History YMMV / TheUltimates

* FridgeLogic: The DNA-specific bullet. [[spoiler: Ulton calls this whole thing a ''crime of passion'', and he apparently only shot Scarlet Witch the moment he saw that she and Pietro were lovers. ''Yet he'd been carrying a bullet coded to her DNA around all this time?]]

* CompleteMonster: RedSkull is [[UpToEleven even WORSE]] than the regular RedSkull. Ultimate Skull is [[spoiler:the son of Captain America]], and therefore has a version of his powers. He's a killing machine, although that doesn't sum up the sick delight he takes in what he does.His list of atrocities includes: killing two hundred people, followed by skinning his own face at the age of seventeen, training terrorists and working with numerous historical monsters, including infamous mass-murderer and cannibal Idi Amin,[[WhoShotJFK shooting Kennedy]], just to send a message, and using the Cosmic Cube to force the members of A.I.M. to eat each other. And then there's the incident in the page image: he gives a woman a SadisticChoice: kill her husband with a pair of scissors or he'd kill her baby. She did it. The Red Skull then chucked the baby out a window and let his three thugs gang-rape her. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Oh, and he also stole all of the food and drinks in their house, too]]. Captain America takes him down by ramming him with a jet aircraft.

* CompleteMonster: Red Skull. The worst thing he's done is [[spoiler: beat up the woman who would become the second Wasp, gang-rape her, right after he ''threw her baby out a window and made her murder her husband with scissors in return for the promise he would not kill her baby'']]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he stole all her food and booze, too.]] He is now the page image for the [[{{Monster/Marvel}} Marvel Complete Monster page]], and justifiably so.

* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Surprise! The Iron Man Six armour! Note that this is after he found out [[spoiler: that Natasha was a spy - he found this out by her killing Jarvis - and that terrorists had invaded. He responded by whacking her with a bottle, getting very, very drunk, and launching, in his regular armor, for the space station. His next appearance is in the Iron Man Six armor, laying waste to the Crimson Dynamo robots.]]

* MagnificentBastard: Captain America will regularly perform incredible combat strategies that are calculated within seconds, and [[LampshadeHanging even stated outright]] that he seems to have "always winning" as an actual power. Of course, he will simultaneously sprout callous (from anybody else extremely arrogant sounding) JerkAss sentiments while performing them.

* AntiVillain: The Colonel, who, despite being the leader of the villainous Liberators, is arguably one of the most sympathetic characters in the entire series. His death is surprisingly respectful and almost touching.

* {{Expy}}: Ultimate Thor is somewhat reminiscent of Technoviking.

* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: Monica Chang, aka Black Widow II, taking on a Giant-Man squad after getting pinned underneath one's hand, next time we see her she is standing on on of them before leaping into the battle with the remaining troops sent against her [[spoiler: by SHIELD]].

* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: The Red Skull, of all the people, gets this in his send-off. It turns out all he wanted was to use the Cosmic Cube be go back in time, prevent Cap from freezing, and then his parents (Steve and his then sweetheart, Gail) could marry and raise him themselves (since he utterly loathed his life as a {{Tykebomb}}.]] To his credit, he knew the evils he had committed, but by then, it was too late for him.
** The Colonel too but he wasn't really a [[AntiVillain villain]]

* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Black Widow]] Arranging for the deaths of Hawkeye's family.

* CompleteMonster:
** Red Skull. The worst thing he's done is [[spoiler: beat up the woman who would become the second Wasp, gang-rape her, right after he ''threw her baby out a window and made her murder her husband with scissors in return for the promise he would not kill her baby'']]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he stole all her food and booze, too.]] He is now the page image for the [[{{Monster/Marvel}} Marvel Complete Monster page]], and justifiably so.
** Arguably, Nick Fury crosses {{Magnificent Bastard}} territory to end up here, as well.
** Herr Kleiser
** Loki
** The Crimson Dynamo, the Schizoid Man and the Abomination
** The Maker [[spoiler: aka Reed Richards]]
** Hulk arguably qualifies too. This is not the tragic hero from the 616-verse, not even a Anti-Hero. This Hulk is a mass murderer, rapist and cannibal.

* NeverLiveItDown: In the maintream MarvelUniverse, Hank Pym only hit Wasp ''once'' and he [[NotHimself wasn't really himself]] [[FreakOut at the time]]. In this continuity, Hank ''is'' a straight-up wife beater.

* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was bad enough on its own, but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stun, and helpless Wasp?'']] No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[BigNo HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either [[{{Narm}} narmy]] nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. The equally horrified look on her face, united to what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of whatever your age is. Yep, I'm talking about [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane]] too. It's ''that'' bad.

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The Red Skull ''is'' the poster boy for this series.

** Red Skull. The worst thing he's done is [[spoiler: beat up the woman who would become the second Wasp, gang-rape her, right after he ''threw her baby out a window and made her murder her husband with a blunt knife in return for the promise he would not kill her baby'']]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he stole all her food and booze, too.]] He is now the page image for the [[{{Monster/Marvel}} Marvel Complete Monster page]], and justifiably so.

* HighOctaneNightmareFuel: The Red Skull the poster boy for this series.

* NightmareFuel: The Red Skull the poster boy for this series

* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was [[UnderStatement bad enough on its own]], but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stun, and helpless Wasp?'']] No. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[BigNo HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either [[{{Narm}} narmy]] nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. The equally horrified look on her face, united to what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of whatever your age is. Yep, I'm talking about [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane]] too. It's ''that'' bad.

* AccidentalNightmareFuel: Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was [[UnderStatement bad enough on its own]], but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stun, and helpless Wasp?'']] NoJustNo. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[BigNo HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either [[{{Narm}} narmy]] nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. The equally horrified look on her face, united to what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of whatever your age is. Yep, I'm talking about [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane]] too. It's ''that'' bad.

** Red Skull. The worst thing he's done is [[spoiler: beat up the woman who would become the second Wasp, gang-rape her, right after he ''threw her baby out a window and made her murder her husband with a blunt knife in return for the promise he would not kill her baby'']]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he stole all her food and booze, too.]] He is now the page image for the [[Monster/Marvel Marvel Complete Monster page]], and justifiably so.

MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler: Black Widow]] Arranging for the deaths of Hawkeye's family.

** Red Skull. The worst thing he's done is [[spoiler: beat up the woman who would become the second Wasp, gang-rape her, right after he ''threw her baby out a window and made her murder her husband with a blunt knife in return for the promise he would not kill her baby'']]. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he stole all her food and booze, too.]]

* CharacterDerailment: There are plenty of fans who don't like the reinventions of the classic characters. Reasons include Hulk being a horny cannibal, Captain America being an asshole, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch getting involved in TwinCest, and that the majority of heroes being just plain {{Jerkass}}es.

* CharacterDerailment: There are plenty of fans who don't like the reinventions of the classic characters. Reasons include Hulk being a horny cannibal, Captain America being a much less PC hero than his "inspiration-to-all" mainstream counterpart, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch getting involved in TwinCest, and that the majority of heroes being just plain {{Jerkass}}es.

* NightmareFuel: Okay, the argument between Hank and Janet, as noted under "Never Live It Down", was [[UnderStatement bad enough on its own]], but [[spoiler: ''unleashing a whole ant colony towards a shrunken, naked, stun, and helpless Wasp?'']] NoJustNo. That's just SickAndWrong. Seriously. Janet's horrified "[[BigNo HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANK!]]" isn't either [[{{Narm}} narmy]] nor [[LargeHam hammy]], but completely [[JustifiedTrope justified]]. The equally horrified look on her face, united to what the experience must have been like (that is, ''[[FridgeHorror from her point of view]]''), is bound to take you off-guard, regardless of whatever your age is. Yep, I'm talking about [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel High Octane]] too. It's ''that'' bad.

* AdaptationDecay: There are plenty of fans who don't like the reinventions of the classic characters. Reasons include Hulk being a horny cannibal, Captain America being a much less PC hero than his "inspiration-to-all" mainstream counterpart, Quicksilver and Scarlett Witch getting involved in TwinCest, and that the majority of heroes being just plain {{Jerkass}}es.

* CompleteMonster: Red Skull. The worst thing he's done is [[spoiler: beat up the woman who would become the second Wasp, gang-rape her, right after he ''threw her baby out a window and made her murder her husband with a blunt knife in return for the promise he would not kill her baby''.]][[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking And he stole all her food and booze, too.]] Arguably, Nick Fury crosses {{Magnificent Bastard}} territory to end up here, as well.
** Are you saying that doesn't make him a CompleteMonster anyway? Sure, he's not SUPER-evil, but still... that was horrible.

* SoBadItsHorrible: There have been issues with the third volume of the series. Fans have cited writer JephLoeb with {{Flanderization}} and DidNotDoTheResearch

* StrawmanPolitical: From all sides of the bale.