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!!The musical:
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-->Evan: Okay, thanks, got it!
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!!The movie:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
** Tracy's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is. It's possible this is intentional, considering Evie is played by the actress who was Tracy in real life - and may have wanted her to seem somewhat sympathetic.
* MemeticMutation: "No bra, no panties!"
** "Shake it don't break it, bitch!"
* LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.
* RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was the film debut of Music/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
** Nikki Reed would be more recognisable these days for ''Film/LordsOfDogtown'', ''{{Literature/Twilight}}'', ''Series/TheOC'' and ''Series/SleepyHollow''.
* {{Squick}}: The threesome that almost happened between Tracy, Evie, and Luke. Especially with the fact that the two girls are ''minors''.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite the fact that the film is about teenage rebellion and the poster could be misinterpreted as something much tamer, it is not actually aimed at teenagers. Roger Ebert even noted this in his review, saying it earned its R-rating.
!!The series:
* FridgeHorror: Ivy tells detectives that Mark White won't rape Phoebe because "everything has to be proper, and proper is sixteen", but Ivy was only thirteen when she was abducted. That would mean he kidnapped Ivy, imprisoned her, and just waited three years until she was (in his mind) old enough to rape. He's already horrifying but that adds a whole new layer to it.
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!!The movie:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
** Tracy's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is. It's possible this is intentional, considering Evie is played by the actress who was Tracy in real life - and may have wanted her to seem somewhat sympathetic.
* MemeticMutation: "No bra, no panties!"
** "Shake it don't break it, bitch!"
* LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.
* RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was the film debut of Music/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
** Nikki Reed would be more recognisable these days for ''Film/LordsOfDogtown'', ''{{Literature/Twilight}}'', ''Series/TheOC'' and ''Series/SleepyHollow''.
* {{Squick}}: The threesome that almost happened between Tracy, Evie, and Luke. Especially with the fact that the two girls are ''minors''.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite the fact that the film is about teenage rebellion and the poster could be misinterpreted as something much tamer, it is not actually aimed at teenagers. Roger Ebert even noted this in his review, saying it earned its R-rating.
!!The series:
* FridgeHorror: Ivy tells detectives that Mark White won't rape Phoebe because "everything has to be proper, and proper is sixteen", but Ivy was only thirteen when she was abducted. That would mean he kidnapped Ivy, imprisoned her, and just waited three years until she was (in his mind) old enough to rape. He's already horrifying but that adds a whole new layer to it.
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-->Evan: Okay, thanks, got it!
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!!The movie:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
** Tracy's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is. It's possible this is intentional, considering Evie is played by the actress who was Tracy in real life - and may have wanted her to seem somewhat sympathetic.
* MemeticMutation: "No bra, no panties!"
** "Shake it don't break it, bitch!"
* LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.
* RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was the film debut of Music/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
** Nikki Reed would be more recognisable these days for ''Film/LordsOfDogtown'', ''{{Literature/Twilight}}'', ''Series/TheOC'' and ''Series/SleepyHollow''.
* {{Squick}}: The threesome that almost happened between Tracy, Evie, and Luke. Especially with the fact that the two girls are ''minors''.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite the fact that the film is about teenage rebellion and the poster could be misinterpreted as something much tamer, it is not actually aimed at teenagers. Roger Ebert even noted this in his review, saying it earned its R-rating.
!!The series:
* FridgeHorror: Ivy tells detectives that Mark White won't rape Phoebe because "everything has to be proper, and proper is sixteen", but Ivy was only thirteen when she was abducted. That would mean he kidnapped Ivy, imprisoned her, and just waited three years until she was (in his mind) old enough to rape. He's already horrifying but that adds a whole new layer to it.it!
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!!The movie:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
** Tracy's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is. It's possible this is intentional, considering Evie is played by the actress who was Tracy in real life - and may have wanted her to seem somewhat sympathetic.
* MemeticMutation: "No bra, no panties!"
** "Shake it don't break it, bitch!"
* LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.
* RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was the film debut of Music/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
** Nikki Reed would be more recognisable these days for ''Film/LordsOfDogtown'', ''{{Literature/Twilight}}'', ''Series/TheOC'' and ''Series/SleepyHollow''.
* {{Squick}}: The threesome that almost happened between Tracy, Evie, and Luke. Especially with the fact that the two girls are ''minors''.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite the fact that the film is about teenage rebellion and the poster could be misinterpreted as something much tamer, it is not actually aimed at teenagers. Roger Ebert even noted this in his review, saying it earned its R-rating.
!!The series:
* FridgeHorror: Ivy tells detectives that Mark White won't rape Phoebe because "everything has to be proper, and proper is sixteen", but Ivy was only thirteen when she was abducted. That would mean he kidnapped Ivy, imprisoned her, and just waited three years until she was (in his mind) old enough to rape. He's already horrifying but that adds a whole new layer to it.
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That “rightfully” and a lot of other things in the entry were /way/ too biased— and also makes it seem like it’s a sure thing that his accuser was lying, when in reality it’s not known (by excluding evidence that make him seem potentially guilty). It also feels like a stretch to connect these things. If someone else feels that it DOES fit they can add it back in, I won’t change it— but I do think it should be written in a way that’s less one-sided.
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* HarsherInHindsight:
** Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and seven others. This also makes Tracey and Evie's views on black boys much harder to watch.
** The above mentioned behavior is also uncomfortable in light of Evan Rachel Wood opening up about abuse she suffered at the hands of Marilyn Manson, claiming he'd groomed her as a teenager in a similar way to how Tracy was corrupted by Evie.
** Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and seven others. This also makes Tracey and Evie's views on black boys much harder to watch.
** The above mentioned behavior is also uncomfortable in light of Evan Rachel Wood opening up about abuse she suffered at the hands of Marilyn Manson, claiming he'd groomed her as a teenager in a similar way to how Tracy was corrupted by Evie.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
** Tracey's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is.
* HarsherInHindsight: Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and seven others.
** This also makes Tracey and Evie's views on black boys much harder to watch.
** Tracey's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is.
* HarsherInHindsight: Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and seven others.
** This also makes Tracey and Evie's views on black boys much harder to watch.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternateCharacterInterpretation:
** Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
**Tracey's Tracy's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friendis.
is. It's possible this is intentional, considering Evie is played by the actress who was Tracy in real life - and may have wanted her to seem somewhat sympathetic.
*HarsherInHindsight: HarsherInHindsight:
** Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and sevenothers.
**others. This also makes Tracey and Evie's views on black boys much harder to watch. watch.
** The above mentioned behavior is also uncomfortable in light of Evan Rachel Wood opening up about abuse she suffered at the hands of Marilyn Manson, claiming he'd groomed her as a teenager in a similar way to how Tracy was corrupted by Evie.
** Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
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* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend
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** Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and seven
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** The above mentioned behavior is also uncomfortable in light of Evan Rachel Wood opening up about abuse she suffered at the hands of Marilyn Manson, claiming he'd groomed her as a teenager in a similar way to how Tracy was corrupted by Evie.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: This was the film debut of Creator/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: RetroactiveRecognition:
** This was the film debut ofCreator/VanessaHudgens; Music/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
** Nikki Reed would be more recognisable these days for ''Film/LordsOfDogtown'', ''{{Literature/Twilight}}'', ''Series/TheOC'' and ''Series/SleepyHollow''.
** This was the film debut of
** Nikki Reed would be more recognisable these days for ''Film/LordsOfDogtown'', ''{{Literature/Twilight}}'', ''Series/TheOC'' and ''Series/SleepyHollow''.
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Despite the fact that the film is about teenage rebellion and the poster could be misinterpreted as something much tamer, it is not actually aimed at teenagers. Roger Ebert even noted this in his review, saying it earned its R-rating.
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* {{Squick}}: The threesome that almost happened between Tracy, Evie, and Luke. Especially with the fact that the two girls are ''minors''.
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* MemeticMutation: "No bra, no panties!"
** "Shake it don't break it, bitch!"
** "Shake it don't break it, bitch!"
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* DesignatedVillain: Evie. While we're clearly meant to side with the Freelands, both Evie and Tracy have bad influences on each other, making it unclear who the real toxic friend is.
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Tracy turning her life for the worse is the entire point of the film though? This entry treats it like her downward spiral was an "unintentional" trait of hers, again, it's the whole point.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Tracy. [[InWithTheInCrowd In the pursuit of popularity]], she ends up throwing all of her decency, self-worth and common sense out the window. It's shown that even though she wasn't that well-liked before she started hanging out with Evie and still had personal issues then, in the end she ended up being much worse off (beforehand, she at least had good, true friends, was an honor student and respected her mother; ultimately, everyone had abandoned her, their relationship was strained and was now about to ''flunk'' the 7th grade). It almost makes one ask after seeing all that she sacrificed, "WasItReallyWorthIt?"
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** This also makes Tracey and Evie's views on black boys much harder to watch.
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* HarsherInHindsight: Tracy's behaviour
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* HarsherInHindsight: Tracy's rude, disrespectful and downright bitchy behaviour becomes even more disgusting in hindsight after Evan Rachel Wood rightfully received backlash for a tweet she made that brought up the late Kobe Bryant's 2003 sexual assault case with her outright calling him a rapist (even though the criminal charges against Kobe were dropped because his accuser refused to testify and that her undergarments had DNA samples from different men) despite the fact that he just died in a helicopter crash along with his 13-year-old daughter and seven others.
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Tracy. [[InWithTheInCrowd In the pursuit of popularity]], she ends up throwing all of her decency, self-worth and common sense out the window. It's shown that even though she wasn't that well-liked before she started hanging out with Evie and still had personal issues then, in the end she ended up being much worse off (beforehand, she at least had good, true friends, was an honor student and respected her mother; ultimately, everyone had abandoned her, their relationship was strained and was now about to ''flunk'' the 7th grade). It almost makes one ask after seeing all that she sacrificed, "WasItReallyWorthIt?"
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Tracy. [[InWithTheInCrowd In the pursuit of popularity]], she ends up throwing all of her decency, self-worth and common sense out the window. It's shown that even though she wasn't that well-liked before she started hanging out with Evie and still had personal issues then, in the end she ended up being much worse off (beforehand, she at least had good, true friends, was an honor student and respected her mother; ultimately, everyone had abandoned her, their relationship was strained and was now about to ''flunk'' the 7th grade). It almost makes one ask after seeing all that she sacrificed, "WasItReallyWorthIt?""WasItReallyWorthIt?"
!!The series:
* FridgeHorror: Ivy tells detectives that Mark White won't rape Phoebe because "everything has to be proper, and proper is sixteen", but Ivy was only thirteen when she was abducted. That would mean he kidnapped Ivy, imprisoned her, and just waited three years until she was (in his mind) old enough to rape. He's already horrifying but that adds a whole new layer to it.
!!The series:
* FridgeHorror: Ivy tells detectives that Mark White won't rape Phoebe because "everything has to be proper, and proper is sixteen", but Ivy was only thirteen when she was abducted. That would mean he kidnapped Ivy, imprisoned her, and just waited three years until she was (in his mind) old enough to rape. He's already horrifying but that adds a whole new layer to it.
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* EarWorm: Pick a song. Any song.
** Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen! It never leaves your head.
** Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen! It never leaves your head.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: This was the film debut of Creator/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: This was the film debut of Creator/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Tracy. [[InWithTheInCrowd In the pursuit of popularity]], she ends up throwing all of her decency, self-worth and common sense out the window. It's shown that even though she wasn't that well-liked before she started hanging out with Evie and still had personal issues then, in the end she ended up being much worse off (beforehand, she at least had good, true friends, was an honor student and respected her mother; ultimately, everyone had abandoned her, their relationship was strained and was now about to ''flunk'' the 7th grade). It almost makes one ask after seeing all that she sacrificed, "WasItReallyWorthIt?"
* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Tracy. [[InWithTheInCrowd In the pursuit of popularity]], she ends up throwing all of her decency, self-worth and common sense out the window. It's shown that even though she wasn't that well-liked before she started hanging out with Evie and still had personal issues then, in the end she ended up being much worse off (beforehand, she at least had good, true friends, was an honor student and respected her mother; ultimately, everyone had abandoned her, their relationship was strained and was now about to ''flunk'' the 7th grade). It almost makes one ask after seeing all that she sacrificed, "WasItReallyWorthIt?"
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* [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Crowning Moment Of Heartwarming]]: "If that's what it is"
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** "If that's what it is"
** "If that's what it is"
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Removed ZCE's that were under the wrong namespace (musical, rather than movie) to begin with.
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** Tracy
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** Evie
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* RetroactiveRecognition: This was Creator/VanessaHudgens film debut.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: This was Creator/VanessaHudgens the film debut.debut of Creator/VanessaHudgens; Working Title wound up casting her and co-star Brady Corbet the next year in the infamous [[Film/{{Thunderbirds}} live-action adaptation]] of ''Series/{{Thunderbirds}}''.
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* LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.
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* LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.Evie.
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* RetroactiveRecognition: This was Creator/VanessaHudgens film debut.
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** [[{{Victorious}} This seems to be a common trend for Ariana Grande]].
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** [[{{Victorious}} [[Series/{{Victorious}} This seems to be a common trend for Ariana Grande]].
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* {{Fanon}}: Archie/Kendra. Could be a case of PairTheSpares.
** Also, Evan/Lucy or Evcy or Goldunn. Most notable on FanFiction, you can find stories featuring them under the community "Opposite Sides of the Board."
** Also, Evan/Lucy or Evcy or Goldunn. Most notable on FanFiction, you can find stories featuring them under the community "Opposite Sides of the Board."
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* {{Fanon}}: {{Fanon}}:
** Archie/Kendra. Could be a case of PairTheSpares.
**Also, Evan/Lucy or Evcy or Goldunn. Most notable on FanFiction, you can find stories featuring them under the community "Opposite Sides of the Board."
** Archie/Kendra. Could be a case of PairTheSpares.
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* ItWasHisSled: Evan and Patrice get together.
* JerkassWoobie: Archie manipulates people and can be kind of a jerk at times, but then you remember that he's doing it so that he can win over the SpoiledSweet Kendra and that he has a terminal illness.
** Also, Tracy and Evie
* JerkassWoobie: Archie manipulates people and can be kind of a jerk at times, but then you remember that he's doing it so that he can win over the SpoiledSweet Kendra and that he has a terminal illness.
** Also, Tracy and Evie
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* ItWasHisSled: Evan and Patrice get together.
* JerkassWoobie:JerkassWoobie:
** Archie manipulates people and can be kind of a jerk at times, but then you remember that he's doing it so that he can win overthe SpoiledSweet Kendra and that he has a terminal illness.
**Also, Tracy and Tracy
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**Also, Evan/Lucy or Evcy or Goldunn. Most notable on FanFiction, you can find stories featuring them under the community "Opposite Sides of the Board."
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* Les Yay: Between Tracy and Evie.
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** Tracey's [[TheScream scream]] at the end. Was it a frustrated scream from [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone realizing how she had behaved,]] or was it a "relieved" scream, symbolizing that she was letting all the bad stuff go?
*Les Yay: LesYay: Between Tracy and Evie.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
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Thirteen the movie:
* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Most viewers tend to think that this is a straightforward story about the bad girl, Evie, corrupting the good girl, Tracy, and that Evie's guardian, Brooke, is just completely clueless when she claims that it is Tracy who is having the bad influence on Evie. But while Evie definitely seems to have problems at the beginning of the film, she still seems to become much less functional as her friendship with Tracy progresses, and it must be noticed that she and Tracy increasingly exclude Evie's other friends almost as much as they exclude Tracy's former friends. So it may be that the two are having a bad influence on each other, and that it's not all a one-way street.
* Les Yay: Between Tracy and Evie.
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** Although any {{Thirteen}} fan from Indiana can't blame her.
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** Although any {{Thirteen}} ''[=Thirteen=]'' fan from Indiana can't blame her.
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Evan [[spoiler: telling Brett off at the Dairy Queen]].
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "If that's what it is"
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* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "If that's what it is"
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Brand New You"
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: Evan [[spoiler: telling Brett off at the Dairy Queen]].
*CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments Crowning Moment Of Heartwarming]]: "If that's what it is"
*CrowningMusicOfAwesome: [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic Crowning Music Of Awesome]]: "Brand New You"
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* HoYay: The movie theater scene.
** Les Yay: Between Tracy and Evie.
** Les Yay: Between Tracy and Evie.
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** Although any 13 fan from Indiana can't blame her.
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** Although any 13 {{Thirteen}} fan from Indiana can't blame her.
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I wrote that a year or two ago. I\'m not proud of it.
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*** This troper considers it practically addictive. Due to the extensive title drop, LyricalDissonance, and weird rhythmic pattern, the chorus will stick in your head for hours after playing it once. More than that and you might just remember the verses.
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* AcceptableTargets: Hoosiers. Seriously. Everybody is crazy except for Evan, who's from New York, and Patrice who hates her home town.
** Although any 13 fan from Indiana can't blame her.
** Although any 13 fan from Indiana can't blame her.
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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: "Brand New You". They could have ended it with the '''curtain call''', but there's an extra number afterward for some reason.
* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Evan [[spoiler: telling Brett off at the Dairy Queen]].
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "If that's what it is"
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Brand New You"
* EarWorm: Pick a song. Any song.
** Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen! It never leaves your head.
*** This troper considers it practically addictive. Due to the extensive title drop, LyricalDissonance, and weird rhythmic pattern, the chorus will stick in your head for hours after playing it once. More than that and you might just remember the verses.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Charlotte.
** [[{{Victorious}} This seems to be a common trend for Ariana Grande]].
* {{Fanon}}: Archie/Kendra. Could be a case of PairTheSpares.
* ItWasHisSled: Evan and Patrice get together.
* JerkassWoobie: Archie manipulates people and can be kind of a jerk at times, but then you remember that he's doing it so that he can win over the SpoiledSweet Kendra and that he has a terminal illness.
** Also, Tracy andEvieEvie
* PeripheryDemographic: mostly averted, but college students and pre-teens have gotten into 13 too.
** Averted in that the show was intended to play both to kids experiencing puberty and to adults remembering it. However most adults found the plot to be tedious (which it sort of is) and most of the jokes only work from an adult perspective.
* TearJerker: Some of the lines in Get Me What I Need are pretty sad, when you remember Archie has a terminal illness.
-->Here's the problem, every minute, every second that I wait, might be too late...
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Archie and Patrice.
-->Brett: Yo, Brain! That guy? Not cool!
-->Evan: Okay, thanks, got it!
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Evan [[spoiler: telling Brett off at the Dairy Queen]].
* CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming: "If that's what it is"
* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: "Brand New You"
* EarWorm: Pick a song. Any song.
** Thirteen! Thirteen! Thirteen! It never leaves your head.
*** This troper considers it practically addictive. Due to the extensive title drop, LyricalDissonance, and weird rhythmic pattern, the chorus will stick in your head for hours after playing it once. More than that and you might just remember the verses.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Charlotte.
** [[{{Victorious}} This seems to be a common trend for Ariana Grande]].
* {{Fanon}}: Archie/Kendra. Could be a case of PairTheSpares.
* ItWasHisSled: Evan and Patrice get together.
* JerkassWoobie: Archie manipulates people and can be kind of a jerk at times, but then you remember that he's doing it so that he can win over the SpoiledSweet Kendra and that he has a terminal illness.
** Also, Tracy and
* PeripheryDemographic: mostly averted, but college students and pre-teens have gotten into 13 too.
** Averted in that the show was intended to play both to kids experiencing puberty and to adults remembering it. However most adults found the plot to be tedious (which it sort of is) and most of the jokes only work from an adult perspective.
* TearJerker: Some of the lines in Get Me What I Need are pretty sad, when you remember Archie has a terminal illness.
-->Here's the problem, every minute, every second that I wait, might be too late...
* UnpopularPopularCharacter: Archie and Patrice.
-->Brett: Yo, Brain! That guy? Not cool!
-->Evan: Okay, thanks, got it!
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