 15 years later, he played Lou Ford in ''Film/{{The Killer Inside Me}}'' who was a male Suzanne without the career ambitions.
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* CastingGag[=/=]HypotheticalCasting: In the novel, Suzanne Stone Maretto states she would like to see "that actress that just got married to Creator/TomCruise in real life" play her in a movie about this. Bonus point for the actress in question [[WhatCouldHaveBeen not even being the first choice for the role of Suzanne]] - that was Creator/MegRyan.
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* WhatAnIdiot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus 30 years. Russel gets 16 years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death (But see KarmaHoudini on the main page).]]
* WhatAnIdiot: The second half of the movie might as well be called ''The Dumbass Conspiracy''. [[spoiler:Jimmy doesn't even clean Larry's brains off of his shoes, which gets him life plus 30 years. Russel gets 16 years for leaving clamshells from his fishing job all over the Maretto house. And of course Suzanne blabs in a public mall about orchestrating Larry's death (But see KarmaHoudini on the main page).]]
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* RetroactiveRecognition: Joaquin Phoenix and Casey Affleck in his first big role.
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* CompleteMonster: Suzanne Stone.
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