Follow TV Tropes

Following

History YMMV / TheWiz

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** To be fair, they are wearing yellow underwear...and they are the Yellow Winkies.

to:

** To be fair, they are wearing yellow underwear...and they are the Yellow Winkies.it is symbolic. Black people celebrating freedom from slavery? Freedom from being thought of as less than human (the troll costumes resemble blackface minstrels)?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** In some of the songs cut for the film retelling, there is [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sto2wpwbM-k the Tornado Ballet]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** At the end, the Wiz (aka failed New Jersey politician Herman Smith) reveals he lives a lonely, terrified life, and begs Dorothy and her friends not to leave:

to:

** At the end, the Wiz (aka failed New Jersey politician Herman Smith) reveals he lives a lonely, terrified fearful life, and begs Dorothy and her friends not to leave:

Added: 388

Changed: 1

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
added The Wiz to The Woobie


* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingATaxi Fails a Taxi]], who don't take black passengers. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?

to:

* FridgeLogic: Dorthy Dorothy repeatedly [[FailingATaxi Fails a Taxi]], who don't take black passengers. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?



* TheWoobie: Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.

to:

* TheWoobie: Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.helped.
** At the end, the Wiz (aka failed New Jersey politician Herman Smith) reveals he lives a lonely, terrified life, and begs Dorothy and her friends not to leave:
--->'''The Wiz:''' "''Please''…please don't…don't go. I li...I live here all alone…in terror…that someone will find out that I'm a fraud. Please…just stay with me a little while and talk. You can talk to me crazy…call me names…"

Changed: 127

Removed: 120

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
cruft


* EarWorm: "Ease on Down the Road" and "Everybody Rejoice (Brand New Day)".
** "You Can't Win" is pretty catchy too.
** No love for "Slide Some Oil to Me"?
** Or "Don't Nobody Bring Me No Bad News"?

to:

* EarWorm: Many of the songs, but "Ease on Down the Road" and Road", "Everybody Rejoice (Brand New Day)".
**
Day)", "You Can't Win" is pretty catchy too.
** No love for
Win", "Slide Some Oil to Me"?
** Or
Me" and "Don't Nobody Bring Me No Bad News"?News" are the standouts.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Or "Don't Nobody Bring Me No Bad News"?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NightmareFuel: The subway scene from the growing puppets to the living pillars.

to:

* NightmareFuel: The subway scene scene, from the growing puppets to the living pillars.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingATaxi Fails a Taxi]]. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?

to:

* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingATaxi Fails a Taxi]].Taxi]], who don't take black passengers. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingACTaxi Fails a Taxi]]. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?

to:

* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingACTaxi [[FailingATaxi Fails a Taxi]]. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingACab Fails a Cab]]. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?

to:

* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingACab [[FailingACTaxi Fails a Cab]].Taxi]]. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FridgeLogic: Dorthy repeatedly [[FailingACab Fails a Cab]]. But if everyone in Oz is black, then who do the taxis drive around?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** And also to be fair, the G rating back then didn't mean [[{{Flanderization}} what it means today]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I believe its more the other trope. It technically is a family movie.


* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Oz features hookers, an opium den, and a (mostly) clothing-optional musical number.

to:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: Oz features hookers, an opium den, and a (mostly) clothing-optional musical number.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** To be fair, they are wearing yellow underwear...and they are the Yellow Winkies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Oz features hookers, an opium den, and a (mostly) clothing-optional musical number.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The very...uninhibited celebration of the slaves upon gaining their freedom when [[ItWasHisSled Evilene is killed]]. The slaves being misshapen trolls who literally peel off their skins to reveal human bodies underneath is bizarre enough on its own, but why would they be wearing...maize-colored underwear, and why do [[ManInABikini the guys' undies look disturbingly like loincloths]]? It doesn't advance the plot, it doesn't correspond to anything in previous incarnations of ''TheWizardOfOz'', and any potential {{Fanservice}} is blunted by its utter inexplicability and the filmmakers' jaw-dropping decision to [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids insert a big underwear dance into a G-rated film]]!
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** No love for "Slide Some Oil to Me"?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** During the second season of ''{{American Idol}}'', during the movie theme week, one of the contestants sung "You Can't Win" as their choice which didn't agree with the judges. In the following elimination round, he was knocked out of the running.

to:

** During the second season of ''{{American ''Series/{{American Idol}}'', during the movie theme week, one of the contestants sung "You Can't Win" as their choice which didn't agree with the judges. In the following elimination round, he was knocked out of the running.



* TheWoobie: Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.

to:

* TheWoobie: Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* TheWoobie: Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AngstWhatAngst: Averted in the movie in that Dorothy is deeply upset to be lost in a MagicalLand, and sometimes scared to tears by Oz's darker side. The fact that her distress is listed below under {{Wangst}} makes this a good example of why this trope exists -- to quote the page: "...it isn't fun for those real children to read about people like themselves screaming in terror as their lives fall apart, so the fictional children don't."

to:

* AngstWhatAngst: Averted in the movie in that Dorothy is deeply upset to be lost in a MagicalLand, and sometimes scared to tears by Oz's darker side.MagicalLand. The fact that her distress is listed below under {{Wangst}} makes this a good example of why this trope exists -- to quote the page: "...it isn't fun for those real children to read about people like themselves screaming in terror as their lives fall apart, so the fictional children don't."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AngstWhatAngst: Averted in the movie in that Dorothy is deeply upset to be lost in a MagicalLand, and sometimes scared to tears by Oz's darker side. The fact that her distress is listed below under {{Wangst}} makes this a good example of why this trope exists -- it's not much fun to watch a hero constantly be upset for two-plus hours.

to:

* AngstWhatAngst: Averted in the movie in that Dorothy is deeply upset to be lost in a MagicalLand, and sometimes scared to tears by Oz's darker side. The fact that her distress is listed below under {{Wangst}} makes this a good example of why this trope exists -- it's not much to quote the page: "...it isn't fun to watch a hero constantly be upset for two-plus hours.those real children to read about people like themselves screaming in terror as their lives fall apart, so the fictional children don't."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* AngstWhatAngst: Averted in the movie -- Dorothy is deeply upset to be lost in a MagicalLand, and sometimes scared to tears by Oz's darker side.

to:

* AngstWhatAngst: Averted in the movie -- in that Dorothy is deeply upset to be lost in a MagicalLand, and sometimes scared to tears by Oz's darker side.side. The fact that her distress is listed below under {{Wangst}} makes this a good example of why this trope exists -- it's not much fun to watch a hero constantly be upset for two-plus hours.



* MostAnnoyingSound: "TEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEEENY..."

to:

* MostAnnoyingSound: In the movie, the Tin Man can be brought to tears by the memory of his fourth wife Teeny, or as he tends to put it, "TEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEEENY..."



* {{Wangst}}: Don't do a DrinkingGame of how many times Dorothy sobs piteously. You'll be passed out after 30 minutes.

to:

* {{Wangst}}: Don't do a DrinkingGame of how many times Dorothy sobs piteously. You'll be passed out after 30 minutes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NightmareFuel: The subway scene from the growing puppets to the living pillars.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* MostAnnoyingSound: "TEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEENY, TEEEEEEEEENY..."
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Non-existent trope


* EmotionalAbuse: the crows to the Scarecrow. They tell him that they've been dedicating themselves to giving him an education, but he's so stupid, so useless, such a failure, why doesn't he just listen to what they say? They basically use the trust he has in them to rip his self-esteem into tiny little pieces, and set the tiny little pieces on fire.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*EmotionalAbuse: the crows to the Scarecrow. They tell him that they've been dedicating themselves to giving him an education, but he's so stupid, so useless, such a failure, why doesn't he just listen to what they say? They basically use the trust he has in them to rip his self-esteem into tiny little pieces, and set the tiny little pieces on fire.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays (especially among the black community), to the point where it has become something of a {{cult classic}}. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find people that like it and defend it.

to:

* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays (especially among the black community), to the point where it has become something of a {{cult classic}}. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find people that like it and defend it.it.
* {{Wangst}}: Don't do a DrinkingGame of how many times Dorothy sobs piteously. You'll be passed out after 30 minutes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays (especially among the black community), to the point where it's become something of a {{cult classic}}. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find people that like it and defend it.

to:

* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays (especially among the black community), to the point where it's it has become something of a {{cult classic}}. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find people that like it and defend it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed more positively nowadays, particularly among the black community. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find someone that likes it and defends it.

to:

* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays, particularly nowadays (especially among the black community. community), to the point where it's become something of a {{cult classic}}. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find someone people that likes like it and defends defend it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed more positively nowadays, particularly among the black community. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find someone that likes it and defends it.

Top