History YMMV / TheWiz

1st Nov '17 6:59:45 AM MsCC93
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Scarecrow and the Cowardly Lion stand out in particular, due to the standout performances by Michael Jackson and Ted Ross respectively.
29th Oct '17 1:56:11 PM mlsmithca
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* EndingFatigue: After Evillene is killed, there's not much story left to tell, but it still takes several songs to get to the end. The screen adaptations each cut three numbers from this stretch (though Schumacher and Firestein made different choices on the second song worth removing). Made more bearable for viewers who consider at least one of the two songs that survive all versions of this stretch, "Believe in Yourself" and "Home", the musical's SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.

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* EndingFatigue: After Evillene is killed, there's not much story left to tell, but it still takes several songs to get to the end. The screen adaptations each cut three numbers from this stretch (though Schumacher and Firestein Fierstein made different choices on the second song worth removing). Made more bearable for viewers who consider at least one of the two songs that survive all versions of this stretch, "Believe in Yourself" and "Home", the musical's SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic.



* WTHCastingAgency: Diana Ross, who in her thirties seems out of place in the shoes of the much younger Dorothy despite her singing chops. Ross was initially refused the part but eventually won it after persisting in her negotiations with the producer, with her age singled out as having rendered her unconvincing in the role of an emotionally distraught young woman.
** For some Nipsey Russell as the Tin Man may also count, as his singing was not quite up to par with that of his co-stars.

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* WTHCastingAgency: WTHCastingAgency:
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Diana Ross, who in her thirties seems out of place in the shoes of the much younger Dorothy despite her singing chops. Ross was initially refused the part but eventually won it after persisting in her negotiations with the producer, with her age singled out as having rendered her unconvincing in the role of an emotionally distraught young woman.
** For some Nipsey Russell as the Tin Man may also count, Man, as his singing was not quite up to par with that of his co-stars.



** Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.

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** Arguably The Scarecrow who starts out being tortured by the crows and is similarly abused throughout the movie. Being played by a 19-year-old Michael Jackson helped.



* HePannedItNowHeSucks: Creator/RavenSymone fell victim to this when she admitted that she didn't think Shanice Williams and Elijah Kelley could compare to [[ToughActToFollow the "original" Dorothy and Scarecrow]], Diana Ross and Michael Jackson. She proceeded to receive a ton of reminders that Ross and Jackson weren't really the first people to play Dorothy and Scarecrow in ''The Wiz''.



* [[HePannedItNowHeSucks She Panned It So She Sucks]]: Creator/RavenSymone fell victim to this when she admitted that she didn't think Shanice Williams and Elijah Kelley could compare to [[ToughActToFollow the "original" Dorothy and Scarecrow]], Diana Ross and Michael Jackson. She proceeded to receive a ton of reminders that Ross and Jackson weren't really the first people to play Dorothy and Scarecrow in ''The Wiz''.
29th Oct '17 1:53:45 PM mlsmithca
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* Padding: As per the significant changes made to accommodate both Ross and the shift to a modern setting, a whole subplot of Dorothy being pressured to move out of her house and to make a living for herself on her own terms is set up purely to showcase her emotional insecurity before being whisked away to Oz, with little to no resolution after she finds her way home.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: It's terribly obvious how far out of his comfort zone Sidney Lumet was, showing no idea of how to stage musical numbers despite the songs themselves still being pretty good. The worst offender is filming "Ease on Down the Road" from ''behind'' the actors.
* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays (especially among the black community), to the point where it has become something of a {{cult classic}}. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find people that like it and defend it.

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* Padding: {{Padding}}: As per the significant changes made to accommodate both Ross and the shift to a modern setting, a whole subplot of Dorothy being pressured to move out of her house and to make a living for herself on her own terms is set up purely to showcase her emotional insecurity before being whisked away to Oz, with little to no resolution after she finds her way home.
* SpecialEffectsFailure: It's terribly obvious how far out of his comfort zone Sidney Lumet was, showing no idea of how to stage musical numbers despite the songs themselves still being pretty good. The worst offender is filming "Ease on Down the Road" from ''behind'' the actors.actors, in a wide shot with a completely static camera that creates the impression of watching a live performance from the very last row of the balcony - and on the wrong side of the stage.
* VindicatedByHistory: The film is viewed a bit more positively nowadays (especially among the black community), to the point where it has become something of a {{cult classic}}.CultClassic. Though there's still plenty of people that view it as a bad film, you're just as likely to find people that like it and defend it.
27th Oct '17 10:39:29 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: The Scarecrow and the Cowardly Lion stand out in particular, due to the standout performances by Michael Jackson and Ted Ross respectively.


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** For some Nipsey Russell as the Tin Man may also count, as his singing was not quite up to par with that of his co-stars.
14th Aug '17 4:00:47 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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Added DiffLines:

* Padding: As per the significant changes made to accommodate both Ross and the shift to a modern setting, a whole subplot of Dorothy being pressured to move out of her house and to make a living for herself on her own terms is set up purely to showcase her emotional insecurity before being whisked away to Oz, with little to no resolution after she finds her way home.
4th Apr '17 7:59:19 PM WaterBlap
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* MisaimedFandom: According to the comments section of Masterworks Broadway's [=YouTube=] upload of "A Brand New Day", some of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's supporters listened to the song again after he won the 2016 Presidential Election...even though several of the ''Wiz'' cast and crew members hate Trump, to the extent that after producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron moved on to NBC's ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}}'', they expressed hope in an interview that UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton would win the Election instead.
4th Apr '17 4:48:16 PM Anddrix
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* UnfortunateImplications: It's has pointed out by more than a few people that the decision to turn the bright and colorful land of Oz into a filthy, demilitarized ghetto for the African American adaptation of the classic story is very questionable to say the least.
4th Apr '17 4:34:04 PM dsneybuf
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* MisaimedFandom: According to the comments section of Masterworks Broadway's [=YouTube=] upload of "A Brand New Day", some of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's supporters listened to the song again after he won the 2016 Presidential Election...even though several of the ''Wiz'' cast and crew members hate Trump, to the extent that Craig Zadan and Neil Meron expressed hope while working on NBC's ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}}'' that UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton would win instead.

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* MisaimedFandom: According to the comments section of Masterworks Broadway's [=YouTube=] upload of "A Brand New Day", some of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's supporters listened to the song again after he won the 2016 Presidential Election...even though several of the ''Wiz'' cast and crew members hate Trump, to the extent that after producers Craig Zadan and Neil Meron moved on to NBC's ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}}'', they expressed hope while working on NBC's ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}}'' in an interview that UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton would win the Election instead.
30th Mar '17 10:25:06 AM dsneybuf
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* GrowingTheBeard: For NBC's attempts to bring back the live TV musical. After its previous productions of ''The Sound of Music'' and ''Peter Pan'' were largely seen as hot messes buoyed by the occasional good performance, ''The Wiz'' got strong reviews just in time for other networks to try the concept out. After Creator/{{Fox}}'s January 2016 telecast of a new ''Film/{{Grease}}'' also earned a positive reception, ''The Wiz'' might very well mark a GenreTurningPoint for live TV musicals.

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* GrowingTheBeard: For NBC's attempts to bring back the live TV musical. After its previous productions of ''The Sound of Music'' and ''Peter Pan'' were largely seen as hot messes buoyed by the occasional good performance, ''The Wiz'' got strong reviews just in time for other networks to try the concept out. After Creator/{{Fox}}'s January 2016 telecast of a new ''Film/{{Grease}}'' also earned a positive reception, ''The Wiz'' might very well mark a GenreTurningPoint for live TV musicals.
24th Mar '17 8:48:53 PM dsneybuf
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* MisaimedFandom: According to the comments section of the official [=YouTube=] upload of "A Brand New Day", some of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's supporters listened to the song again after he won the 2016 Presidential Election...even though several of the ''Wiz'' cast and crew members hate Trump, to the extent that Craig Zadan and Neil Meron expressed hope while working on NBC's ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}}'' that UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton would win instead.

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* MisaimedFandom: According to the comments section of the official Masterworks Broadway's [=YouTube=] upload of "A Brand New Day", some of UsefulNotes/DonaldTrump's supporters listened to the song again after he won the 2016 Presidential Election...even though several of the ''Wiz'' cast and crew members hate Trump, to the extent that Craig Zadan and Neil Meron expressed hope while working on NBC's ''Theatre/{{Hairspray}}'' that UsefulNotes/HillaryRodhamClinton would win instead.
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